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jpinard
12-31-05, 04:39 AM
OK, I think I've sold my current video card and I have to make a decision in the next 2 days. Do I go with the ATI X1800XT video card, or the NVidia 7800GTX based card? Don't let price be a factor.

I will have to swap out my motherboard at this point too. So if I get the ATI card, I'll get the ATI (shown below), and if I get the NVidia card, I'll get an NV board (shwo below).

ATI Crossfire board (A8R-MVP ):
http://usa.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=15&l3=236&model=787&modelmenu=1

Asus NV SLI board (A8N32-SLI Deluxe)
http://usa.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=15&l3=0&model=744&modelmenu=1

I'm also getting the Creative Labs XiFi sound card too (the cheapest version).

I am really desparate for some good advice. So I thank all of you that come in and help me make a tough decision. Thank you so very much!


<<<<< note >>>>>

* I'm referring to the NVidia 7800 GTX with 256 Meg RAM, not 512. The 512 version is way too expensive.

* Also graphic quality is my number concern.
* Tied for my number one concern is playable framerates. I like playing games (if possible) 4x FSAA, 16x AF, 1600x1200, best quality textures.

jpinard
12-31-05, 04:40 AM
Now in case everyone just says "NVidia!!" just because this is an NVidia site... could you give me some examples why the NVidia route would be better? Thank you! (xmasmile)

Di Canio
12-31-05, 05:53 AM
The X1800 XT is with 4aa-8af big Faster.!

[EOCF] Tim
12-31-05, 07:00 AM
X1800XT is faster then the GTX....so yea, X1800XT :)

rudedog
12-31-05, 07:25 AM
I would say they are both close (ATI 512 vs Nvidia 256) so get what you can get your hands on at a cheaper price.

Remember that SLI is more machore(sp?) then crossfire so if you wish to go dual card in the future I would recommend the GTX

If your looking for pure speed, then your would want the GTX 512 if $$ was not a factor.

With both of the cards your deciding on, remember that your processor will also play a big part in what your game settings are.

Other things to remember, X1800xx cards will be phased out for the newer ATI offerings possibly making it harder to get a second card in the future.

Good luck in your decision and let us know what you chose.

Henno
12-31-05, 08:15 AM
I can imagine someone preferring a GTX/512 over a XT. But the XT vs the GTX/256? Get the XT.
In the latest games like CoD2 and Fear the XT comes VERY close to the GTX/512, and it's featureset (HQAF + FP HDR+AA) is very nice.

joshua7
12-31-05, 08:27 AM
I would say they are both close (ATI 512 vs Nvidia 256) so get what you can get your hands on at a cheaper price.

What? The xt512 is clearly the better choice!

saturnotaku
12-31-05, 09:01 AM
What? The xt512 is clearly the better choice!

Not if you play OpenGL games. Plus you have to deal with the bloated wonder known as the Catalyst Control Center.

Do what you want to do, but ATI's not all sunshine and roses.

eva2000
12-31-05, 09:01 AM
Original poster says 512MB GTX too expensive not an option so i'd say got 512MB X1800XT i like mine

3dmark05

Opteron 170@2930mhz!!!

X1800XT stock heatsink @756/909
- undervolted ram from 2.097v to 2.034v (thanks SIOUX!)
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron170/CCWBE_0546XPMW/OCZ/PC4000EB/2_1/1114_3/LDT3x/10x/180/293-266-3325-7-14-2223_1.62-1.5-1.6-2.64_1552_ds8dds2_8N5/X1800XT_stockHSF/3dmark05_756-909_11165_tnn.jpg (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron170/CCWBE_0546XPMW/OCZ/PC4000EB/2_1/1114_3/LDT3x/10x/180/293-266-3325-7-14-2223_1.62-1.5-1.6-2.64_1552_ds8dds2_8N5/X1800XT_stockHSF/3dmark05_756-909_11165.jpg)

Peoples-Agent
12-31-05, 10:18 AM
For a single card option, it's common sense to assume the XT1800 would be the better choice vs a GTX 256MB, but I am more than happy with two 7800GTs in SLI... and would choose that over a single GTX 256MB or an 1800XT anyday.
£500 for the pair was a steal , (way prices have been over here anyways) !

BrianG
12-31-05, 10:20 AM
We need a thread merge.

