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jAkUp
12-05-05, 04:21 PM
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3145953&did=1

Interesting read... it makes you realize just how half assed some of the launch titles are. (mikec)

InqWoN1776
12-05-05, 04:36 PM
I was dissappointed in the launch titles except for CoD2.

t6_shadow
12-05-05, 05:13 PM
Nice article there thanks for pointing it out there jackup. Now I looked at those screen shots from the xbox and xbox 360. Truly the xbox screens do look close to the image quality of the 360 however I am wondering what the framerates of those xbox 1 titles are. I am seriously considering getting a 360 but I can't handle games at less than 40 frame per second (and make that about 60 for first person shooters) I mean I played half life 2 on the xbox for about 5 minutes...talk about slide show. I would rather have medicore graphics and a constant steady framerate. It would seem the that a lot of console developers will go with 30 fps and better graphics. Everyone has their own preferance but IMHO 30 is just not enough.

Edge
12-05-05, 05:26 PM
OK, while some of those I can understand, there's no way in hell that King Kong deserves to have the "straight port with no graphic improvements" label slapped on it. I mean honestly, we've had TWO threads in this forum alone talking about how much better the Xbox 360/Gamer's Edition version looked compared to the regular edition...it's ridiculous that they say "the visual improvements are minor" (http://server5.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=King_Kong_Xbox_vs_Xbox360.jpg).

Also, they have a terrible way to compare the two versions of the games. Almost none of the shots are even remotely similar, how are we supposed to see the difference in totally different lighting and environment conditions? It's like looking at the Cliffs section of Far Cry Instincts and comparing it to the carrier level of Far Cry and saying Instincts has more expansive levels.

Bad_Boy
12-05-05, 06:21 PM
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5983/media7df.jpg
that head image is funny as hell :D

kev13dd
12-05-05, 06:47 PM
Argh this article pisses me off

I don't care if 360 crashes and burns

But some of the comparisons are CRAP! First off they compare some X360 games to the PC. That's outlandish. We know for a fact that there are computer rigs out there that can defeat X360. Not to mention that PC games are in "HD" resolutions in the first place. Not only do they compare PC to X360, but they also compare some screenshots that aren't even in-game! Look at their shots for NFS:MW. No one can argue that this game doesn't look flat out fantastic. The Xbox version isn't half as good, so instead they use splitscreens and renders to compare. What a rip off

If they want to compare apples to apples then it's fine with me to see X360 come away with the crown or shame. But until they can keep it consistent, I think it's all complete crap

Why does everyone keep saying the X360 should have waited longer to launch? Technically their hardware specifications have been final for a while. It's not like if they held off releasing for 2 months the X360 would be any better. Same goes for the games. Whenever a console is first launched, the games aren't as fantastic as they could be. Regardless of when they console came out, game developers still will rush to get their precious games out to make the most amount of money. Not to mention a bunch of those titles are EA games...

K

nemecb
12-06-05, 04:32 PM
Is anyone ever going to make a sports game where the interaction with the ball is even a little bit realistic? I haven't played any recently, but all the videos I see in ads still look like crap. For instance, consider the Rams screenshot in this article where the quarterback's hand is completely out of position. That just kills the realism of these games for me. If I wanted to see that I could go back and play NBA Live 98 or whatever it is I have sitting on my shelf.(xmastong)

evilchris
12-06-05, 11:22 PM
About half are half assed imo. There are some awesome ones though, such as Kameo. To suggest Xbox can keep up with X360 is idiotic.

ENU291
12-07-05, 09:12 AM
When in the history of gaming consoles has the first batch of games really showed what that console was capable of? From what I've seen most of the titles available for the Xbox360 look to be rush jobs with sacrifices to content or graphic quality. I predict that by November of 2006 there will be no doubt that the Xbox360 is a "Nex Gen" console!

LiquidX
12-07-05, 09:25 AM
When in the history of gaming consoles has the first batch of games really showed what that console was capable of? ...

Super Nintendo and the Nintend 64 had Super Mario World and Super Mario 64which showed beyond a doubt what those systems was capable of. With Dreamcast it was even more apparent, the launch games positivley showed the power of the system and then some.

