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Roliath
01-19-06, 06:47 PM
I think i've out grown my MX518, so I'm on a mouse hunt now.
But I can't decide whether to go with a G5, G7, or Copperhead.
Logitech G5 (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=211158) | Logitech G7 (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=211157) | Razer Copperhead - Tempest Blue (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826153105)

Okay, so I really like the feel and ergonomics of the MX518; I had an MX510 before so I'm somewhat accustomed to the feel/shape of Logitech Mice. But I hate the color of the G5 and G7, if I were to purchase one of these I would have to get it painted ASAP. This is why I am considering the Copperhead, mainly for its color. I know there is no real difference in the mice except for the shape and feel of them.
I have a couple of questions to any owners that have anyone of these mice.
If I go went the G7 will I notice any lag that is usually associated with wireless mice? And the Copperhead has 32Kb of onboard memory, what is the use for this and how is Razers' driver support?

jAkUp
01-19-06, 06:53 PM
The use for the onboard memory on the Copperhead is to save profiles, in other words, you can take your mouse, plug it into another computer, and your custom settings will still be there.

Roadhog
01-19-06, 06:54 PM
alot of people dont like the copperhead because its so small.

I'd say go for the G7, wireless is the best. I have an MX1000, and i love it.

keith33
01-19-06, 07:31 PM
The use for the onboard memory on the Copperhead is to save profiles, in other words, you can take your mouse, plug it into another computer, and your custom settings will still be there.

Copperhead FTW. (nana2)

j0j081
01-19-06, 07:36 PM
I have the g7 and there is no wireless lag at all, I've used other wireless mice and this is the first one not to have it. It doesn't look that bad either at least compared to the g5.

einstein_314
01-19-06, 08:00 PM
I say go for the G7. I picked one up the other day and I love it. The colour in all of the pictures make it look ugly, but it's not at all. The green is a really dark green. There is no lag at all. And it's so much lighter than my old MX700.

Roliath
01-19-06, 08:13 PM
Man i'm soo torn, G7 or Copperhead...
Did anyone here have an MX510/518 and go to the copperhead? How much smaller is the copperhead than the MX?
Also to those who have the G7, how long is the battery life? I know it comes with two right?

keith33
01-19-06, 08:19 PM
I went from an MX510 (1 week) to a Diamondback (5 months) to a G5 (2 weeks) to a Copperhead (so far 2 months). That says it all :)

CaptNKILL
01-19-06, 08:27 PM
I have to recommend the MX518. It may not be as "high tech" as the G series or the Razer but its very accurate, very comfortable, has sensitivity controls on the mouse AND has both back AND forward buttons. Not to mention itl only run you about $30-$35.

I love this mouse :)

jAkUp
01-19-06, 08:29 PM
I had an MX500/518/G5 and Copperhead.

Out of all of them I like the Copperhead. The missing back button on the G5 really sucks.

Roliath
01-19-06, 08:30 PM
The thing that really concerns me right now, is the battery life on the G7 and the overall lightness of the Copperhead. Plus the copperhead has two side buttons which is a plus for me, as I do use my side buttons on my MX518 alot.

EDIT: CaptNKILL I have an MX518 right now, and while I am satisfied with it I want to move on to the newest Generation.

jAkUp
01-19-06, 08:31 PM
Your best bet would be to head down do a Bestbuy, and try the Copperhead, it takes some use to get used to the shape, some people don't like it.

CaptNKILL
01-19-06, 08:36 PM
EDIT: CaptNKILL I have an MX518 right now, and while I am satisfied with it I want to move on to the newest Generation.
hehe, oops... :o

nV`andrew
01-19-06, 08:59 PM
I have to recommend the MX518. It may not be as "high tech" as the G series or the Razer but its very accurate, very comfortable, has sensitivity controls on the mouse AND has both back AND forward buttons. Not to mention itl only run you about $30-$35.

I love this mouse :)

MX518 FTW! (nana2)

a12ctic
01-19-06, 09:01 PM
ibm mo28bo best mouse ever imo!

j0j081
01-19-06, 09:37 PM
The thing that really concerns me right now, is the battery life on the G7 and the overall lightness of the Copperhead.
Well let me tell you this. If you are gaming 8 hours a day the battery will wear down in no time but for casual use it seems to last 2 or 3 days. I game a lot so I have to change mine every day but that's why they give you 2. It takes me less than 5 seconds to switch so I can even let it run out in game and not really interupt my play unless it's at a mission critical point. Also, using boost mode the battery is fully charged in under 2 hours for me so I love it. My old mx700 lasted a lot longer but the added weight wasn't worth it. Same with the mx1000 I hear.

Roadhog
01-19-06, 09:49 PM
My MX1000, goes for 2 days straight of gaming at LAN parties, and the battery only gets to the middle mark, not even low. I love it. :D

einstein_314
01-19-06, 09:58 PM
I had an MX500/518/G5 and Copperhead.

Out of all of them I like the Copperhead. The missing back button on the G5 really sucks.
Missing back button? The G5 and G7 both have back buttons... Now if it's the forward button you're refering too...that's a different story. That's the one thing I miss about my old MX700, the forward button. Oh well, no biggie.

superklye
01-19-06, 11:11 PM
alot of people dont like the copperhead because its so small.

I'd say go for the G7, wireless is the best. I have an MX1000, and i love it.
I also have an MX1000 and also love it. The battery life is insane, something which can also be said about the G7...but that's because it's so crappy. There's a reason it comes with two batteries...

Get the MX1000. 800 dpi is more than enough, especially with acceleration available in many games.

Roliath
01-20-06, 12:30 AM
Well I just sold my MX518, so I'm back on my MX510.
I will be stopping by Fry's, BestBuy, and Comp USA to pick up either the G7 or Copperhead. Right now, i'm leaning towards the copperhead but i'll see tomorrow how it feels in my hand and what not.

jAkUp
01-20-06, 12:45 AM
Actually, the MX1000 is 1000 DPI :)

The MX510 is 800, the 518 is up to 1600, and the G5/G7/Copperhead are 2000.

The Copperhead has the option of a higher polling rate though.

saturnotaku
01-20-06, 04:22 AM
The Copperhead has the option of a higher polling rate though.

Depending on your motherboard, this will mess with the USB ports. Most can handle a 500 MHz polling rate, some can't with the Copperhead's 1000. After you install the drivers, that's what it defaults to, and if your system can't handle that, the mouse will not move at all. Shame on Razer for not having it default to 500.

I'm giving the G7 another shot, and I'm liking it a lot more this go-round. I've taken it off my fUnc 1030 surface and it works a lot better. Laser mice do have tracking problems on it. I'm going to replace it with this:

http://www.func.net/products/archetype/index.html

It's gotten pretty high marks in reviews and it claims compatibility with laser mice.

Superfly
01-20-06, 04:33 AM
As yet the world does'nt make my ideal mouse :-(

TierMann
01-20-06, 05:02 AM
Still waiting for the one that works on brain waves?

skank
01-20-06, 05:13 AM
you won't be a better gamer with any of those mice. The MX510 is way accurate enough. I have lanned with the MX518 and the G5 and I own an MX510, there is NO difference in accuracy or response. I challenge ANYONE on these boards to beat me at CS:S ;) . The nice thing about the G5 is the very large feet on it, you don't need to use mouse skatez or similar.