80 Series driver support for next gen gpu!

[Demanufakture]

If you read down in the driver history part of the release notes you will see that the new 8x.xx driver supports nvidias next gen gpu. Any ideas on what it will be? Anyone got any news on it?

[NoWayDude]

G72 aparentely
Wheres that link on the Nvnews forums?

[Electronic Punk]

7900 Ultra, 7900 GTX and 7900 Standard, I think I heard somewhere.

[SH64]

7900U could be the one :D
512MB , 500Mhz core & 1400Mhz memroy .. dual slot design.

[shabby]

Dual slot quadro cooler maybe?

[SH64]

Dual slot quadro cooler maybe?

Hmm the Quadro cooler might not be efficent for SLI setups .. they might come up with different cooler.

[mobilenvidia]

Having a peek inside 81.84 here are some un-named GPU's, in order they appear in the driver:

C51
NV48
G72
G72GL
G70GL
G70
NV44GL
NV44

There is a 7800 GS I havn't seen before either in there now.

In the mobile section there are these:

G73M-X
NV44M
NV44MGL

Not all these will make it to production but is usually a good indication what nVidia are working on.

So will the G72 be the 7900 series or a 7200/400 series ?

There is also a G73 in the mobile section.
nVidia are basing their desktop GPU's on Mobile technology to keep the power usage down.
I wonder what this will become ?

[neon]

using some very clever tricks they learned from making power effiecient mobile parts is maybe not the same thing as basing the desktop cards on the mobiles...
designing the chips for mobiles would not be such a bad idea anyway. Making a very performance/power effecient chip for mobiles, and then using the same chip but with the power and cooling a desktop can offer could indeed result in a very high performing chip.
performance per power is the thing i.e. Intel are focusing on now. Nvidia chose to increase the effeciency with G70 while ATI focused more on clockspeed, and to me it seems nvidia chose right.

[anzak]

7900U could be the one :D
512MB , 500Mhz core & 1400Mhz memroy .. dual slot design.

No way! A G70 on 90nm shouldn't have any trouble doing 550mhz or maybe even 600mhz. Even at those speeds I dunno if a dual slot cooler will be needed.

[SH64]

No way! A G70 on 90nm shouldn't have any trouble doing 550mhz or maybe even 600mhz. Even at those speeds I dunno if a dual slot cooler will be needed.

Well i was going for the worst case scenario ;) .. of course you can expect even higher clocks & cooler chip esp with nVIDIA's new cooling tech used in the G70.

[slick]

Having a peek inside 81.84 here are some un-named GPU's, in order they appear in the driver:

C51
NV48
G72
G72GL
G70GL
G70
NV44GL
NV44

There is a 7800 GS I havn't seen before either in there now.

In the mobile section there are these:

G73M-X
NV44M
NV44MGL

Not all these will make it to production but is usually a good indication what nVidia are working on.

So will the G72 be the 7900 series or a 7200/400 series ?

There is also a G73 in the mobile section.
nVidia are basing their desktop GPU's on Mobile technology to keep the power usage down.
I wonder what this will become ?


C51 is nVidia's new integrated graphics mobo's, the GeForce 6100/nForce 410, 6100/430, and 6150/430.

[bkswaney]

I think the 9nm part will be the 7800U.
At 9nm with clocks only say 550 production should be very good.

[|MaguS|]

I think the 90nm part will be the low end cards, like the 6200 and 6600 series stuff, no replacement for the 7800GTX.

[nutball]

I think the 90nm part will be the low end cards, like the 6200 and 6600 series stuff, no replacement for the 7800GTX.

^^^^ What he said. :thumbsup:

[ToxicTaZ]

But the 90nm G72 is still high end chip! :rolleyes:

http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20051005A7033.html

"Nvidia has scheduled its G72 graphics processing unit (GPU), which will be manufactured using 90nm process technology, to be introduced in early 2006, according to sources at Taiwan graphics card makers. The G72, a 90nm version of the G70 GPU, will compete with the 90nm R-series from ATI Technologies, which will announce the launch of its long-awaited R520, RV515 and RV530 GPUs on October 5, U.S. time, indicated the sources."

[Amuro]

All I know is that nvidia has ordered some 1.26ns GDDR 3 memory from Samsung.

Check this out if you can read Chinese:
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=486092

[FraGTastiK]

1.26ns GDDR3 on green PCB hmm...

I wonder if nVIDIA is going to use them on their soon to be released 512Mb card,maybe even with higher core clocks also to beat the X1800XT.

third round seems to be interesting,nVIDIAs short term answer to X1800XT launch.

[Redeemed]

Well, from all the reviews I've read, they don't need another card to beat the X1800XT- the 7800GTX is holding its own for now.

But they still have the R580 to worry about. Might THAT be what this new card is aimed to compete with?

I'm betting that their first cards on 90nm will be low end, that way they would still have time to fine-tune their .90nm process. Then, by the time the R580 is ready to be in the mix, they will be ready with their .90nm 7900Ultra as well.

I personally think nVidia is still afraid of the GeForceFX scenerio, thus will produce ONLY low end and mainstream parts based on the 90nm first, the high end parts on that process will probably come later.

[ToxicTaZ]

All I know is that nvidia has ordered some 1.26ns GDDR 3 memory from Samsung.

