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Airbrushkid
01-17-06, 07:40 AM
Just curious. I'm running a AMD Barton 3200 2.2 gig stock. So can I run the new 7800GS AGP card? Or should I just get a 6800 Ultra or 6800GS?

saturnotaku
01-17-06, 07:50 AM
Either card is going to be a bottleneck for that CPU. If I were you, I'd look at the 68xx cards as you probably could get a pretty sweet deal on one once 7800GS cards are out en masse. But honestly, you won't go wrong either way.

hazindu
01-17-06, 08:12 AM
If you play games at high quality settings and use high resolutions, your cpu will not be that much of a bottleneck. If you don't use high quality settings and resolutions, why get a high end video card at all?

jAkUp
01-17-06, 10:06 AM
Yea, for high resolutions, and more AA/AF the 7800GS would be a better option with 16 pipes.

Nvidiot222
01-17-06, 10:38 AM
So, 7800GS AGP is official ??

Any dates / price ??

How about mi Rig, good for 7800GS AGP ?

AMD Athlon64 3400+ (s 754)
MSI K8T Neo
1 GB RAM PC3200 DDR-400

Airbrushkid
01-17-06, 11:27 AM
Word is Feb. 2nd.

eli
01-17-06, 11:34 AM
I think you have a good card already, why not get a better cpu 4000+, then later on when the price comes down, 7800:)

$n][pErMan
01-17-06, 12:03 PM
go 7800. Plus.. those bartons OC all so very nice. Get a good fan and crank that sucker up ;) It will add a little bit more power for you... just be carefull :p If I recall the 3200 was locked at a lower multiplier so you will probably only be able to reach 2.4Ghz unless you have good ram or a lucky CPU. :) I think you will be happy either way.

Airbrushkid
01-17-06, 03:23 PM
My Barton is locked!!

Airbrushkid
01-17-06, 03:24 PM
Right I don't want to buy another cpu. If I did that means I have to buy another motherboard too.



I think you have a good card already, why not get a better cpu 4000+, then later on when the price comes down, 7800:)

Acid Rain
01-18-06, 11:52 AM
I think you have a good card already, why not get a better cpu 4000+, then later on when the price comes down, 7800:)While I think the 6600GT is too weak today, I'd have to agree, get a nice Athlon64 setup first. Need AGP 8x and PCIe 16x? Get the AsRock 939 Dual-SATA 2. It's a great AGP to PCIe bridge product, and is actually quite a nice performer. I was kindof in your shoes a while ago and heavily considered this route.

*edit* I read your last post. Maybe you say that because you weren't aware of the existence of a good bridge product. Either way, good luck to you.

superklye
01-18-06, 01:00 PM
I think you'd be much better off going with the XFX 6800 GS XXX Edition card that Rytr recentrly reviewed. It'll probably be cheaper and it overclocks like its life depends on it.

Airbrushkid
01-18-06, 03:56 PM
Well it's easier to shell out $300.00 right now for a AGP then to spend about $1300.00 for a new motherboard and cpu and pci-express video card that I like!!!

I'd have to agree, get a nice Athlon64 setup first. Need AGP 8x and PCIe 16x? Get the AsRock 939 Dual-SATA 2. It's a great AGP to PCIe bridge product, and is actually quite a nice performer. I was kindof in your shoes a while ago and heavily considered this route.

JamesDax
01-18-06, 04:53 PM
I think that his current CPU with a 7800 would be better in most games then a higher end CPU with a 6600GT. I say go for the 7800GS.

snowmanwithahat
01-18-06, 06:07 PM
any real news on the pipelines/ clock speeds on the 7800 GS?

john19055
01-19-06, 12:59 AM
For a little over $400 you could get a Venice 3200 and a motherboard and a 6800Gs.

Airbrushkid
01-19-06, 06:46 AM
What I want cost more then $400.00.

AMD ATHLON 64 X2 4800+
A8N-SLI Premium
BFG Geforce 7800GTX 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express

Total = $1623.00


Not $400.00

superklye
01-19-06, 07:32 AM
What I want cost more then $400.00.

AMD ATHLON 64 X2 4800+
A8N-SLI Premium
BFG Geforce 7800GTX 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express

Total = $1623.00


Not $400.00
Then why not save up for it instead of wasting money on an AGP card that isn't going to be used to half of its potential on your current setup?

JamesDax
01-19-06, 08:40 AM
Then why not save up for it instead of wasting money on an AGP card that isn't going to be used to half of its potential on your current setup?

