Copying DVD DL

[seeker]

I need to make a copy of one of my Linux installation disks, but apparently it is DL, because it contains 7,680MBs of data, which of course, will not fit on a regular DVD. Outside of buying some new DL DVDs, is there any way to copy the layers onto 2 DVD instead? I use Nero.

[nrdstrm]

Hmm...tricky...I'm sure it could be done...I would just go buy the DL discs, they are still expensive, but have come down alot...Where I work (PC Club) we sell Memorex 5 pack for $19.99...

[crainger]

The only way you could do it for a Data disc is to find out which data is not needed. I.e. Documentation you don't need, multimedia if it exists on there. Though you'd need to do alot of trimming to get down around 4.7GB for single layer.
Another solution is to see if the data can spread across 2 DVDs. Being an installation disc this might be possible and the installation would simply ask for the second disc.
As nrdstrm said, a dual layer is probably the easiest solution.

[seeker]

Hmm...tricky...I'm sure it could be done...I would just go buy the DL discs, they are still expensive, but have come down alot...Where I work (PC Club) we sell Memorex 5 pack for $19.99...
Memorex? In another thread, where I was asking about corrupt backup copies, one member said that Memorex is among the worst brands for quality and suggested Verbatim. I really don't know what brand is best, but for backups, I would want only the best.

[seeker]

The only way you could do it for a Data disc is to find out which data is not needed. I.e. Documentation you don't need, multimedia if it exists on there. Though you'd need to do alot of trimming to get down around 4.7GB for single layer.
Another solution is to see if the data can spread across 2 DVDs. Being an installation disc this might be possible and the installation would simply ask for the second disc.
As nrdstrm said, a dual layer is probably the easiest solution.
I would prefer your latter solution, but unless I'm missing something, Nero OEM doesn't have an option to spread the layers. However, that is what I hoped to do.

[nukem]

If its a Linux install disc most of them are free online, you can just goto the website and download a two DVD version or a CD version.

[seeker]

If its a Linux install disc most of them are free online, you can just goto the website and download a two DVD version or a CD version.
No. I realize that they are available online, but I have a dialup connection and that is not practical.

[seeker010]

there are deals for verbatim 10 pack dvd+r dl for 17.99 these days. that's probably your easiest bet. otherwise you'll need to manually sort all the stuff.

[seeker]

You're the second person to point me toward Verbatim, so I guess that I will go that way. Thanks.

[Infinity666]

You're the second person to point me toward Verbatim, so I guess that I will go that way. Thanks.

Here is a guide to blank media
http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm


Media ID Quality Guide

The following list is in preference order. The best discs are near the top of the list. The discs at the bottom of the list are suitable only for a landfill. PVC is the best of all, LONGTEN is the worst of all, etc. Note: Some codes may be listed twice, done because a -R, -RW, +RW and +R by the same company may not be the same quality. The format is listed because of this.

1ST CLASS MEDIA
Almost flawless burns with 95-100% reliable results:
PVC = Pioneer (Japan) = (-R)(-RW) ... media is no longer made
MXLRG0x = Maxell (Japan) = (-R)(-RW)
YUDENT, TYG0x = Taiyo Yuden (Japan) = (-R)(+R)
MCC, MKM = Mitsubishi Chemicals (Singapore/Taiwan) = (-R)(-RW)(+R)(+RW)
TDK, TTG0x, TTH0x = TDK Corp (Taiwan/Japan) = (-R)(-RW)
SONY0xD = Sony (Japan/Taiwan) = (-R)(-RW)

2ND CLASS MEDIA
Decent discs, though not perfect, about 80-95% success rate:
RICOHJPN = Ritek or Ricoh (Taiwan) = (+R)(+RW)
PRODISC = Prodisc Media (Taiwan) = (-R)(+R)
RITEK = Ritek (Taiwan) = (+R)(-R)(-RW)(+RW)
FUJIFILM = Fuji = (-R)(+R)
OPTODISC = Optodisc = (-R)
INFODISC = Infodisc Media = (+RW)

