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Bad_Boy
11-15-05, 04:28 AM
I figured one thread would be fine for all the reviews. Post em as you see em :D

Madden 06:
IGN: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/666/666658p1.html 8.0

NBA 2k6:
IGN: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/666/666970p1.html 7.8

Kameo:
GS: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/kameoelementsofpower/index.html 8.7
1UP: http://xbox360.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3145712&did=1 7.0
IGN: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/666/666667p1.html 8.4

PGR3:
1UP: http://xbox360.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3145713&did=1 10.0

COD2:
TG: http://www.totalgames.net/pma/22280 94%

Ruined
11-15-05, 04:34 AM
Looks like the sports developers really dropped the ball. Kameo & PGR3 both look to be wins though, and Condemned also from the comments in the IGN NBA 2K6 review.

Ruined
11-15-05, 04:36 AM
Kameo Gamespy 4/5
http://xbox.gamespy.com/xbox-360/kameo-elements-of-power/666575p1.html

Tony Hawk American Wasteland X360 Gamepro 4.5/5
http://www.gamepro.com/microsoft/xbox360/24917/info.shtml

Gun X360 Gamepro 4.5/5
http://www.gamepro.com/microsoft/xbox360/23699/info.shtml

Bad_Boy
11-15-05, 04:39 AM
i think it was more a time constraint. games like kameo and pgr3 probably had much more time to be worked on in development so overall they would ofcourse be more polished games. the sports titles pretty much had to be overhauled with new engines and the devs probably didnt have enough time to put in any orginal modes and features from the current gen versions. (reviewers saw that and docked points accordingly)...im sure the 2nd wave of sports titles will be much more complete.

Ruined
11-15-05, 04:43 AM
i think it was more a time constraint. games like kameo and pgr3 probably had much more time to be worked on in development so overall they would ofcourse be more polished games. the sports titles pretty much had to be overhauled with new engines and the devs probably didnt have enough time to put in any orginal modes and features from the current gen versions. (reviewers saw that and docked points accordingly)...im sure the 2nd wave of sports titles will be much more complete.

Amped 3 1up 7.0
http://www.1up.com/do/gameOverview?cId=3140432

NBA 2K6 1up 7.0
http://www.1up.com/do/gameOverview?cId=3140284

NFS:MW totalgames 78%
http://www.totalgames.net/pma/22279

wtf are sock puppets doing in amped????

edit: more

Condemned OXM 8.5

COD2 OXM 9.0

NBA Live 06 OXM 7.0

King Kong OXM 9.0

msxyz
11-15-05, 05:04 AM
What's the deal with 1up reviewers ? They gave to Kameo only 7 and to PG3 a perfect 10 ?!?

Those scores are... weird at best. I don't have played the games yet but such a disparity in evaluation (especially Kameo, see other online reviews) doesn't add credibility to the site.

Ruined
11-15-05, 11:01 AM
What's the deal with 1up reviewers ? They gave to Kameo only 7 and to PG3 a perfect 10 ?!?

Those scores are... weird at best. I don't have played the games yet but such a disparity in evaluation (especially Kameo, see other online reviews) doesn't add credibility to the site.

Yeh TBH I am doubting 1up.com myself. They have reviewed like 5 games for XBOX 360 and the only scores they have given are 7 and 10, nothing in between despite having a format where they can give 7.4, 7.6, 9.1, etc. Not to mention the guy who wrote the Kameo review basically says he thinks every game Rare has ever made is crap. If that is the case, why not pass the game onto a different reviewer that can be less biased?

msxyz
11-15-05, 02:46 PM
Good Kameo review:

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/xbox-360/xbox-360-kameo-handson-137398.php

LiquidX
11-15-05, 04:26 PM
Very mixed. Me keeping my pre-order all depends on what PDZ gets. I really expected more for a launch but every single thing from marketing to games have been lackluster so far IMO.

Mr_LoL
11-15-05, 04:35 PM
PGR3 is gonna rock but I am not spending that much money to play 1 game and no I dont like Halo.

Tyr-Sog
11-15-05, 05:02 PM
I swear, I had absolutly no disire to buy any of the next generation consoles but after reading and looking at the reviews of Kameo, im not so sure about that anymore.

msxyz
11-15-05, 05:13 PM
Eh, that's what got me into buying another console 5 years after my beloved Dreamcast.

Kameo and Gear of War

Ruined
11-16-05, 12:51 AM
COD2:
TeamXBOX 9/10
Gamepro 5/5
Gamespot 8.8/10
1up 9/10

JamesDax
11-16-05, 01:24 AM
COD2:
TeamXBOX 9/10
Gamepro 5/5
Gamespot 8.8/10
1up 9/10

Yeah, CoD2 is looking very good.

Mr. Hunt
11-16-05, 02:00 AM
Well I figured I would post in here... I finally got to play the dang thing in Best Buy today on a decent HDTV and I am still mixed about it... at first I thought the controller was alright... but I don't like the feel of the analog, I HATE the start/back button placement (kept hitting that dang button in the middle instead) and I HATED the way the shoulder buttons were (I like triggers, but the other 2 buttons felt weird for me).

