OMG Kobe Bryant

[UDawg]

No biggie, don't worry about it. :)

In all fairness to Tyger, I think he just has the same issue many people have when talking about sports. In that they are trying to compare someone they see play everyday to someone who they may have not seen or only seen towards the end of their careers. This is why I refuse to label any one player as the best of all time. I'm not qualified to judge players from the 70's and before because I didn't see them play and watching a few highlights isn't enough to make a fair comparison to someone who saw all the time.

I saw Larry and Magic win almost all their championships (I missed Magic's first) and they revived the NBA and were head and shoulders above anyone at the time. But the best I ever saw was definetely Michael. When the coach of the two time defending champion Pistons (in the middle of his championships) comes out and says that, "this guy is so good that he's literally embarassing the league" and Mchale says that "it's like God came down and put on a basketball uniform". These are guys that played and coached against true all-time greats like Dr. J, Magic, Larry, Kareem, M. Malone at the peak of their careers. I would say their opinions should hold more water than your average fan.

Jordan was a phenomenon, from the moment he was drafted (or some may argue since he hit that shot against the Hoyas) like no other in any professional sport in the U.S. since I've been old enough to remember.
Being a life long Sonics fan, I had the fortune to see the Lakers many times in person through out the 80s. I was at the last game Kareem played in Seattle. Was pretty cool moment.

Speaking of Jordan's college years, my buddy has a poster he got from basketball camp in the 80s of a game shot. In that picture you see Jordan, Perkins and Worthy. I have offered him a lot of money for that poster but to no avail.

My basketball knowledge ends around 95. That is when I lost intrest in the NBA. As it is today I still don't watch the NBA. I think it is a joke and going to the games is like going to the circus. Just let me watch the game in peace PLEASE!

[Tygerwoody]

My basketball knowledge ends around 95. That is when I lost intrest in the NBA. As it is today I still don't watch the NBA. I think it is a joke and going to the games is like going to the circus. Just let me watch the game in peace PLEASE!
/e waiting for Baseketball

[UDawg]

http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/1106.html

AHAHAHA

[YOGIx213]

Nice recovery though, I give it an 8.5 :)

[Tygerwoody]

for all you haters....

http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/view?&h=105&w=140&type=x-ms-wmd&rurl=www.yikers.com%2Fvideo_kobe_scores_81_points. html&vurl=http%3A%2F%2F216.127.90.3%2Fvideos%2Fyikers_k obe_scores_81_points.wmv&back=p%3Dkobe%2B81%26sm%3DYahoo%2521%2BSearch%26fr %3DFP-tab-vid-t%26toggle%3D1%26cop%3D%26ei%3DUTF-8&turl=re2.mm-b1.yimg.com%2Fimage%2F1627064607&name=yikers_%3Cb%3Ekobe%3C%2Fb%3E_scores_%3Cb%3E81 %3C%2Fb%3E_points.wmv&no=1&tt=9&p=kobe+81&oid=41ee26abfb250198&size=4.0MB&dur=180&src=p

# Scored 81 points -- second All-Time in NBA History -- against Toronto on Jan. 22, 2006
# Selected to the 2004-05 All-NBA Third Team after averaging 27.6 ppg, 6.0 apg
# Selected to the 2003-04 All-Defensive First Team
# Selected to the 2003-04 All-NBA First Team after averaging 24.0 ppg
# Selected to the 2002-03 All-NBA First Team after averaging 30.0 ppg (second in NBA), 6.9 rpg, 5.9 apg
# Selected to the 2002-03 All-Defensive First Team
# Became youngest player in NBA history to score 10,000 points, 3/5/03 vs. Indiana
# A member of the 2002 Laker championship team averaging 26.6 ppg and 5.8 apg and in four games in the NBA Finals against the New Jersey Nets
# Selected to the 2001-2002 All-NBA First Team after averaging 25.5 ppg, 5.5 rpg and 5.5 apg
# Selected to the 2001-2002 All-Defensive Second Team
# Was named MVP of the 2002 All-Star Game after tallying 31 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists
# Western Conference starter in his fourth straight All-Star Game
# A member of the 2001 Laker championship team averaging 24.6 ppg and 5.8 apg in five games in the NBA Finals against the Philadelphia 76ers
# Selected to the 2001-2002 All-NBA Second Team
# A member of the 2000 Laker championship team averaging 15.6 ppg and 4.6 apg in five games in the NBA Finals against the Indiana Pacers
# Selected to the 1999-2000 All-NBA Second Team
# Ranked 12th in the NBA in points per game (22.5) and 16th in the NBA in minutes per game (38.2)
# Selected to the 1999-2000 NBA All-Defensive First Team and named to the 1999-2000 NBA All-Interview Second Team
# Named the NBA Player of the Week for the week ending 4/16/00, averaging 29.7 points, 7.0 assists and 6.0 rebounds
# Hit the game-winning bucket with 2.6 seconds remaining, lifting the Lakers to a 97-96 win over Phoenix on 5/10/00 in game 2 of the series
# Posted a career-high 40 points to go along with 10 rebounds and 8 assists against the Sacramento Kings on 3/12/00
# Netted 15 points as a starter in the 2000 NBA All-Star Game
# Named to the 1998-99 All-NBA Third Team after leading the Lakers in steals (1.44 spg) and ranking 2nd on the team in scoring (19.9 ppg, 15th in the NBA) and free-throw percentage (.839, 20th)
# Logged 9 double-doubles and led the Lakers in scoring in 11 games in 1999
# Scored 33 of his career-high 38 points (15-24 FG) in the 2nd half, adding 4 assists and 3 rebounds, in a 113-104 victory over the Orlando Magic on 3/21/99
# Posted 26 points and career-highs of 13 rebounds and 9 assists against the Denver Nuggets on 2/22/99
# Totaled 17 points and 4 rebounds, in his only start of the 1997-98 season, against the Portland Trail Blazers on 2/10/98
# Became the youngest All-Star in NBA history, posting a team-high 18 points and 6 rebounds, in the 1998 NBA All-Star Game in New York
# Teamed with Lisa Leslie of the WNBA's L.A. Sparks in the inaugural Nestle Crunch All-Star 2ball during All-Star Saturday
# @@Scored a career-high 33 points, hitting 3-of-5 three-pointers, and grabbed 3 rebounds against the Chicago Bulls on 12/17/97
# Has appeared in 20 career NBA Playoff games, averaging 8.5 ppg in 17.7 mpg
# Named to the 1996-97 NBA All-Rookie Second Team, averaging 7.6 ppg and 15.5 mpg in 71 games
# Won the Nestle Crunch Slam Dunk during the 1997 NBA All-Star Weekend in Cleveland and participated in the Schick Rookie Game, posting a rookie game-record 31 points and 8 rebounds
# Made his first career start, scoring 12 points, against the Dallas Mavericks on 1/28/97
# Made his NBA debut at the age of 18 years, 2 months and 11 days old, became the youngest player ever to appear in an NBA game, against the Minnesota Timberwolves on 11/3/96
# Selected by USA Today and Parade Magazine as the National High School Player of the Year as a senior at Lower Merion H.S

