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seeker
12-12-05, 10:52 PM
I'm going to replace a fried FX5500 card, and I noticed that Best Buy has the FX6200 on sale for $71.00. I know that it has a slightly faster clock speed, and an extra video connector, but I was wondering if there is a downside to this particular card? I know there are better, but they aren't in my budget.

Infinity666
12-12-05, 10:59 PM
the 6200 is a ok card but not for gaming, you wouldnt see much of a perfromance jump until you bought 6600gt/6800gt

johnkeel105
12-13-05, 12:39 AM
well overall speed isnt that great but shader model 2.0 is improved massively. If you want to be able to run games that have shader model 2.0 it is a better card then the fx5500

seeker
12-13-05, 04:17 PM
Since I'm being forced to replace several major components at once, I can't afford a better card, right now. Perhaps I can upgrade again soon. The FX5500 was okay, it hasn't given me any trouble on the games that I play, but it has given me a bit of problems running Linux.

Ruined
12-13-05, 10:46 PM
The 6200 murders the 5500 (5200) in every way thinkable. It's still not a really fast gaming card, but it gets the job done much, much better.

seeker
12-17-05, 12:46 AM
I bought the new card today, along with a new motherboard. I would be installing these, except I forgot one essential need...some Artic Silver. Thanks for the input.

seeker
12-19-05, 09:52 AM
Now, I'm really lost. I installed a new Gigabyte K8 Triton motherboard, and the new PNY 6200 video card, but all that I get is a black screen, not even a basic BIOS run. I have now tried 3 different motherboards of the same model, along with my old PNY FX5500, and now the PNY 6200. The cards were properly in inserted and locked down and the monitor works normally when connected to my laptop. The only thing that I can think of at this point is some kind of incompatability, but that doesn't seem as though it should happen between two major brand products. Does anyone have any ideas? Both boards are for AGP.

seeker
12-29-05, 10:48 AM
I have the system up and running now, the last problem was due to multiple power failures. However, I am having a problem with the 6200 when running some games, namely Halo and Jedi Academy...possibly more, but I haven't tried all of the games yet. With Jedi Academy, there appears to be a combination of the video freezing, along with sound loops. With Halo it was worse, but after reducing the game settings, it continued for a while with just some random shaking of the video, until it finally started acting like with JA and then crashing the computer all together. I downloaded and installed the 81.98 WHQL Nvidia driver, updating from the 77.77 driver that came with the card, but that did not help. I never had this sort of problem with my old FX5500, but then I have also replace more than that, so I'm not certain what to blame. I should be getting my RMA of the old card in a few days, so I will try that one again, to narrow down the field of possibilities. In the mean time, does anyone have any suggestions of something that might help?

Gentle
12-29-05, 06:11 PM
Motherboard GART driver for the AGP bus?

Gentle

seeker
12-30-05, 01:55 AM
I'm still trying to learn my way around this new motherboard, so I'm not certain of much yet. The motherboard Driver CD installed everything somewhat automatically. I remember a GART AGP for my old motherboard's Via chipsets, but the only thing that I find in the device manager, regarding AGP in the AGP Host to PCI bridge. I find nothing on the Gigabyte drivers page specifically for this, at this time, so I can only assume that it is up to date. There is a chipset driver, but the version number doesn't correspond with anything that I can find, and it has no date, so I do not know if it is newer or not.

Fathertime36
12-30-05, 08:58 AM
Curious...why didn't you get a nf4 mobo?, via is somewhat iff-er if you you know what I mean?!, does this model have onboard video? if so it needs to be disabled in the bios....I know, captain obvious here, but you would be surprised, people with sli mobos plugging a single card into the secondary pci-e slot instead of the primary or forgetting to plug in the supplemental power tongle etc...etc...we get all excited and over look basic stuff sometimes....the new card should be head and shoulders better then any thing from the FX nv30 generation, as I would hopefully like to look at it as the dark page in nvidia history, I think it is normal for it to take some time to learn your mobo layout, to me it is part of the fun....lol

seeker
12-30-05, 05:07 PM
I think that you misunderstood, my OLD motherboard was a Via, but the new one is a nForce 3. I might have gone to the nForce 4, but I didn't see any that were for AGP. I wouldn't mind PCIe, except that I needed more PCI slots than any of those have.

seeker
12-31-05, 03:34 AM
Thread subscription.

seeker
01-01-06, 08:00 PM
I have now tried the 77.77, 81.98 and finally, the 82.12 Forceware drivers, but the system continues to go through momentary black screens and total sytem crashes while playing any games. The only thing left that I can think of is individual game settings, but I have never had to mess with these much in the past, so what is left...is this video card defective?

wheeljack12
01-01-06, 08:46 PM
I would get wait for your RMA and test it against the one you have. Or see if there is someone close by that will let you borrow a card to test. Root out the cause of video card. BTW, here is your agp nforce 4 motherboard below. Has PCI-e too for upgradability.

http://www.biostar.com.tw/products/mainboard/board.php?name=NF4ST-A9#

seeker
01-01-06, 09:20 PM
Yes, I have been thinking about that. I do have a FX5200 that I can try. If it works okay, then I guess the 6200 is bad.

That motherboard looks interesting, except that it only has 3 PCI slots. That would handle the 3 cards that I now have, but wouldn't leave any room for expansion. However the 4 SATA slots would be nice, I only have two and have to fall back to the PATA drives.

seeker
01-03-06, 03:43 PM
I just spoke to PNY tech support about this problem, and he thought that the problem was that I have DX9.0b installed, instead of DX9.0c. So, I have downloaded an upgrade file, but the website that I used was a bit vague about a couple of extra files that they suggested to be installed along with DX. There is also hotfix and a reg file which should probably be installed also. Apparently this has something to do with the pixel shader, but even on the old DX, it was better that I thought it would be. These should probably be installed regardless, but I never like taking anything for face value. Does anyone know about these extra files?

http://articles.networktechs.com/85-p1.php

Gentle
01-03-06, 08:03 PM
I would recommend you get DirectX straight from Microsoft...

www.microsoft.com/directx

Gentle

seeker
01-03-06, 09:44 PM
I would recommend you get DirectX straight from Microsoft...

www.microsoft.com/directx

Gentle
Being that I'm on a dialup modem, it took me 2 hours to download what I have. Are you speaking of a general preference, or do you know of something specific about that website, that would make their file untrustworthy?

seeker
01-04-06, 02:54 AM
I'm having another odd problem. I can not boot into safe mode, each time I try, it just reboots. No problem in normal mode, how's that for an odd twist. The website that I downloaded DX from, wanted it, and the hotfix and reg file installed in safe mode. I really do not remember, but it isn't necessary to install DX this way...is it?

Since I couldn't load DX yet, I went ahead and installed the FX5200, just to see what happened, and Halo would not load at all, it had an error message saying that it could not initiate Direct Draw. However, Jedi Academy and Tomb Raiders, which were freezing up on the 6200, appear to be normal with this card. At this point, I think it's a tossup as to whether the problem is with DX or the 6200...maybe both.

My next step is to find a way to install DX, can I do this from the normal desktop?

seeker
01-04-06, 03:54 AM
Another smudge in the portrait of this weird creature...I was playing Kyodai a few minutes ago and the system crashed to a reboot. Something that has not happened on that game before, even though it routinely runs the cpu at a consistent 100%. Instead of finding answers, I keep getting conflicting clues, and I'm not that good of a detective.