dante_uk
11-13-05, 04:01 PM
Impressions running Vista Beta 2
Default Desktop style is cool, but I can't be used if you want to use any OpenGL games ( so I'm told ). I tried Quake3 and Quake4, both failed.
So I dropped back to 'Classic' style, ie win2k look.
Quake3 gives a gray screen. Ctrl-alt-del to task manger I'm able to see that it couldn't start the opengl subsystem. I deleted the config file so it could fall back to its default settings. No difference.
Quake4 crashes, no mouse after crash.
I also tried running Quake2, normally I run it at 1600x1200 OpenGL. I ran it and flashed the screen a few times then dropped to a window on the dekstop @320x200 software mode.
I also tried to run FarCry, missing dll MSVCP71.dll which is one of Microsofts standard C Runtime Libraries.
Are they aiming to release this in 2007 ?
I think the beta is being released too soon. It's no where near ready for any public(MSDN subscribers even) release.
It won't talk to normal windows networks. ( ie i couldn't find my WinXP laptop, let along the two machine I have running with Samba shares from Linux ).
I also tried installing Vista in VirtualPC 2004(an M$ product) first off it doesn't handle the virtual disks properly and you have for format NTFS first. Then the install runs fine, it looks fine too, then it finally boots into Vista problerly, with a desktop of 640x480 4bit colour!! The generic video driver doesn't handle a generic S3 type chipset, even though the install screens were higher res and higher colour depth. As a lot of software house use VirtualPC for testing products on it seems strange M$ haven't bothered doing the basics to get Vista to run.
I have virtualPC for testing, I have virtual machines running for Win98SE, Win2K, Win2003Server, Fedora Core4, Suse 9.3 & 10, Debian 3.1. All work fine, the native OS is WinXP on a laptop with 2gb memory.
So far Vista is not impressive at all, the desktop looks cool but they've changed so many little things that weren't broken, I think most people will just hit the buttons marked 'classic view' just so they can find the options they are there, hidden somewhere.
By the time Vista is released, the Linux desktop ( well KDE at least ) will be able to do all the same effects and looks just as good.
I properly try Vista again in about 6 months time, just to see if it's actually useable.
Ultimately, I'll have gone all Linux at Home long before Vista hits the streets.
My advice to anyone thinking of downloading the Vista Beta via one of the torrents available is don't bother. It's not worth the time or bandwidth. Maybe try when they reach Beta 6 or 7(I was running Beta 2).
Default Desktop style is cool, but I can't be used if you want to use any OpenGL games ( so I'm told ). I tried Quake3 and Quake4, both failed.
So I dropped back to 'Classic' style, ie win2k look.
Quake3 gives a gray screen. Ctrl-alt-del to task manger I'm able to see that it couldn't start the opengl subsystem. I deleted the config file so it could fall back to its default settings. No difference.
Quake4 crashes, no mouse after crash.
I also tried running Quake2, normally I run it at 1600x1200 OpenGL. I ran it and flashed the screen a few times then dropped to a window on the dekstop @320x200 software mode.
I also tried to run FarCry, missing dll MSVCP71.dll which is one of Microsofts standard C Runtime Libraries.
Are they aiming to release this in 2007 ?
I think the beta is being released too soon. It's no where near ready for any public(MSDN subscribers even) release.
It won't talk to normal windows networks. ( ie i couldn't find my WinXP laptop, let along the two machine I have running with Samba shares from Linux ).
I also tried installing Vista in VirtualPC 2004(an M$ product) first off it doesn't handle the virtual disks properly and you have for format NTFS first. Then the install runs fine, it looks fine too, then it finally boots into Vista problerly, with a desktop of 640x480 4bit colour!! The generic video driver doesn't handle a generic S3 type chipset, even though the install screens were higher res and higher colour depth. As a lot of software house use VirtualPC for testing products on it seems strange M$ haven't bothered doing the basics to get Vista to run.
I have virtualPC for testing, I have virtual machines running for Win98SE, Win2K, Win2003Server, Fedora Core4, Suse 9.3 & 10, Debian 3.1. All work fine, the native OS is WinXP on a laptop with 2gb memory.
So far Vista is not impressive at all, the desktop looks cool but they've changed so many little things that weren't broken, I think most people will just hit the buttons marked 'classic view' just so they can find the options they are there, hidden somewhere.
By the time Vista is released, the Linux desktop ( well KDE at least ) will be able to do all the same effects and looks just as good.
I properly try Vista again in about 6 months time, just to see if it's actually useable.
Ultimately, I'll have gone all Linux at Home long before Vista hits the streets.
My advice to anyone thinking of downloading the Vista Beta via one of the torrents available is don't bother. It's not worth the time or bandwidth. Maybe try when they reach Beta 6 or 7(I was running Beta 2).