if that wasn't enough... lets have a look at what he is doing this year

Ranks #1 in the NBA in Points Per Game(35.7)
Ranks #6 in the NBA in Minutes Per Game(40.5)
Ranks #13 in the NBA in Minutes Played(1742.0)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Field Goals Made(523.0)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Field Goal Attempts(1173.0)
Ranks #16 in the NBA in Three-Point Field Goals Made(83.0)
Ranks #7 in the NBA in Three-Point Field Goal Attempts(242.0)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Free Throws(408.0)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts(484.0)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Points(1537.0)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Field Goals Per 48 Minutes(14.41)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Field-Goal Attempts Per 48 Minutes(32.32)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Free Throws Per 48 Minutes(11.24)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts Per 48 Minutes(13.34)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Points Per 48 Minutes(42.4)
Ranks #12 in the NBA in Total Turnovers(130.0)
Ranks #7 in the NBA in Total Efficiency Points(1180.0)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking(27.44)
Ranks #7 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking Per 48 Minutes(32.51)
Ranks #10 in the NBA in Turnovers Per Game(3.02)


I love how people bring up the fact that jordan came into the game and was better when he started. You have to remember that kobe was an 18 year old KID when he started. Jordan was what? 21? 22? Kobe's first few years of playing he was barely on the court(as a 18 yr old kid should be). Another thing I'd like to point out is that kobe has quite a bit of defensive awards..... I wont ever say he's better than jordan defensively, but hes still pretty good.

[killahsin]

Did you just compare Kobe to Jordan? Kobe will never be as good as Jordan was. Kobe is a great ball player and athlete but he is no Jordan.


amen, kobe will never be like mike. hahaha had to get that in there

but seriously. jordan magic and bird are the best bball players ever. anyone who says otherwise regardless of singular or annual statistics is fooling themselves. the talent pool during the eyars when jordan reigned supreme was much higher then this current generation of basketball. Thats debateable sure. but considering i got offered a bbal scholarship, i think i have a bit of knowledge in this field.

[killahsin]

Nique had a higher vertical than Jordan. :p
Nique had the highest vertical in the nba until harold miner came along. Wilkins could rise on anyone. jordan had the longest hangtime in the nba until harold miner. Jordan could outfly and outhang anyone. This is what made jordan so dangerous as he did not need to be facing the basket upon lift off to complete his shots. He created the perfect fade-away the game has EVER seen. Not to mention he had some of the most beautiful steal to fast break transitions ever, next to the old school pistons(I. Thomas anyone?). To me the only persons that come close to jordans package are bird and magic. To this day i believe magic could rock any guard 1v1 and 2v1. Completly shatter your ankles before the term broken ankles existed.

tyger your also forgeting that the rules of the game have changed dramatically. Simple things that you could do constantly then are now considered fouls.

[Bad_Boy]

http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/1106.html

AHAHAHA
"Kobe takes a fall after taunting another player"

Little do you know, that the fall to the back flip was apart of the taunt. :D
hell, if it was the nfl, he would of be fined. ;)

[nrdstrm]

**YAWN** - Kobe establishes another record tonight and moves up to 7th all time (most points in a season). Lakers > Phoenix FTW!!! :P

[Sazar]

amen, kobe will never be like mike. hahaha had to get that in there

but seriously. jordan magic and bird are the best bball players ever. anyone who says otherwise regardless of singular or annual statistics is fooling themselves. the talent pool during the eyars when jordan reigned supreme was much higher then this current generation of basketball. Thats debateable sure. but considering i got offered a bbal scholarship, i think i have a bit of knowledge in this field.

Oscar Robertson, Wilt Chamberlain and Russell Kareem would have had a little something to say about that perhaps.

Those guys dominated and there were numerous GOOD player back then as well. It's unfortunate that those guys don't get as much love as Jordan (damn you spike lee).