Check this out if you can read Chinese:
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=486092

I have translated Chinese to English for you guys ;)

Samsung discloses -1.26ns the GDDR3 guest center, has used the highest speed except near ATi Radeon X1800XT -1.26ns GDDR3 grain, also had disclosed nVidia also has to him under decides, therefore I am very quick saw promotes to nVidia uses -1.26ns the GDDR3 grain, estimates is with pays X1800XT the weapon. uses in ATi Radeon X1800XT Samsung K4J52324QC-BJ12, its contour and my Chang? GDDR3 size differs from, because it with seals by 144 Ball FBGA which has becomes 136 Ball the FBGA edition, changed the system regulation, standard 2M x 32Bit x 8 Bank, 2.0V. BJ12 represents the speed -1.26ns, Samsung official most Gao?? 1.6GHz, compares -1. which Geforce 7800GTX needsThe 6ns standard outdoes very many, if must use, has PCB must rerevise.

Moreover, in the near future in newest Forceware 81.84 brand-new G70 has decided, very has the possibility is uses -1.26ns GDDR3 grain of Geforce 7,800 series, if on -1.26GDDR3 promotes the G70 core again, believed the potency needs to surmount ATi Radeon X1800XT not to be sleepy once again.

http://www.worldlingo.com/en/websites/url_translator.html

http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/attachment.php?aid=296328

http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/attachment.php?aid=296328

[bkswaney]

hummm... maybe the 70 and 72 are nvidia's spring release cards.
They would not pull out a new line when the 7800 is still new.
I can see a faster clocked 512 meg card though.
All nvidia needs to do is slap faster memory on the 7800
and raise the core clock to around 470 or so with 1.5Ghz memory
on it to run neck and neck with the XT.
But I bet they do not. They will just release a 512 meg 7800 and ride
the GTX till spring. The performance of the 7800 and ATI's 1800XT are
so close for the most part nvidia does not need a faster card.
They may not even release a 512 meg card till the spring released G70. :p :angel:

[Treason]

hummm... maybe the 70 and 72 are nvidia's spring release cards.
They would not pull out a new line when the 7800 is still new.
I can see a faster clocked 512 meg card though.
All nvidia needs to do is slap faster memory on the 7800
and raise the core clock to around 470 or so with 1.5Ghz memory
on it to run neck and neck with the XT.
But I bet they do not. They will just release a 512 meg 7800 and ride
the GTX till spring. The performance of the 7800 and ATI's 1800XT are
so close for the most part nvidia does not need a faster card.
They may not even release a 512 meg card till the spring released G70. :p :angel:

I agree, there is no need for nVidia to release any video card of any category in the next six months because there is no superior competition. (Well, maybe from ubiquitous X1300 sales).

[oushi.eg]

If Nv want to Kick ATI and get ATI out of market or limit it's share , I think they will Push another Version of GTX With much Higher clock just to make a lead over ATI .Nvidia lately have been Very aggressive :D

[Amuro]

I have translated Chinese to English for you guys ;)

Samsung discloses -1.26ns the GDDR3 guest center, has used the highest speed except near ATi Radeon X1800XT -1.26ns GDDR3 grain, also had disclosed nVidia also has to him under decides, therefore I am very quick saw promotes to nVidia uses -1.26ns the GDDR3 grain, estimates is with pays X1800XT the weapon. uses in ATi Radeon X1800XT Samsung K4J52324QC-BJ12, its contour and my Chang? GDDR3 size differs from, because it with seals by 144 Ball FBGA which has becomes 136 Ball the FBGA edition, changed the system regulation, standard 2M x 32Bit x 8 Bank, 2.0V. BJ12 represents the speed -1.26ns, Samsung official most Gao?? 1.6GHz, compares -1. which Geforce 7800GTX needsThe 6ns standard outdoes very many, if must use, has PCB must rerevise.

Moreover, in the near future in newest Forceware 81.84 brand-new G70 has decided, very has the possibility is uses -1.26ns GDDR3 grain of Geforce 7,800 series, if on -1.26GDDR3 promotes the G70 core again, believed the potency needs to surmount ATi Radeon X1800XT not to be sleepy once again.

http://www.worldlingo.com/en/websites/url_translator.html

http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/attachment.php?aid=296328

http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/attachment.php?aid=296328

My translator is better:

According to Samsung's disclosed order manifest, apart from ATi, nVidia has also placed order for the 1.26ns GDDR3 memory chips, therefore we expect to see nVidia release its new 1.26ns GDDR3 featuring product in the near futre, which is believed to be the weapon against the X1800XT. The size of the Samsung K4J52324QC-BJ12, which is currently used on the ATi Radeon X1800XT, is different from the more commonly used GDDR3 memory we've seen, because the packaging used has been changed to 144 Ball FBGA unlead from 136 Ball FBGA, the specs are 2M x 32Bit x 8 Bank，voltage 2.0V. BJ12 means the speed is 1.26ns，the highest Samsung official clockspeed is 1.6GHz, much higher than the 1.6ns on the Geforce 7800GTX. If this memory is to be used, the PCB will have to be modified.

In additon，there appears to be a new G70 definition in the recently released Forceware 81.84 beta driver. This could well be the 1.26ns GDDR3 Geforce 7 part. If the 1.26GDDR3 is used along with an increase in core clockspeed, it's not difficult to surpass the ATi Radeon X1800XT in performance.

[msxyz]

What about the low end market segment ? It looks like the X1300 has the numbers to spank 6200s and lower 6600s (not the GT, that's the x1600 task)

.. and unlike its bigger brothers, it's already here