Will M$ able dominate console market slowly ?

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Will M$ able dominate console market slowly ?

I mean, like in many business (in which some they even had no experience before) , they dominated them by making dumping practices (IE for free, for example), buying competitor softwarehouses, etc. It took M$ several years ( 5 on avarage) to dominate each spot.

[thcdru2k]

i don't think so..playstation and sony is pretty strong. most of the companies microsoft dominated where never as big as sony.

[borntosoul]

thats a tough one 'cause stranger things have happened. i really do think sony is in a really good position ,only they could mess things up for themselfs if they make a mistake with the ps3. ms has to release the xbox2 earlier than the ps3 ,we're going to have to wait to see for that one ,sony has won round one and two, lets see how strong a fighter ms is do they have the amo to come out on top, maybe (they have enough money to invest).

[sancheuz]

Originally posted by borntosoul
thats a tough one 'cause stranger things have happened. i really do think sony is in a really good position ,only they could mess things up for themselfs if they make a mistake with the ps3. ms has to release the xbox2 earlier than the ps3 ,we're going to have to wait to see for that one ,sony has won round one and two, lets see how strong a fighter ms is do they have the amo to come out on top, maybe (they have enough money to invest).

Good point. I think Playstation came out so far on top of xbox because of its early releasal. Parents ran to buy kid a ps2, then they ran out of cash and wouldnt want to buy their kids an xbox. NOw, if xbox 2 comes out before ps3, that might be a strategical advantage for microsoft. However, i still believe the future of video games rely on computers.

[borntosoul]

i think that consols or a consol that is a bit closer to a computer in design will be the gaming platform of the future

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by sancheuz
Good point. I think Playstation came out so far on top of xbox because of its early releasal. Parents ran to buy kid a ps2, then they ran out of cash and wouldnt want to buy their kids an xbox. NOw, if xbox 2 comes out before ps3, that might be a strategical advantage for microsoft. However, i still believe the future of video games rely on computers.

i don't think so. PS2 sold well because of PS1's reputation. remember, PS1 came out after Saturn, so that doesn't explain why it won out over N64 and Saturn.

Xbox also came out before GC(at least in the US, dunno about Europe). anyway, GC is leading everywhere but in the US last i checked.

[fastguy94416]

Am I the only one that thinks PC's and consoles will merge and become almost one in the same?

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by fastguy94416
Am I the only one that thinks PC's and consoles will merge and become almost one in the same?

maybe. i will continue to stand by the reasoning for the success of consoles being ease of use and plug and play.

PCs are not as popular because it costs lots of money to upgrade often, and they give lots of people difficulty with various incompatibilities(hardware, software, and personal. yes, most problems are probably causes by users).

in other words, the greatest weakness of consoles is their inflexibility. and the greatest strength of consoles is their inflexibility.

[fastguy94416]

my thoughts exactly

[borntosoul]

maybe. i will continue to stand by the reasoning for the success of consoles being ease of use and plug and play.

PCs are not as popular because it costs lots of money to upgrade often, and they give lots of people difficulty with various incompatibilities(hardware, software, and personal. yes, most problems are probably causes by users).

in other words, the greatest weakness of consoles is their inflexibility. and the greatest strength of consoles is their inflexibility.


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. i agree with most of that stealth ,but i dont see a concol being not as flexible as a pc a weekness at all ,its just in our mind set that we think we have to tweek every bloody thing in a game and not sit down and play the damn thing !i think its a desease i call it tweakaholic

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by borntosoul
i agree with most of that stealth ,but i dont see a concol being not as flexible as a pc a weekness at all ,its just in our mind set that we think we have to tweek every bloody thing in a game and not sit down and play the damn thing !i think its a desease i call it tweakaholic

i wasn't really referring to tweakability. it is a minor problem. but more upgradability. add-ons have really failed overall(64DD, segacd, 32x, et al). you're basically stuck with the same tech for 5 years which rocks in the beginning, but gets stale as hell after 3 years.

[borntosoul]

yes five years is a long time on the same hardware ,and thats another problem consols have to address (for me),ive had my ps2 for three weeks now and i can see some of the graphics look a bit shabby vs the pc but in other places the graphics look better ! but we should be talking about comon folks ,would most of them care or know the difference? the market is changing all the time and more and more people are getting into computer/consol games ,it wont be the hard core gamers as much who are taking the industry in new places ,majority will rule in this market as well ,look at the changes in the graphics card market (whole designs are based on getting the most out of the mid/value parts not the high end part anymore .

[StealthHawk]

borntosoul,

it seems like we are saying the same thing to me. nothing you have said has contradicted my statement :D

[borntosoul]

stealth we got the same cpu too , youre scaring me :)

[borntosoul]

yes we are basicaly saying the same thing but my tilt is a bit different (thats cause i like to be a bit different) , i was thinking more along the lines of mainstream consumers not just seasoned computer folk