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GitDat
12-26-05, 08:29 AM
So which would be better for achieving higher frame rates in games? A dual core P4-d 840 3.2Ghz or a P4 3.8Ghz Hyper Threading? Would it be the dual core or the higher Ghz processor that would perform better?

I'm planning on getting an ASUS P5N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard & a BFG 7800 GTX OC 512MB video card. Any recommendation on the best memory for game frame rates as well?

Thanks.

Knot3D
12-26-05, 08:47 AM
Ugh. Please go AMD, becuz they're cheaper and perform better in games !

The P4 D 840 is most expensive, is very power demanding / heating and performs worst in games in that price range of > $ 800. The P4 3.8 single
core is a slightly better choice but I still would not recommend it.

Get yourself an AMD X2 4400 for about $ 497 and if you don't have a s939
mobo you can buy that too and still spend less money than buying the expensive Pentiums. Or you could go AMD FX55 or FX57 for absulote best game performance. I'd still recommend X2 dual cores though for most ppl.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103546

I'm switching from Intel pc (see sig) to AMD X2 4800 on Asus A8N32-sli + 7800GTX 512 in January.

OldOfEvil
12-26-05, 09:47 AM
I'm partial to AMD myself but, to your question. I would go with the P4 3.8 with HT, it won't be as good at multi tasking as the Pentium D but you have more brute power for things like games with the faster clocked 3.8 P4, and HT does help for some games and multi-tasking, though not quiet as much a true dual core CPU. Hoped that helped.

GitDat
12-26-05, 10:25 AM
Any opinions on this memory?

http://www.ocztechnology.com/images/products/memory/b/PC25400EBDC.jpg
OCZ DDR2 PC2-5400 Platinum Enhanced Bandwidth Dual Channel

Would that be the best memory for this motherboard?

|MaguS|
12-26-05, 10:26 AM
If your a Hardcore gamer then there is no reason for you to go Intel. AMD out preforms Intel on every level when it comes to gaming and they are still alot cheaper.

jAkUp
12-26-05, 11:42 AM
Yea, Intel is not ideal for gaming. But if you must, the 3.8GHz should perform better for games. If you were going AMD, I would of recommended the Dual Core AMD, but for Intel, they need all the help in raw clockspeed that they can get.

GitDat
12-26-05, 11:47 AM
http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/11/21/the_mother_of_all_cpu_charts_2005/page29.html
The Athlon 64 FX 67 is cleaning house! But they go for like $1,000 though :(

jAkUp
12-26-05, 11:48 AM
Even an AMD x2 4400+, or AMD 3700+ will spank the 3.8GHz P4 for gaming.

ViN86
12-26-05, 11:57 AM
So which would be better for achieving higher frame rates in games? A dual core P4-d 840 3.2Ghz or a P4 3.8Ghz Hyper Threading? Would it be the dual core or the higher Ghz processor that would perform better?

I'm planning on getting an ASUS P5N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard & a BFG 7800 GTX OC 512MB video card. Any recommendation on the best memory for game frame rates as well?

Thanks.
yea check into an nforce4 ultra or nforce4 SLI motherboard. if you go intel, that card will be so bottlenecked its ridiculous.

GitDat
12-26-05, 11:59 AM
Yep, I'm convinced. I'm going AMD now :afro:

GitDat
12-26-05, 12:16 PM
Even an AMD x2 4400+, or AMD 3700+ will spank the 3.8GHz P4 for gaming.

Dang jAkUp, I want your setup. So is the OCZ Gold memory the best for your setup? I want to overclock my setup once I get it but I don't want to use water cooling or any extra fans.. just stock stuff. Is the OCZ Gold better than the OCZ Platinum?

Oh, and I also noticed on OCZ's website they have 3 different version of the 4000 Gold Dual Channel. Which do you recommend?

ViN86
12-26-05, 12:22 PM
Dang jAkUp, I want your setup. So is the OCZ Gold memory the best for your setup? I want to overclock my setup once I get it but I don't want to use water cooling or any extra fans.. just stock stuff. Is the OCZ Gold better than the OCZ Platinum?
also remember, AMD doesnt support DDR2 yet.

Rakeesh
12-26-05, 01:09 PM
Ugh. Please go AMD, becuz they're cheaper and perform better in games !

