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MikeC
10-11-05, 09:14 PM
Last year we had fun discussing the head-to-head benchmark results of NVIDIA's GeForce 6800 Ultra vs. ATI's Radeon X800 XT and the GeForce 6800 GT vs. Radeon X800 Pro. At that time, the high-end GPUs from NVIDIA and ATI were pretty evenly matched performance-wise.

Let's fast forward some 15 months and summarize a few results of NVIDIA's GeForce 7800 GT vs. ATI's recently announced Radeon 1800 XL.

http://www.nvnews.net/images/news/200510/7800gt_vs_x1800xl.gif

You can pick up a GeForce 7800 GT at ZipZoomfly for $329.99 while the Radeon X1800 XL will cost you around $444 at Newegg.

If you have $444 to spend, maybe you should consider the GeForce 7800 GTX.

http://www.nvnews.net/images/news/200510/7800gtx_vs_x1800xl.gif

You can pick up a GeForce 7800 GTX at ZipZoomfly for $449.

Food for thought...

bonchez
10-11-05, 09:16 PM
Agreed. Nvidia clearly pwns the rest! :)

OWA
10-11-05, 09:17 PM
Thanks for the tally Mike. I was wondering if you were going to do that again this year. :)

Jas28
10-11-05, 09:21 PM
Glad I didn't wait! Couldnt be happier with my 7800GT! :)

Sk8erian
10-11-05, 09:38 PM
I'm happy with my dual 6800 Ultra's, but with all the commotion of the 7800GTX's and the launch of the (in my opinion) weak X1800XT...I'm desiring dual 7800GTX's even more now! If ATI couldn't get a card that solidly beat the 7800GTX like they said they were making, something's not going well for the company. They had so much more time to get a sicker, nastier card out there...but they didn't...oh well.

Anyone want to donate a pair of EVGA 7800GTX KO's? :D :p


btw: That second chart can be a little misleading...the X1800XL is the competitor for the 7800GT. So by having the GTX go against the XL...obviously the GTX is going to tear it apart because the GTX is the flagship while the XL isn't. I know that the main point in putting these two against eachother in that chart was to show what the GTX can do at the SAME price as the XL. There should be a chart up there that pits the GTX against the XT...but still including how much the XT costs...just to scare people away :-)

Clay
10-11-05, 09:47 PM
Glad to see your tally report again Mike. This is more than just "food for thought" though...more like a resounding, irrefutable butt whoopin' if you ask me. :D

SH64
10-11-05, 09:50 PM
Yep for the available products from both vendors the 7800GT & 7800GTX clearly pwns!

& you can SLI them aswell ;)

slick
10-11-05, 09:56 PM
Wow. They screwed up once and they're doing it again. There's gonna be no more ATI left if they can't get their act together.

Treason
10-11-05, 10:31 PM
Wow. They screwed up once and they're doing it again. There's gonna be no more ATI left if they can't get their act together.
Hope that happens. nVidia for all walks of life! :)

Clay
10-11-05, 10:40 PM
The inevitable damage control and FUD flinging will be here before long. I don't see how anyone can argue the facts tallied above with a straight face though.

Roadhog
10-11-05, 10:42 PM
then google will make video cards :|

Stryker1
10-11-05, 10:43 PM
I would expect the X1800 XL to have trouble against a 7800 GT, but what about the X1800 XT! It wins most benchmarks against the 7800 GTX.

Rytr
10-11-05, 11:06 PM
Think the point of the last comparison was (is) that the XL is available at $440 from newegg.com and the GTX is available on-line for about the same price. Or, did I miss something?

Clay
10-11-05, 11:14 PM
Think the point of the last comparison was (is) that the XL is available at $440 from newegg.com and the GTX is available on-line for about the same price. Or, did I miss something?That seemed like a clear point to me as well. Is the X1800 XT available yet? (not according to ATI (http://www.ati.com/Products/RadeonX1K/WhereToBuy.html) at least)

If we want to compare paper tigers then why not try to get our hands on some yet-to-be-release NVIDIA hardware?

anzak
10-11-05, 11:35 PM
I agree, the X1800XL is a pretty bad deal right now. It is nice to see shops like newegg dropping it under the MSRP of $450.

I would like to see a X1800XT version though. Maybe after its released. ;)

F_L_C
10-12-05, 12:27 AM
I want to see 512MB X1800XT vs 512MB 7800GTX.

superklye
10-12-05, 12:31 AM
I want to see 512MB X1800XT vs 512MB 7800GTX.
Any reason why? The extra RAM isn't going to make the cards or games any faster. It just allows for more texture data to be stored on the card instead of it having to swap to the computer memory or HDD for the information. Most games don't even have 256MB of data, let alone enough to warrant 512MB. Most of that extra RAM would just be wasted.

All it really does is let you play games with better graphics, not better speed.

acrh2
10-12-05, 01:08 AM
Any reason why? The extra RAM isn't going to make the cards or games any faster. It just allows for more texture data to be stored on the card instead of it having to swap to the computer memory or HDD for the information. Most games don't even have 256MB of data, let alone enough to warrant 512MB. Most of that extra RAM would just be wasted.

All it really does is let you play games with better graphics, not better speed.

He probably meant to say "I'd like to see 7800gtx with 512Mb 1.26ns ram :)

superklye
10-12-05, 01:10 AM
Touche. :)

Mr_LoL
10-12-05, 01:51 AM
Any reason why? The extra RAM isn't going to make the cards or games any faster. It just allows for more texture data to be stored on the card instead of it having to swap to the computer memory or HDD for the information. Most games don't even have 256MB of data, let alone enough to warrant 512MB. Most of that extra RAM would just be wasted.

All it really does is let you play games with better graphics, not better speed.

Battlefield 2 and Fear would benefit from the extra ram.

bkswaney
10-12-05, 01:51 AM
Think the point of the last comparison was (is) that the XL is available at $440 from newegg.com and the GTX is available on-line for about the same price. Or, did I miss something?


:D :angel:


For sure .... We are talking about cards u can buy "today".
So the XT is a little faster in D3D. Even if it won 70% of the
benchmarks by say 25% if it cost 200+ more than a GTX I
would still buy a GTX.
When u are talking about the FPS these cards today put out even
the lower priced GT does a SUPER job on gameplay.
Man graphics have got so good the past 48 months even
the mid range stuff kicks @ss. "lol: :eek: :afro2:

superklye
10-12-05, 02:01 AM
Battlefield 2 and Fear would benefit from the extra ram.
Yeah, because they've got more texture data floating around, but playing the games on the highest settings is the only place you're going to notice a difference. And the game isn't really running faster, you're just getting the framerates you should get at a resolution that high.

Playing with everything set low on a 512MB card isn't going to be any faster than on a 256MB card.

F_L_C
10-12-05, 02:08 AM
He probably meant to say "I'd like to see 7800gtx with 512Mb 1.26ns ram :)

90nm too...and not G72.:)

Mr_LoL
10-12-05, 02:09 AM
Yeah, because they've got more texture data floating around, but playing the games on the highest settings is the only place you're going to notice a difference. And the game isn't really running faster, you're just getting the framerates you should get at a resolution that high.

Playing with everything set low on a 512MB card isn't going to be any faster than on a 256MB card.

Yes but I don't pay good money for a graphics card to play on low or medium settings. I am sure most people here are the same.

Fotis
10-12-05, 02:12 AM
Ati should release an X1800pro clocked 550/1200 for the 400$ segment and drop the price of the X1800XL to 300$.