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JPack
12-22-05, 03:02 AM
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20051222PR204.html

Clocks are 350/1000 MHz and 12 pipe. I'm not surprised at the clocks, considering it's using the ol' NV40. It's certainly not as good a deal as the PCIe GS if MSRP is the same.
zer0
12-22-05, 03:34 AM
only 350?

i want it @ 400.
joshua7
12-22-05, 08:21 AM
Who will buy this?
Airbrushkid
12-22-05, 11:18 AM
I will! And there are others.
BioHazZarD
12-22-05, 12:12 PM
I will too maybe after new year..
Tr1cK
12-22-05, 01:06 PM
If its a NV40 with 12 pipes @ 350, wouldn't that make it kinda like a NU with GDDR3? If it lists for the same price as the PCIE version then it's a rip-off. My roommates 6800GS @ 500/1.1 is as fast as a 6800 Ultra.
Athena
12-22-05, 01:30 PM
so lets looks at this.

350 X 12 pipes = 4200 fill rate

I currently have a 6800nu with the extra pipes unlocked, but the darn thing will not OC even 1Mhz. :(

300 x 16 pipes = 4800 fill rate

Oh well I guess I will have to wait untill I have money for a PCIE mobo before I can upgrade my video card.
Redphoenix
12-22-05, 02:37 PM
I currently have a 6800nu with the extra pipes unlocked, but the darn thing will not OC even 1Mhz. :(

Cant find the thread to link to, but there was a guy over at the Overclockers UK
forum that had the same problem with overclocking. He got around it by doing the following:

1) Disable the pipe and vertex shader unlocks and put the card back to stock.
2) Find the max overclock for your card in the usual way, then back off the clocks a bit for stability.
3) Reopen the disabled pipes and vertex shaders.

May not work for you, but it has worked for a couple of 6800le cards that I have installed, and seems to give a nice boost.

Give it a try, and good luck. (xmasmile)
bkswaney
12-23-05, 01:13 AM
I was reading somewhere...... http://www.theinquirer.net/ I think it was
were albatron was only clocking there 6800GS "agp" to 350
but other companies were going to 400 core with there's.

The GS "AGP" is the NV40 core and the "PCI-E" is the NV41.

So the up side might be that u can open up more pipes on the AGP card. ;) (xmassign)
LanceX
12-23-05, 02:14 AM
XFX 6800 GS AGP available on pre-order
XFX is working hard to bring you one of the first Geforce 6800 GS AGP units on the market. This card is clocked at 400MHz core, 1100MHz memory, an important 50 MHz faster than the recently announced Albatron card. Memory wise the card is 100MHz faster than Nvidia's recommended speed.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28504
bkswaney
12-23-05, 03:04 AM
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28504


Yes there it is.... Thank you! (santa2) (cheers)

I look to see the AGP GS kick @ss. I see better
than GT speeds and nice clocks coming from it. :)

But I'm happy as a kid as christmas knowing I have a 425mhz factory clocked core 6800Ultra coming for my old AGP mobo. :D :D :D
I was going to get a AGP 6800GS but I found better for only 240 bucks. "LoL" :)

It kinda sucks they are slapping freaking 1100MHz memory on the GS when that's what come on the 6800ultra.
Though I hope my ultra I have coming will reach 1250+ with the Zalman on it.
agentkay
12-23-05, 05:49 AM
I currently have a 6800nu with the extra pipes unlocked, but the darn thing will not OC even 1Mhz. :(


Here is the deal how to OC an unlocked NU. I install the driver, Coolbits, OC it to for instance 370x900. I reboot and install Rivatuner, and unlock the pipes. Reboot. I actually have to use a reg file and copy nvstrap.sys (Rivatuner unlocker driver) manually into the sys32/drivers because the Nvstrap tab never appears on this Windows install. I figured out the correct values thru my backup Windows install.

Anyway, when you start Rivatuner again, you will see that you have 16/6 pipes and when you start the hardware monitor youŽll see that the clocks are for instance the 370x900. My 12x5 max OC was 390x900, but this way I could use it also when I unlocked the pipes to 16/6. I did run into some instability recently, it acts like an overheating issue, but the card maybe 3 degrees hotter on max. load. So I might have to up vcore with Nibitor or lower the core somewhat. One of these two should cure or reduce the instablity.

EDIT: I should learn to read the full thread first. Redphoenix basically already told you how to do it. Sorry guys.
snowmanwithahat
12-24-05, 01:18 AM
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20051222PR204.html

Clocks are 350/1000 MHz and 12 pipe. I'm not surprised at the clocks, considering it's using the ol' NV40. It's certainly not as good a deal as the PCIe GS if MSRP is the same.

this is no 6800 GS, you realize that right, it's a regular 6800 with GDDR 3 memory, which makes it a little better, but not much, basically, the defining factor of a 6800 GS was the nv42 core, which isn't being used here....
bkswaney
12-24-05, 01:24 AM
this is no 6800 GS, you realize that right, it's a regular 6800 with GDDR 3 memory, which makes it a little better, but not much, basically, the defining factor of a 6800 GS was the nv42 core, which isn't being used here....



Good point. (xmassign)
LanceX
12-24-05, 07:23 PM
I really want a 6800GS AGP, but I'm not going to buy the first one that comes out. I'll wait until XFX and other OCish manufactors start pushing theirs out.
Suflex
12-25-05, 09:42 AM
NV40 has 16 pipes, so basically the 6800GS will be soft locked by the driver to its default 12, unlock those and you'll have a cheap 6800GT, moreover the mem OC chances on it will be much better than the stock GT.
rohit
12-25-05, 04:51 PM
How bout a G70-Agp?
Not gonna happen :( ???
JPack
12-26-05, 12:48 AM
this is no 6800 GS, you realize that right, it's a regular 6800 with GDDR 3 memory, which makes it a little better, but not much, basically, the defining factor of a 6800 GS was the nv42 core, which isn't being used here....
Well, obviously.

The point I'm trying to make here is that nVidia decided to coin this 350/1000 AGP card as a 6800 GS.

This seems to be the official clock as well since people are starting to get these cards from XFX at the same speeds.
http://www.xfxforce.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=2578&tstart=0
zer0
12-26-05, 01:02 AM
this is bad for agp users...
snowmanwithahat
12-27-05, 01:14 AM
How bout a G70-Agp?
Not gonna happen :( ???

no it won't happen, because these "6800 GS" aren't actually a real 6800 GS, it's an NV40 gpu, not the real 6800 GS gpu, the nv42, so since there is no native AGP Gxx core, it won't happen, unless nvidia bridges it down with the HSI bridge, but so far, it's not in the making

AGP is dead, face it, a 6800 is the best AGP card nvidia will ever have