Of course I just got to play CoD2 demo and Kameo...

CoD2 was alright... I controlled it better than I thought I would have (I used to play a lot of console FPS... but not much recently), and I liked how it ran smooth, but I didn't find it better than the PC version.

Kameo... the graphics are better than I thought, but still not the amazing stuff I keep reading about. But the gameplay was rather boring to me... but I am not a big fan of platformers, so that might have something to do with it.

Bad_Boy
11-16-05, 02:39 AM
PGR3
IGN: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/667/667076p1.html 8.8

NHL2k6:
IGN: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/667/667300p1.html 7.5

GUN:
IGN: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/667/667179p1.html 7.9

THAW:
IGN: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/667/667130p1.html 8.3

whats wierd is if you go here, http://xbox360.ign.com/index/reviews.html , it says 7.1 on nhl2k6, but when you click the link it says 7.5

Ruined
11-16-05, 10:56 AM
I think its pretty weak for EA and Take 2 to charge $60 for these half-baked sports games. Madden 2006 and NBA 2K6 sound like the only ones that are even starting to tap next-gen potential, and even those seem half-finished. $50 should be the max for these sports titles.

Ironically, the titles that look the most next-gen are $50!

Ruined
11-16-05, 11:00 AM
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evilchris
11-16-05, 11:01 AM
Well, EA sucks ass, that might having something to do with it.

Bad_Boy
11-17-05, 02:25 AM
somebody pointed this out over at b3d.
xbox360 titles seems to be getting alot of quality reviews overall, but they might be getting less attention because there are so many multiparty titles.

DC = 18 exclusives
PS2 = 30 exclusives
Xbox = 15 exclusives
Xbox 360 = 6 exclusives

6 is pretty low compared to the others. so i guess some people might see it as, 360 sure looks great but is coughing up X amount to get many of the same games i could get cheaper or already have currently really worth it.

msxyz
11-17-05, 08:06 AM
It's impossible to compare the Xbox360 launch with those of DC and PS2

Both japanese consoles were introduced 6-9 months before in Japan and had an horrible lineup (particulary the PS2!). By the time of their debut on the western markets they already had a decent roster of games available.

Microsoft is going to have 25+ games in a month; this is something never done before.

Honestly, I'm surprised there are so many "good" titles available, considering that the developers could play with the final hardware only since last september. It looks like the dev tools are really fabolous as some people say, at least for making some decent conversions :)

Mr_LoL
11-17-05, 10:09 AM
Anyone else here sick of Tony Hawks? I stopped playing after the third one.

AgentOtaku
11-17-05, 11:21 AM
Any reviews for Condemned or PDZ yet?

JamesDax
11-17-05, 12:22 PM
Here are all the reviews so far with scores and averages. This list was created by thegloaming982 over at TeamXbox.

Amped 3 -- 70 (average)
70 1UP

Call of Duty 2 -- 92 (average)
100 GamePro
94 TotalGames (review has been taken down for the moment for some reason)
92 Next Level Gaming
90 IGN
90 1UP
90 TeamXbox
90 OXM
88 GameSpot

Condemned -- 86 (average)
87.5 Game Informer
85 OXM

FIFA Soccer 06 -- 68 (average)
70 1UP
69 IGN
65 OXM

Gun -- 79 (average)
90 GamePro
85 Next Level Gaming
80 GameSpy
79 IGN
75 1UP
64 GameSpot

Kameo -- 82 (average)
88 TeamXbox
87 GameSpot
84 IGN
80 GameSpy
70 1UP

Madden NFL 06 -- 80 (average)
80 IGN

NBA 2K6 -- 79 (average)
85 TeamXbox
83 GameSpot
78 IGN
70 1UP

NBA Live 06 -- 72 (average)
75 1UP
70 OXM
70 GamePro

Need for Speed Most Wanted -- 81 (average)
85 1UP
80 IGN
78 TotalGames

NHL 2K6 -- 75 (average)
75 IGN

Peter Jackson’s King Kong -- 90 (average)
90 OXM

Project Gotham Racing 3 -- 90 (average)
100 1UP
90 Kotaku
88 IGN
80 GamePro

Tony Hawk’s American Wasteland -- 80 (average)
90 GamePro
83 IGN
66 GameSpot

Bad_Boy
11-17-05, 05:47 PM
It's impossible to compare the Xbox360 launch with those of DC and PS2

Both japanese consoles were introduced 6-9 months before in Japan and had an horrible lineup (particulary the PS2!). By the time of their debut on the western markets they already had a decent roster of games available.

Microsoft is going to have 25+ games in a month; this is something never done before.
my post was refering to the NA launch of each console. so your reasoning on that is kinda flawed. its not impossible to compare, it is what it is.

and 25+ games in a month has been done before. ps2 launched in NA with 29 titles. hell, the psp had 24 on the first day. xbox came pretty close with 23 on the first day.

nice try though.