Peta to launch boycott of KFC

[sbp]

http://news.yahoo.com/fc?tmpl=fc&cid=34&in=world&cat=animal_rights

"People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals said Monday it is launching a boycott against KFC because of alleged animal-rights abuses by the chain of fried-chicken restaurants. The Norfolk-based animal rights group said it has tried for nearly two years to persuade KFC's parent company, Yum Brands Inc. of Louisville, Ky., to change the way it raises and slaughters chickens. PETA said that because those negotiations failed, it will launch a campaign to put public pressure on the company."

Anything for publicity and attention. http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/smilies/rolleye.gif

[netviper13]

It's not about publicity, it's about calling attention to the gross mistreatment of animals in slaughterhouses nation-wide. The conditions animals are forced to go through are truly sickening, and PETA has a damn good reason for bringing light to them.

[intercede007]

All I have to say is...

Mo' chicken fo' me!! :D

[Saint Lucifer]

Here's sort of an odd question, Netviper13... when it all comes down to it, what difference does it make how well the animals are treated when you're going to eat them, anyhow?

[thcdru2k]

i was watching howard stern and they had PETA girls strip and kiss or they would kill a bug lol.

[intercede007]

Originally posted by Saint Lucifer
Here's sort of an odd question, Netviper13... when it all comes down to it, what difference does it make how well the animals are treated when you're going to eat them, anyhow?


:clap:

Bravo!!!

[nin_fragile14]

Originally posted by Saint Lucifer
Here's sort of an odd question, Netviper13... when it all comes down to it, what difference does it make how well the animals are treated when you're going to eat them, anyhow?

When slaughtering of people is committed, it's generally more accepted if they're treated better before they die. (Prison conditions)

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by Saint Lucifer
Here's sort of an odd question, Netviper13... when it all comes down to it, what difference does it make how well the animals are treated when you're going to eat them, anyhow?

a cold statement to make, but there is truth to it.

although it is also true that excessive cruelness is pointless and unnecessary.

[marqmajere]

Originally posted by nin_fragile14
When slaughtering of people is committed, it's generally more accepted if they're treated better before they die. (Prison conditions)

That's great:) .........If we ate people.

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by marqmajere
That's great:) .........If we ate people.

yeah, contrary to what PETA and some other people think, animals don't have as much worth as people.

[netviper13]

Originally posted by Saint Lucifer
Here's sort of an odd question, Netviper13... when it all comes down to it, what difference does it make how well the animals are treated when you're going to eat them, anyhow?

Easy answer, I don't eat animals. I do it mainly for moral reasons (but that's not a debate I want to have, so I'll respect your choices if you respect mine), but also health reasons. I realize it's very possible to lead a healthy omnivorous lifestyle, but I just find it easier to lead a healthier lifestyle without consuming animals.

[Mod]

Animals have soul, thus they should call the Ghostbusters to fire them their proton ray. This would kill them very fast, if this weapons were at high power.

But the animals would not suffer much, because, as we all know, all living beings have an out of the body experience when they are about to die violently. So:

*it would capture the animal soul before it dies;
*the animal is killed while the ray keeps the sould traped;
*the body is dead and soul is released;
*everybody is happy !

:smoking2: :banghead: :D

[DaveW]

Have you ever tried shooting a baby chicken with a proton accelerator? Its not pretty....

[bigC]

boycott peta -- who cares how the chickens are raised and killed. they're food, is all. they have the right to be eaten

[netviper13]

Originally posted by bigC
they're food, is all. they have the right to be eaten

According to whom? They also have the right to die with dignity, not in pain and mental anguish.

Were it a person's death you were talking about, I can almost guarantee your answer would be different. No living creature should die in such horrible manners. Animals feel pain just as humyns do, why cause undue pain?

[netviper13]

Originally posted by madthumbs
>>Animals feel pain just as humyns do, why cause undue pain?<<

If a cow breaks a leg.. it goes about it's business.... If a man brakes his leg he wails and acts like a baby. There was a study on digestion done on cows. They were operated on, and a tube was used to replace part of the cow's intestine. A plexiglass window was put on the side of the cow. The cow was out in the field eating the same day... would a human do that?

Women are more like animals because they have a 9x higher pain threshold. ;)

Cows do still feel pain, and they also feel mental anguish. Dairy cows for instance are impregnated (using a device called a "rape-rack") once a year to keep their milk production up; their calves are immediately taken from them at birth which, according to studies, causes much mental anguish to the mother cow.

Another example is the lobster. Generally when lobsters are cooked they are boiled alive (imagine the hottest shower you've ever taken only 2-3x as hot); when a lobster is dropped in the boiling water, it madly scrambles against the sides in a futile attempt to get away from the pain/heat.

Most animals have nervous systems which are just as fully developed as those in humyns, and have better cognitive reasoning then we might generally give them credit for.

[netviper13]

Originally posted by madthumbs
I agree with what you say here, but I don't think animals feel pain the same as humans do. I cooked a lobster once.... I didn't realize what it would be like! Well, I'm not fond of Lobster anyway... but crab I like! I won't buy veal because of the inhuman means used to produce it, and I'm not a milk drinker. I'm surprised PETA isn't boycotting perdue... but how can they boycott anyway?.. aren't they vegetarian exhibitionists?