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=781984&postcount=6

shoman24v
12-31-05, 10:36 AM
X1900xt ;)

Fathertime36
12-31-05, 11:24 AM
One thing I would be very iffy about, ATI chipset mobo, I' am assumimg that you might want to go crossfire possibly somewhere down the road or at least have that option, granted nf4's have some issues but I haven't heard anything positive about the ATI ones....heard VIA is a more reliable choice then an ATI chipset, that is not a good thing either, and there is only a limited ammount of models out in the market.....makes kind of wonder what the reason is behind the obvious lack of vendor support....I have my own opinion on that but I'll keep em to myself.

Henno
12-31-05, 11:57 AM
One thing I would be very iffy about, ATI chipset mobo, I' am assumimg that you might want to go crossfire possibly somewhere down the road or at least have that option, granted nf4's have some issues but I haven't heard anything positive about the ATI ones.....

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2617

jAkUp
12-31-05, 12:54 PM
Its a shame you can't wait a month or so until the x1900xt/G71.

If 3DMark05 is any indicator, I would definetely wait :)

SH64
12-31-05, 04:51 PM
I'd go with the X1800XT 512MB .. it offers slightly better performance & overall IQ & a neat feature which is HDR+AA.
but for the motherboard i'd go with nVIDIA nForce 4 chipset are its more mature (like someone else here said) than the Xpress200 chipset , but then again you will be stuck with nVIDIA's SLI if you ever wanted to go dual GPU & TBH .. that wont be a problem really becuase nVIDIA is doing very good with thier SLI support.

noko
01-01-06, 12:01 PM
Very good advice I see in this thread, I thought NF4 will support Cross-Fire? Now I don't remember who tested that configuration out. If it does I would go with the X1800XT with a NVIDIA chipped board at this date. A couple of months from now, as several mentioned, that would probably change.

Fathertime36
01-01-06, 02:08 PM
NO!, hold your horses Noko, if you want to run nvidia's SLi, you have to own a nvidia sli capable mobo, and if you want to run crossfire you must own an ATI crossfire capable board, if you run a single card you can use either type of mobo though, see it is a catch22 here, be careful and make sure you have it right before you make any purchases, can't run crossfireon a nvidia mobo and you can't run Sli on an ATI mobo.....

Burnt_Ram
01-02-06, 10:21 AM
i'd say go for whatever card is the better deal. apple's to oranges i say ;)

joshua7
01-02-06, 01:23 PM
Not if you play OpenGL games. Plus you have to deal with the bloated wonder known as the Catalyst Control Center.

Do what you want to do, but ATI's not all sunshine and roses.

There are only a few OpenGL games, D3D games are a lot more widespread. I wouldn't buy a card just for Q4 or Doom3... In almost all the other games the xt512 is clearly better.

Elfear
01-02-06, 02:13 PM
There are only a few OpenGL games, D3D games are a lot more widespread. I wouldn't buy a card just for Q4 or Doom3... In almost all the other games the xt512 is clearly better.

:thumbsup:

SuperBORG
01-02-06, 08:58 PM
NO!, hold your horses Noko, if you want to run nvidia's SLi, you have to own a nvidia sli capable mobo, and if you want to run crossfire you must own an ATI crossfire capable board, if you run a single card you can use either type of mobo though, see it is a catch22 here, be careful and make sure you have it right before you make any purchases, can't run crossfireon a nvidia mobo and you can't run Sli on an ATI mobo.....


Actually, from what I read, CF works on nf4 SLI. And back when CF was in the works, ATI used nf4 SLI internally to test CF before they had their own chipset ready.

Xasz
01-02-06, 10:56 PM
One thing I would be very iffy about, ATI chipset mobo, I' am assumimg that you might want to go crossfire possibly somewhere down the road or at least have that option, granted nf4's have some issues but I haven't heard anything positive about the ATI ones....
The A8R-MVP has a 5 star average rating on newegg, and that's the board he's considering for Crossfire.

grimreefer
01-02-06, 11:40 PM
i hope u dont plan on overclocking that cpu........
ati chipset on that mobo sux ass for overclocking...
if u want a good mobo and crossfire, u have to go intel

Xasz
01-03-06, 04:39 AM
i hope u dont plan on overclocking that cpu........
ati chipset on that mobo sux ass for overclocking...
if u want a good mobo and crossfire, u have to go intel
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2617