The 360 launch I think is great for those that do not have a high powerd PC and was not able to really play some of those cross platform games like COD 2,Quake 4 and NFS:MW in all there glory. However to me who have its MEH!, and I dont regret one minute that I sold it although I wish I could find one for a close friend.

t6_shadow
12-07-05, 04:40 PM
Found this thread http://www.gamespot.com/features/6140621/index.html its another comparison. Enjoy.

kev13dd
12-07-05, 05:33 PM
Found this thread http://www.gamespot.com/features/6140621/index.html its another comparison. Enjoy.

Wow, this comparison is better in my eyes, but a few of the screenshots didn't seem like the best shots to use in a comparison. But at least they kept them all on the same system for the examples...

K

CriPPleR_HD
12-07-05, 06:36 PM
That is one weak article.

King Kong for the 360 looks SOO much better then the PC/xbox/ps2 version it's not even funny. From the Fur on Kong to the Lighting/Textures. No other version comes close. As for the gamers edition? It may look as good but the frame rate is not even close to the 360 version.

Need For Speed:MW Looks much better on the 360 then it does xbox, PS2 and the PC. I have the full version of both the PC and 360 version and here is what I noticed:

360 has real HDR and much better lighting. You can tell right off the bat by looking at the sky over the BMW when you first enter the career menu or by driving under a tunnel. PC uses an extreme bloom that does not even look right. 360 has Higher Res textures + the car models look much better. On top of all that, the paint colors look more like car paint then standard red, blue etc.

Call of Duty 2 looks great on both 360 and my PC. I will give the edge to PC since I do have 4xAA and 16XAF. FPS is about the same on both.

Gun looks about equal on both PC and 360, that is because it's a direct port of a game that was developed on a PS2 Dev kit. Both PC and 360 use normal mapping and both have 4x AA.

Kameo: There is no game on the market for any platform that can match the amount of detail when displaying hundreds of NPC's on the screen. Plus the game is fun!

I tried to stay out of the "360 VS Everything" debate but some of this stuff being said is just wrong. If you are like my friend who gets 10 fps when he tried to turn on a few high settings in CoD2 then there is no reason not to consider a 360.

As for me, I have not gamed on my PC much since I got 360.(maybe one or two WoW raids) Xbox live is just FUN. Chatting with your buddy on live while working your way up the black list then inviting him to a race to test you new car upgrades gets addicting.

There are allot a people with super high-end PC's that feel threatened by the 360 for some reason or another and feel they have to to bash it. The 360 can push out visuals as impressive as your super computer... Get over it already. PC will be back on top again with Vista and DirectX 10 based graphic cards.

Sorry this post went on longer then expected. I just thought I share my impressions and thoughts of the games that I personally compared on my PC and 360.

-CriPPleR (xmassign)

Buenamos
12-07-05, 06:43 PM
Totally agree with everything you just said. I love my 360. The only thing i disagree with u is that cod2 on 360 is 8 player max online BOOOOO.

Ruined
12-07-05, 07:56 PM
Lives up to the hype:
Perfect Dark Zero
Call of Duty 2
Kameo
Project Gotham Racing 3
Condemned: Criminal Origins

Doesn't live up to the hype:
Gun
Tony Hawk American Wasteland
Virtually all of the Sports games
Quake 4
Need for Speed Most Wanted
Ridge Racer VI

That being said, considering most console launches only have 1-3 titles that "live up to the hype," and a lot of crap titles, the X360 launch is awesome. Even the titles that don't live up to the hype are mostly good games.

slick
12-07-05, 08:05 PM
Typical trivial 1up anti-MS article. That was such a load of BS, and those had to be the worst in-game shots I've ever seen (no doubt purpsely) and they were showed in re-formatted low quality crap. NBA 2k looks nothing short of amazing at 720p. Those pictures they took purposely made it look like ass, along with every other game. Hell they even used cut scenes from some of the Xbox games and compared it with real-time 360 shots!