3RD CLASS MEDIA
Quality can be very questionable, about 50-80% success rate:
LEADDATA, LD01, LD, LEDA = Lead Data = (-R)(-RW)
BEALL = Samsung BeAll (Taiwan) = (-R)(+R)
MBI = Moser Beaur (India) = (-R)(+R)(+RW)
MAM-A, MAM-E (USA, Europe) = Mitsui = (-R)
PRINCO, fake TDK = Princo (Taiwan) = (-R)(-RW)
ONIDTECH = Ul Tran Technology (Taiwan) = (-R)
MUST = Unknown OEM = (-R)
GSC001, GSC002 = Gigastorage (Taiwan) = (-R)(+R)
CMC, CMCMAG = CMC Magnetics (Taiwan) = (+R)
PHILIPS = Philips (Taiwan) = (+RW)

4TH CLASS MEDIA
Pathetic garbage media, landfill material, about 0-50% success rate:
CMC, CMCMAG = CMC Magnetics (Taiwan) = (-R)
PIODATA, PIO = LeadData/ Ritek (Taiwan) = (-R))(+R)
OPTODISC = Optodisc (Taiwan) = (+R)(+RW)
LONGTEN = Jilin Qingda ??? (China) = (-R)
YIJHAN = Yi Jhan Technology (Taiwan) = (-R)
ALL FAKE MEDIA = mostly InfoSmart (HK), E-Net (UK) and Mitsui (USA,Europe)
AN31, AN32, ANWELL, AN30 = "default" stamper code (usually Infosmart) = (-R)
AML = Advance Media Limited (Taiwan) = (-R)
INFOSMART, ISO001 = Infosmart (China) = (-R)(+R)
DAXON = BenQ/Acer (+R)(-R)
VANGUARD, VDSPMS = Unknown OEM = (-R)
UME001 = UmeDisc (Hong Kong) = (-R)
WFKA = Wealthfair Investment (China) = (-R)(+R)

ANYTHING ELSE = Unknown OEM or NEW

Can media ever change class? Sure. But it rarely happens. LD01 moved to the top 3RD class spot (got better) and RITEK media moved to the last 2ND class spot (got worse). CMC DVD+R moved up to 3RD class, and SONY0xD moved to 1ST class. But those are the only four major moves to date. It is not a quick move either, these things take much time and many tests.

What do the % numbers mean? This list is constructed from many tests on many burners from a handful of experienced people that use a lot of media. These numbers reflect the number of discs in a spindle that will give good results. For example, out of a 100 spindle of media, 1st class discs may kick out a few bad discs (0% to 5% of the media may have playback imperfections or be outright bad burns). The 2nd class media may have a dozen or so bad discs. The 3rd class discs could give you a half-spindle of duds. And the 4th class stuff can be pure trash. These are mean averages too, simple statistics math, meaning best tests and worst tests are discarded, and the middle range of tests is the basis for these numbers. You may sometimes find the rare instance where a CMC spindle will be perfect and a Taiyo Yuden spindle will be completely flawed, but those times are the exception rather than the rule (and are not part of a mean average).

Testing procedures: Burns are subject to playability/reflectivity tests (usage tests), as well as software verification. Test equipment is under controlled hardware/software environments to eliminate user variables. Burns are at least 4GB or more to test the entire length of the media.

Exceptions to the "Taiwan" rule: Not too long ago, Mitsubishi and TDK moved their operations to Taiwan. In fact, some of it apparently is being made in CMC Magnetics plants. However, because MCC and TDK are still using the same high quality methods and materials (this has been confirmed by a Verbatim spokesman), this geographic relocation has not affected the quality of their products.

Why is a specific media ID (like MCC02RG20) not shown? When a certain base media ID shares the same quality, not every single code will be listed. For example, the "RITEK" classification include RITEKG03, RITEKG04, RITEKG05, RITEKW, etc. Same for "MCC". It includes MCC01RG20, MCC02RG20, MCC003, etc. Simplicity. An "x" has often been used in place of numbers, saving space by writing merely "TYG0x" instead of creating a long list of TYG01, TYG02, TYG03, etc.


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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817130950

[TierMann]

Usually, what takes up the most space are the sources. That could be one easy way to split it up if there's a seperate source folder. You can move that onto a second disc using the same exact directory structure and most installations will prompt you for the correct disk with the missing file or atleast give you a "retry" option, at which point you just switch the disk (if it doesn't lock it on you).

Which linux distro is it anyway?

[j0j081]

Memorex? In another thread, where I was asking about corrupt backup copies, one member said that Memorex is among the worst brands for quality and suggested Verbatim. I really don't know what brand is best, but for backups, I would want only the best.
yeah Memorex sucks not to mentino they just got bought out by Imation another crappy brand. I like Verbatim and Sony cdrs and dvdrs.