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Elvin Presler
12-13-05, 03:34 PM
No ad server? What do you call this then?

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Translation. "We use java and cookies to spy on your visitors for you, then spam ads all through your web site in the form of annoying links that may get clicked on by accident and create popup sumary text when their mouse accidentally passes over that blocks the text on your site so your visitors can't even read what they came for anymore!"

Clay
12-13-05, 10:32 PM
Just curious, what is all the Java Scripting for here? EVERY click here want's to run Java script. Blocking it doesn't seem to break anything. EDIT: Ah, it sends me to pricegrabber for ads, and more java, for more ads, etc. Once I allow nvnews.net java to run, pricegrabber java starts to run, and if I allow pricegrabber.........Java <> Javascript...two completely different languages. No Java applets are running here. Javascript? Yes, along with 500 million other websites as you correctly stated. Whatever is going on with some of you is no doing of ours. Along with many others, I have no such popups, no junk in my cache from zedo.com, etc. What does that tell us?

Elvin Presler
12-14-05, 12:29 AM
1. That you're running popup stoppers, Java blockers, Firefox, Opera, etc. (as I am now too) or that you just haven't gotten lucky enough to hit the random "bad" banner.

2. I can assure you 100% I am spyware/adware free and clean, unless Microsoft is shipping XP CDs with it already bundled now, or magiacally I am getting infected with the most elusive, hard to detect in history, adware that only targets THIS SITE the instant I plug in my network cable from behind a hardware firewall and come directly here and nowhere else, after a completely offline, clean Windows XP install, several times now.

But hey. It must be the second choice, since you haven't gotten a popup yet.

There are 2 domains trying to run java/java script/whatever at all times here. nvnews own that if allowed to run goes straight to pricegrabber and begins running theirs which if allowed can do....? Then there is the intellitxt spy one that apparently creates the text links to ads within the text here, and if allowed to run.....?...which would lead to...?..which would fetch more from...? Get my point?

Mike said there is no ad server here. Well, whatever that means, there are at least 2 ad companies domains trying to run Java here non stop. Do you really trust them (and whoever they redirect to...and on and on...) to play nice at all times?

Clay
12-14-05, 12:46 AM
I just spent most of the past two hours going through this site and its forums in both IE 6 and Firefox 1.07 (without adblock on) and I am running no anti-popup software. I'm on this site much more than most folks so any randomness would have hit me ages ago.

I don't know what to tell you other than what you're experiencing is not reproducable. Also, it's not experienced by the overwhelming majority of the members here.

Elvin Presler
12-14-05, 01:01 AM
I hear ya. I go for days sometimes without a single popup (IE with medium level built in poup stopper only) when I visit here 4, 6, 12 times a day. But when I do get the popups, it's only here, and always the same ones and method of getting them to pop up...hijacking the entire browser so any action on it launches the popups, then from then on they just keep coming every so often until you clear the cache and cookies. I don't run any messengers or other apps that could be causing this either. Just a browser on a lean, mean Windows install.

It has to be bad, ocassional banners/scripts from one of these ad serv....companies. Anyway, I give up. I'll just put up with the bugs of a non-standard browser, a huge hosts file, and block EVERYTHING from now on. No ads, no banners, no links in text, nothing.

Clay
12-14-05, 01:15 AM
I hear ya. I go for days sometimes without a single popup (IE with medium level built in poup stopper only) when I visit here 4, 6, 12 times a day. But when I do get the popups, it's only here, and always the same ones and method of getting them to pop up...hijacking the entire browser so any action on it launches the popups, then from then on they just keep coming every so often until you clear the cache and cookies. I don't run any messengers or other apps that could be causing this either. Just a browser on a lean, mean Windows install.

It has to be bad, ocassional banners/scripts from one of these ad serv....companies. Anyway, I give up. I'll just put up with the bugs of a non-standard browser, a huge hosts file, and block EVERYTHING from now on. No ads, no banners, no links in text, nothing.
It is very strange that only you and few others are having problems. But yeah, just block what you need to and you're good to go.

DaveW
12-14-05, 04:31 PM
Just curious, what is all the Java Scripting for here?

All of vBulletin seems to run on AJAX now if you haven't noticed.

I've never seen a popup here. I block popups with Firefox, and I have a hosts file list from Spybot.

With all the inline ads its very possible that one of the ads in the cycle is doing something bad. Next time it happens try and get some more info like a netstat dump.