Mr. Hunt
12-07-05, 08:41 PM
Lives up to the hype:
Perfect Dark Zero
Call of Duty 2
Kameo
Project Gotham Racing 3
Condemned: Criminal Origins

Doesn't live up to the hype:
Gun
Tony Hawk American Wasteland
Virtually all of the Sports games
Quake 4
Need for Speed Most Wanted
Ridge Racer VI

That being said, considering most console launches only have 1-3 titles that "live up to the hype," and a lot of crap titles, the X360 launch is awesome. Even the titles that don't live up to the hype are mostly good games.

I hate you... Gun is awesome, Ridge Racer 6 is awesome, and Kameo and PGR3 SUCK!

Take that :\.

H3avyM3tal
12-08-05, 07:48 AM
You know what I don't get? While Kameo surley is a nice game, and everyone said its gonna be a killer, I dont hear about it, I dont hear anyone talking about Kameo, no one is saying something about a game 'like Kameo' or stuff liek that.
Apperantly its just an average game, that everyone baught cuase they wanted to see what IT LOOKS LIKE on the xbox360...

All hype and no serious gameplay... The only thing the xbox seems good for now are the graphics, though for 1 or 2 exclusive games, everything else is crap... (except for RR, which I think is the best arcade racer :) )

evilchris
12-08-05, 01:48 PM
You know what I don't get? While Kameo surley is a nice game, and everyone said its gonna be a killer, I dont hear about it, I dont hear anyone talking about Kameo, no one is saying something about a game 'like Kameo' or stuff liek that.
Apperantly its just an average game, that everyone baught cuase they wanted to see what IT LOOKS LIKE on the xbox360...

All hype and no serious gameplay... The only thing the xbox seems good for now are the graphics, though for 1 or 2 exclusive games, everything else is crap... (except for RR, which I think is the best arcade racer :) )

Apparently it isn't just an average game. Do you have it? No? I do. It is a AAA title. I bought it because it LOOKED LIKE a fun game and turned out to exceed every expectation. There is no other game like it.

Mr. Hunt
12-08-05, 01:55 PM
Apparently it isn't just an average game. Do you have it? No? I do. It is a AAA title. I bought it because it LOOKED LIKE a fun game and turned out to exceed every expectation. There is no other game like it.

Think he was more talking about how you don't read that much on the game... I agree.. I hear some people talk about how great it is, but I am not overwhelmed with talk about it like I was with Halo, Splinter Cell, Metal Gear Solid, etc.

H3avyM3tal
12-08-05, 03:01 PM
^Thank you.

evilchris
12-08-05, 03:09 PM
Think he was more talking about how you don't read that much on the game... I agree.. I hear some people talk about how great it is, but I am not overwhelmed with talk about it like I was with Halo, Splinter Cell, Metal Gear Solid, etc.

Batman Begins didn't get much press at all but was a stellar movie. I guess getting a lot of press doesn't necessarily mean it is good and vice versa. A lot of people talk about how awesome Nsync's music is too.

Mr. Hunt
12-08-05, 03:45 PM
Batman Begins didn't get much press at all but was a stellar movie. I guess getting a lot of press doesn't necessarily mean it is good and vice versa. A lot of people talk about how awesome Nsync's music is too.

I am not talking about press... talking about word of mouth, and the word of mouth was GREAT for Batman Begins.

EDIT: And I know something that is really talked about doesn't make it good, but a lot of games that are "killer" are usually talked about more than Kameo is.

evilchris
12-08-05, 05:08 PM
Word of mouth is great for Kameo from the majority who have played it. I think a lot don't buy it because they think they are too "manly" to play a female elf and want to buy games like cOUNTERsTRIKE instead.

Mathesar
12-09-05, 10:13 AM
Give me a greak (whine) , Every one of those games 1up compares is cross platform & ported (CoD2 was a great port at least) so I dont see what the big suprise is , Try playing an Xbox360 exclusive such as Perfect Dark or especially Kameo to see what its really capable of.

Also King Kong looks VASTLY better on 360 and not just a minor upgrade graphicly.