3D Nature recommends against all ATI Graphics cards

[vampireuk]

http://www.3dnature.com/specs.html

3D Nature recommends against all ATI Graphics cards. They currently (December 2002) have unreliable drivers for advanced 3D Graphics use and have shown no intention of solving the issues even though it has been brought to their attention by many organizations

God bless nvidia:D

/me starts his watch...

[saturnotaku]

/me feels a chill going down his spine.

A bad wind is blowing in the air... :|

[nin_fragile14]

Well they sound like a stupid, ignorant company that gives no specific details about the problems that the game is having with ATI. This is just flame-bait.

[saturnotaku]

FYI - the software on that page is content creation/3D modeling, not a game. I've sent the company an e-mail asking for clarification of their statements. Now we wait to see if/how they respond.

[Kruno]

LMFAO!!! Does it really matter? :p

If someone decides to critique something it is best done properly with the issues at hand.

For all we know the site could have been hacked. :)

(PS: they are optimising for Intel.) :eek:

[gravioli]

Hmmmm, check that web page again. Why the heck did they just change their original comments on the spec page?

[Kruno]

Maybe they were scared of Ati? :p

[marqmajere]

pfft. Scared. Who's scared? *looks around* Seriously though. Thier drivers are unreliable and i don't want to hear "the new catalyst drivers rock" bs. The stabilty of ATI drivers compared to Nvidia drivers is apples to oranges.

[gokickrocks]

ati drivers have been reliable for ME so far...

i rather have some half ass drivers than a card that doesnt work at all (low blow to gainward gf4s and those that snapped a resistor off when trying to insert it into their epox 8rda cause of the length of the card) :angel:

but i do admit that nvidia drivers have proven to be more reliable

[vampireuk]

Originally posted by nin_fragile14
Well they sound like a stupid, ignorant company that gives no specific details about the problems that the game is having with ATI. This is just flame-bait.

why do you think I checked my watch:p

It's a harmless poke at people who love ati:POKE: :p

[AnteP]

"3D Nature has been contacted (Jan 2003) by ATI regarding problems our customers have experienced with their Graphics cards. We are working with them to identify and resolve these problems."

Seems like they never had been in contact with ATi after all...
How do they suppose ATi will fix the problem with their stupid little apps if they don't even know about them?

and btw for all we know it might just be moron programmer at 3D Nature, perhaps they "identify the problems" as "3d nature developers suck a$$" ;)

[AnteP]

And oh btw, good luck in finding a 1 GHz Pentium 2 as they recommend....... :D

[Kruno]

Originally posted by marqmajere
pfft. Scared. Who's scared? *looks around* Seriously though. Thier drivers are unreliable and i don't want to hear "the new catalyst drivers rock" bs. The stabilty of ATI drivers compared to Nvidia drivers is apples to oranges.

I quote myself:
I have had not 1 problem with Ati's drivers, but I had 1 problem with Nvidia's. Through my experiences I can argue that Ati's drivers are better than Nvidia's.
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5912&pagenumber=1

Older games also work a lot better on the R300. In Blood 2 if I played with triple buffering and vsync enabled I always had hud flickering while now with my R300 all those problems never show.

The clarity is awesome. It's 100% stable. Not 1 error or incompatibilty.
This card is a dream come true. Well worth the $800.
http://www.rage3d.net/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33653880

I can give you so many links on how much I brag about my R300 being problem free it's not even funny. :)
Through my experiences I am talking about. :)

[DBY]

Well of course Nvidias drivers will be more reliable, hell , theyve had more time to mature than the ATI ones.

I havent had one stability issue at all with any set of ATI drivers which are really still very new. Be interesting to see what problems the FX has when that is released, because this card will have problems.
;)

[lagadu]

Originally posted by AnteP
And oh btw, good luck in finding a 1 GHz Pentium 2 as they recommend....... :D

LMAO
they probably get free HW from nvidia to write the software for, or it's a publicity stunt, notice that if this hadn't happened, no one would ever talk about them, good or bad.

nice to see that they think that a geforce2 gts runs fine with their software, because you'll find nothing newer in the site :)

and like K.I.L.E.R said, in my whole vid-card life, i've had more problems with nvidia (a nv10 from hell comes to mind) and had about 0 (zero) problems with my 9700pro, i could quote him for my experiences as well :)

[vampireuk]

Well I have had no problems at all with Nvidia cards, so I figure why bother changing:p

[Megatron]

Originally posted by AnteP
Seems like they never had been in contact with ATi after all...

Yeah, sure sounds that way. Simply easier to jump on the "bad drivers from ATI" bandwagon.

[AnteP]

Originally posted by vampireuk
Well I have had no problems at all with Nvidia cards, so I figure why bother changing:p

because you want to play with 6x FSAA and 16x Aniso at 1280x1024 today right now :D

and also you don't want to have to pay 740 Euros for your card... (GeForce FX)
http://is41.introweb.nl/cgi-bin/salland.filereader?3e1af640055d852927195041604705f 0+NL/products/4836

;)

[Gar]

Originally posted by AnteP
because you want to play with 6x FSAA and 16x Aniso at 1280x1024 today right now :D

and also you don't want to have to pay 740 Euros for your card... (GeForce FX)
http://is41.introweb.nl/cgi-bin/salland.filereader?3e1af640055d852927195041604705f 0+NL/products/4836

;)

What do you mean? There is nothing wrong with paying 500.00 for a card that is going torn a new asshole 2 weeks later when the RADEON 9900 comes out. I'm going to buy the GFFX because its from Nvidia, not because I do my homework and compare price/performance and make an informed decision.

[marqmajere]

Originally posted by Megatron
Yeah, sure sounds that way. Simply easier to jump on the "bad drivers from ATI" bandwagon.

They aren't bad drivers. They just don't do what they are supposed to do.

[Kruno]

Originally posted by marqmajere
They aren't bad drivers. They just don't do what they are supposed to do.

The drivers or the people? ;) :p
You have to state which. ;)

[Gar]

Enough with this childish "my drivers are better than yours" crap. ATIs Fing drivers work and do what they are suppose to, if they didn't than the 9700 would receive a lot of bad reviews which it didn't. I dont' think you can find any "Non biased sites that say the drivers were anything near the 8500s when that was released. Fact is ATI is doing a great job with their GPUs and drivers; the new catalyst 3.0 set are DX9.0 compatible, stable and faster and are the first drivers to do so. Hence, anyone who claims that ATI has poor drivers is either some ignornat twit, someone who honestly had a ton of problems with ATI cards, or is a Nvidiot troll (*cough* Floor over at rage).

[Kruno]

/me spanks Gar:
I was joking on the above messege. :)
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?s=&postid=57942

[Gar]

Sorry, reply was meant for marqmajere

Either way that is helarious.

Me thinks Jasmin likes loosing. :D

[The Baron]

How are ATI's drivers for their pro-level cards (FireGL)?