View Full Version : Should I buy 6800 GT AGP or wait for 7800 GS AGP?
Flavius
01-06-06, 02:50 PM
Does anyone think a 7800 GS AGP is coming out with the next 2 or 3 months? Or should I just buy a BFG 6800 GT AGP? I just want to play Q4 @ 1024xHQx2XAA on my P4 3.0C without huge shadow-induced frame rate dips ala my X800 XT.
i'd wait for the 7800GS, it's prolly gonna be pretty nicely priced, considering that you can get a 7800GT for under $300 already. extra features and better performance over the 6800 will make it worth the wait!
Flavius
01-06-06, 03:23 PM
But there is a chance it will never come out on AGP, right?
911medic
01-06-06, 03:36 PM
I wouldn't count on it. I have a feeling the 6800GS may be one of the last AGP cards released by nVidia. I suppose it's possible, tho; I haven't seen any statements either way.
But there is a chance it will never come out on AGP, right?
ah, sorry, missed that in your first post. i agree with 911medic, i doubt it'd come out in AGP, but there's still a chance of it.
Flavius
01-07-06, 12:06 AM
Well I went ahead and bought a BFG 6800 GT OC AGP from BestBuy tonight. Went to the only BB in the northeast that still had one! Got it for $302 after coupons and gift card. Now I'm just praying it will be faster in Q4 than my X800XT that I had to put in my girlfriend's computer. Will miss Truform, but HDR and Pixel Shader 3.0 should make up for that, I hope.
anticitizenzero
01-07-06, 01:52 AM
Just out of curiosity, if they did make a 7800 AGP card, would the speed of AGP still offer a gain over a 6800 AGP or have they hit a limit on AGP bandwith?
bkswaney
01-07-06, 03:35 AM
Just out of curiosity, if they did make a 7800 AGP card, would the speed of AGP still offer a gain over a 6800 AGP or have they hit a limit on AGP bandwith?
The limit was never used up on AGP boards.
IF they make a 7800 GS AGP I'm sure it will be a fast card.
But that's a BIG if. I would just grab a 6800.
AGP 8x is 2GB/s, so pretty much the same bandwidth as PCI-Express with 8 lanes, the only exception is that PCI-Express can do it in both directions, but that isnt a big deal with graphics as most data is always sent up to the card rather then from the card. Most people's SLI setups run on 8 lanes per card, pretty much AGP 8x bandwidth per card. 2GB/s each.
New motherboards from ASUS and the like can do the full 16 lanes (4GB/s) per card now, but the benchmarks show nothing for any real performance gain.
ricercar
01-07-06, 05:36 PM
The limit was never used up on AGP boards.My friends who write NVIDIA's demos at NVIDIA disagree. They claim the G70 (7800) is bandwidth-limited on AGP 8x and that this is the reason NVIDIA has no plans to make a G70 AGP reference design.
FWIW This means the OEM would have to come up with an AGP reference design "out of pocket," and this is not likely to occur.
YMMV.
911medic
01-10-06, 12:43 AM
Does anyone think a 7800 GS AGP is coming out with the next 2 or 3 months?Well, I guess here's your answer (http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=4348).
superklye
01-10-06, 12:51 AM
I thought I read somewhere on this board that the 7800 GS was just a card sent to review partners or something and was never intended to get into public hands.
bkswaney
01-10-06, 01:24 AM
I thought I read somewhere on this board that the 7800 GS was just a card sent to review partners or something and was never intended to get into public hands.
That's what I thought to. Hell who knows
other than nvidia. :)
Hexus is reporting about 7800GS AGP and NVIDIA talked about 7800GS PCI Express.
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=759084&postcount=1
i hope the 7800GS can overclock up from 350mhz to 400mhz.
Flavius
01-10-06, 02:06 AM
God no.... NO! I just bough a 6800GT OC AGP thinking Nvidia would NOT release any 7800 AGP part any time soon if ever! Noooooooooooo!!!
ricercar
01-10-06, 02:44 PM
an AGP reference design ... is not likely to occur.I was wrong, so wrong, I could not have been more wrong.
Flavius
01-10-06, 02:51 PM
I was wrong, so wrong, I could not have been more wrong.
That's it.... you owe me $300 mister!
Peoples-Agent
01-10-06, 04:31 PM
I think of graphics cards like women.
You can either snap up the one your ok with to lose your load off now and then, or wait for someone better to come along..... running the risk that they may not come along at all. Be sat waiting forever.
JamesDax
01-10-06, 04:51 PM
I just don't understand why anyone would think that Nvidia wouldn't release a 7xxx series AGP. There are just to many folks out there with AGP system that would spend quicker for a new Video card then they would for a new Video card, MB and probably CPU.
Now I'm going to have to wait to see what's up with this card before purchasing that 6800GS AGP I was looking at.
Flavius
01-10-06, 05:40 PM
I hope it never sees the light of day so I don't have to put up my 1 week old BFG 6800 GT OC AGP on eBay for a loss! Surely you understand my predicament... and what the previous poster said about video card and women.... omg, that is so true. Story of my life man.
a12ctic
01-10-06, 05:49 PM
if you would have been smart you should have gotten EVGA, step up program would be great in your situation :-p
Flavius
01-10-06, 08:55 PM
Well crap, I didn't know about the eVGA step up program.... now I do. Doesn't mean I'm not smart, it's not exactly well known!! Would have been perfect, oh well.
WOW!!! Didn't think they'd release one. Not sure if it will be worth upgrading to though with DirectX10 on the horizon. I wonder how much it will go for?
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