I think that some vegetarians give all the rest of us a bad name. They get this idea that by using extreme tactics they will produce social change. I think it's crap.

I consider myself an activist, but I fight with words not with stupid things like crashing a Victoria's Secrets show (although I wouldn't mind seeing one if you know what I mean ;)).

As far as the pain debate goes, I don't know if there will ever be a true answer, mainly because animals can't talk to us. We do know that both species have the same capability of feeling pain (similar nervous systems) but we don't know the differences in interpreting that pain. I think you're probably right in that they don't feel pain the same way we do, but that may be due to the fact that we have a better ability to associate pain with its cause.

[madthumbs]

In nature animals are eaten alive. In farming animals are raised somewhat secure without much fright. I've seen the videos of some abusive farmers, but it's not representative of all farms. PETA does use extreme tactics. I think they think too much with their hearts and not enough with their heads. I crave meat, and feal that eating it is a part of nature. I know vegetarians that have cats which are carnivores (exclusively eat meat). I'm against abusive farming techniques, but find that vegetarianism isn't the right solution for me. I think that a person's genetic makeup and relativity to the equator can make a difference in meat consumption. People closer to the equator tend to eat more fruits and vegetables... where artic people eat mostly meat.

[netviper13]

Originally posted by madthumbs
In nature animals are eaten alive. In farming animals are raised somewhat secure without much fright. I've seen the videos of some abusive farmers, but it's not representative of all farms. PETA does use extreme tactics. I think they think too much with their hearts and not enough with their heads. I crave meat, and feal that eating it is a part of nature. I know vegetarians that have cats which are carnivores (exclusively eat meat). I'm against abusive farming techniques, but find that vegetarianism isn't the right solution for me. I think that a person's genetic makeup and relativity to the equator can make a difference in meat consumption. People closer to the equator tend to eat more fruits and vegetables... where artic people eat mostly meat.

The farming idea is a misnomer anymore. Sure we've all read the stories about the happy farm cow with a loving master who tends to it until it dies a nice death from old age. That, unfortunately, is not how the vast majority of cows are raised. Most cows are factory farmed. Factory farms are exactly what the name implies, factories; animals are crammed into pens too small to turn around and fed food turbocharged with hormones and steroids (all of which are still in the meat people eat). A cow's last few minutes alive consist of being prodded down a chute (usually by a painful tazer/cattle-prod), and hearing the screams of other cows as they too are taken through the death march.

Slaughtering techniques are also questionable, especially ones at "kosher" meat plants. For an animal to be considered kosher, it must be conscious at the time it is killed. Now if the killing technique could instantaneously kill the animal, everything would be hunky-dory, but it doesn't. The animal is forced to suffer in much the same way as a few people who were guillotined suffered while the blade was raised again and dropped again after an unsuccessful attempt at killing.

I respect your decision to eat meat, it makes a lot of sense for a lot of people. I just don't think I could eat an animal now that I know what goes into the process. Not only that, but if I meet my ultimate goal of being vegan (no animal products like eggs or cheese) then cholesterol will not be a problem for me later in life as it is only found in animal products. I just find being vegetarian to be a much more gratifying and healthy lifestyle.

[netviper13]

Originally posted by madthumbs
Do lobsters really scream, or is it the steam coming out from the cracks in their shells?

That part is just steam coming out from their shells, but the squirming part is definitely them trying to get out of the pot.

[Kruno]

Originally posted by StealthHawk
yeah, contrary to what PETA and some other people think, animals don't have as much worth as people.

In your opinion. I am quicker to kill a human than an animal as I see people have less worth than animals. Not joking either.

[marqmajere]

The thread is about the PETA and KFC. Have you ever seen the "chickens" that KFC raise to be harvested? They are BARELY chickens. More like chicken flesh on life support.

Being a vegetarian is fine. If anything there are enough vitamins to supplement whatever need you might have. I, however, have no problems with consuming the flesh of animals (i.e. steaks, chicken, etc). Animals just eat oneanother. Humans just do it a little differently.

[UDawg]

The reason why we eat turkey, cow, chicken, fish and pigs is because they taste the best. If deer tasted better we would eat them. that is not to say they are not good tasting infact they are but the forementioned are the best tasting.

Besides PETA is a terroist group. They are perfectly willing to harm humans to save rats. They are the last refuge for burnt out communists. Look at their writings. Anti capitolist drivel they spew out. PATHETIC.

http://www.marchofcrimes.com/
They would rather children die instead of animals. They say you can test the drugs and treatments with out using animal. PHHHT!! Should we use humans instead?

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by madthumbs
I know vegetarians that have cats which are carnivores (exclusively eat meat).

not to mention that they go out and kill other animals (birds, rats, mice, and others) for sport.

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by K.I.L.E.R
In your opinion. I am quicker to kill a human than an animal as I see people have less worth than animals. Not joking either.

are you religious?