You are so full of crap. How could it be a waste of money? His system would be significantly faster with that card. In fact, assuming the 7800GS matches or exceeds the 6800U in performance, I'd say that his system wouldn't be that much slower then yours in most games today. In a test done last year over at X-bit Labs the Sempron 3400 prefromed 10fps or less in most games then a FX-57 when both were using a 7800GT. Even the Sempron 2800+ ran the games at more the acceptible frame rates. All the test were run at 1280x1024 @ max details(except for FEAR and CoD2 which were run at 1024x768). So I say again. If he isn't ready to invest in totally rebuilding his system, then getting a new high end card like the 7800GS would be a very good investment.

I love how people assume they can tell others how best to spend their money.

Airbrushkid
01-19-06, 09:27 AM
Well maybe people think that because they have a large post count that it means they know what there talking about.......

Now if I did decide to save up to build a whole new system. The problem would be by the time I do get enough money the system I wanted is to old then. So it makes more sence to save and wait a couple years...

superklye
01-19-06, 11:28 AM
You are so full of crap. How could it be a waste of money? His system would be significantly faster with that card. In fact, assuming the 7800GS matches or exceeds the 6800U in performance, I'd say that his system wouldn't be that much slower then yours in most games today. In a test done last year over at X-bit Labs the Sempron 3400 prefromed 10fps or less in most games then a FX-57 when both were using a 7800GT. Even the Sempron 2800+ ran the games at more the acceptible frame rates. All the test were run at 1280x1024 @ max details(except for FEAR and CoD2 which were run at 1024x768). So I say again. If he isn't ready to invest in totally rebuilding his system, then getting a new high end card like the 7800GS would be a very good investment.

I love how people assume they can tell others how best to spend their money.
I’m full of crap because I said it would be a better idea to save money for a better system down the line? Okay… :rolleyes2 Waste your money. Get slower parts and spend every cent you get so that dream system is always going to be that: a dream.

There, is that better?

And last time I checked, when you asked for people’s opinions: you’re going to get them. Don’t be shocked when it happens. I don’t recall saying, “SPEND YOUR MONEY LIKE THIS OR DIE.” I said what I thought was the best idea, just as you’re doing. I love it when people assume they have the only opinion that counts.

But hey, it’s his money and I really don’t care what it's spend it on…so get the sand out of your vaginas and calm down.

Well maybe people think that because they have a large post count that it means they know what there talking about.......
And no, the fact that I know the difference between "there" and "their" tells me I know what I’m talking about.

Now if I did decide to save up to build a whole new system. The problem would be by the time I do get enough money the system I wanted is to old then. So it makes more sence to save and wait a couple years...
Silly me...I always thought that in order to save up for something, you had to stop spending it on other things and put the money aside. I guess I better go close my savings account and spend everything in there, so in a few years, when I need it, I'll have it.

hectorsm
01-19-06, 11:46 AM
I love how people assume they can tell others how best to spend their money.


That is what Rar is asking for...a suggestions on how to best spend his money.

I don't see a problem with superklye questions. Rar is free to pick and choose which suggestion he likes best.

superklye
01-19-06, 11:49 AM
That is what Rar is asking for...a suggestions on how to best spend his money.

I don't see a problem with superklye questions. Rar is free to pick and choose which suggestion he likes best.
Thank you.

JamesDax
01-19-06, 01:33 PM
That is what Rar is asking for...a suggestions on how to best spend his money.

I don't see a problem with superklye questions. Rar is free to pick and choose which suggestion he likes best.

Actually Rar asked which card he should get for his current system, not how to spend more money then he has to build a new system.

JamesDax
01-19-06, 01:39 PM
I’m full of crap because I said it would be a better idea to save money for a better system down the line? Okay… :rolleyes2 Waste your money. Get slower parts and spend every cent you get so that dream system is always going to be that: a dream.

There, is that better?

And last time I checked, when you asked for people’s opinions: you’re going to get them. Don’t be shocked when it happens. I don’t recall saying, “SPEND YOUR MONEY LIKE THIS OR DIE.” I said what I thought was the best idea, just as you’re doing. I love it when people assume they have the only opinion that counts.


Yeah, you are full of crap. He asked a very specific question. Which card would be best for his system. Any of the cards would be a faster part so I don't know what the heck you are talking about when you say he's getting slower parts. So next time read the question and answer the question.