The P4 D 840 is most expensive, is very power demanding / heating and performs worst in games in that price range of > $ 800. The P4 3.8 single
core is a slightly better choice but I still would not recommend it.

Get yourself an AMD X2 4400 for about $ 497 and if you don't have a s939
mobo you can buy that too and still spend less money than buying the expensive Pentiums. Or you could go AMD FX55 or FX57 for absulote best game performance. I'd still recommend X2 dual cores though for most ppl.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103546

I'm switching from Intel pc (see sig) to AMD X2 4800 on Asus A8N32-sli + 7800GTX 512 in January.

That all depends. I purchase through the intel retail edge program and it is cheaper than AMD. I would still prefer AMD anyways though as their current products are far superior to anything intel offers, no matter how you slice it.

More info about intel retail edge:

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=40&threadid=1680881&enterthread=y

Pentium D 820, motherboard, win xp pro retail, and photoshop for $215, which is less than the CPU itself. :D

Last year I got my current motherboard and CPU for $200, and this bundle was normally priced for $600.

AMD also has a retail edge program, but it only comes around once every two years instead of every year. Unfortunately though, they often give you pretty cheesy motherboards, whereas the boards intel gives you are pretty rock solid. AMD often gives you free memory (huge amounts of it too) in this bundle though.

GitDat
12-26-05, 01:34 PM
Well after all of this research I've decided to go with the BFG 7800 GTX OC 512MB(of course), ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe, AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ 2.2 Ghz Socket 939 Dual-Core & Corsair TWINX2048-3500LLPRO 2GB Kit.

Thanks for the help guys (cheers)

Maybe after the upgrade I can get King Kong Gamers' Edition to run at 30+ FPS.. haha. You guys should try running that on your systems. It's choked my system like no other game.. sheesh.

Knot3D
12-26-05, 02:43 PM
My 7800GTX 512, amongst other stuff, is already on order. You might however, hold out a little more to wait and see what Ati's X1900XT is gonna be in January.

About the Intel retail edge ; I do not regret my purchase of my current P4 Northwood. After that, I'm glad to switch to AMD. I need dual core for 3D rendering. That Pentium D 840 would suck up too much energy and get too hot for my liking. I'm not even into OC'ing, I just want fast, stable and cool computing power and that's what AMD does better than Intel since the Prescott. Money's only secondary issue.

GitDat
12-26-05, 05:31 PM
So what's up with the Athlon 64 FX-57? It's not even dual core and it's kicking everything's arse :confused:

saturnotaku
12-26-05, 05:44 PM
Clock for clock, a single core processor is going to outperform dual cores in gaming. But as applications start to take advantage of the second core, that edge will go away. Lots of people have switched to dual core processors because they offer smoother performance in everyday multitasking.

jolle
12-26-05, 06:10 PM
currently there are only a few gaming titles that uses both cores, COD2 (via patch), Quake4 (via beta patch), Serious Sam 2 to mention a the few I can recall..
future games will be using it tho, Oblivion for one, and anything using the UE3.0 engine..

GitDat
12-26-05, 06:48 PM
currently there are only a few gaming titles that uses both cores, COD2 (via patch), Quake4 (via beta patch), Serious Sam 2 to mention a the few I can recall..
future games will be using it tho, Oblivion for one, and anything using the UE3.0 engine..

Will that then make the dual core processors faster than the "higher clocked" single processors? Or will clock speed still be the biggest factor?

GamerGuyX
12-26-05, 07:46 PM
I hate people that use Intel processors. :mad:

darkrider01
12-26-05, 07:55 PM
I hate people that use Intel processors. :mad:

Why is that? Hate is such a strong word. Do you also hate yourself then?

GamerGuyX
12-26-05, 07:57 PM
Why is that? Hate is such a strong word. Do you also hate yourself then?

Yes. :(

Tygerwoody
12-26-05, 08:13 PM
dont listen to them! Go for intel! :zombie7:

jAkUp
12-26-05, 08:50 PM
All games use multiple cores with the latest Forceware drivers. I got nice boosts in just about all games.

GitDat
12-26-05, 09:43 PM
Clock for clock, a single core processor is going to outperform dual cores in gaming. But as applications start to take advantage of the second core, that edge will go away. Lots of people have switched to dual core processors because they offer smoother performance in everyday multitasking.

So that's my big dilemma. Should I go with the Athlon 64 FX-57 or the Athlon 64 x2 4800 dual core (daz)