Server too busy?

[Impruv]

Is it just me or what? I constantly get an error when I try to get into a thread saying, "The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later."....Sometimes if I refresh a few times it works, sometimes it doesn't; whats going on?

[MikeC]

Our CPU cannot handle our traffic today. Sorry :o

[rewt]

Same error here.

MikeC are you positive it is CPU problem? Or could it be more related to bandwidth or # of TCP connections. Just being curious.

[Impruv]

actually it wasn't just today:p ...its been the past 2 or 3 days....just to let you know...but continue the great work; love this place (nana2)

[jAkUp]

I just noticed it today... its getting pwn3d :D

[MikeC]

Same error here.

MikeC are you positive it is CPU problem? Or could it be more related to bandwidth or # of TCP connections. Just being curious.


We've got enough bandwidth. The rising CPU usage has been a problem for some time now. Our traffic has more than doubled since we moved to this server. I am working on trying to move us to another server that can better handle our traffic. :)

[Son Goku]

I didn't notice it the past coupla days, but this evening I've been seeing this error message a bit.

/me wondering if someone has slash dotted our forum or something :eek:

Perhaps it'll be less so during the nightime hours, not sure...

[rewt]

Just mentioned TCP connections because denial of service attacks have been known to cause this error with server as well. Probably because they eat up so much resources.

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=83521

[AthlonXP1800]

Yeah I seen "Server too busy" message over 15 times today. I wonder what CPU and memory used for NvNews server? If the CPU caused a problem with the server then maybe I and other members of NvNews will be happy to donate fund for the brand spank new Athlon 64 X2 4800+ or... Athlon FX 60 CPU. :D

[MikeC]

Yeah I seen "Server too busy" message over 15 times today. I wonder what CPU and memory used for NvNews server? If the CPU caused a problem with the server then maybe I and other members of NvNews will be happy to donate fund for the brand spank new Athlon 64 X2 4800+ or... Athlon FX 60 CPU. :D


Thanks that's very kind. The website has money it's just finding a server. :) I lease this one from The Planet. I just had this one OS hardened, added more memory and ugraded my maintenace service plan and it hasn't helped.

[retsam]

have you looked into buidling your own server and just colocating it?. usually cheaper then renting and you can do the same with the server as you would as if you were renting one.

[MikeC]

have you looked into buidling your own server and just colocating it?. usually cheaper then renting and you can do the same with the server as you would as if you were renting one.

No, I haven't looked into that. I had hard time logging onto this one after they secured it. :D Good idea but I don't think I am qualified to do it.

[retsam]

ya, i hear ya. the security part is probably the hardest thing todo, when it comes to running your own highly availible server. boy, its really a hard thing to call when your two choices are server security or server performance..

[Riptide]

Glad to see it isn't just me getting these messages. They're coming up frequently, even early in the morning like right now.

[agentkay]

Actually its a little better now. An hour ago it was still as bad as last night, but its much better now.

[ENU291]

It's funny how the "server to busy" messages happen either late at night or early morning (EST for me). That must mean that our UK friends are hammering the forums while we lay in our beds!! ;)

[CaptNKILL]

I've only noticed the problems since that x1900xtx review chart was put up... I wonder if that has anything to do with it. Maybe people are hot linking to it all over the web or something.

[agentkay]

Actually it seems to be worse again. I didn´t knock on wood, and it seems that I jinxed the server. Sorry Mike! :p

[|MaguS|]

Yeah Server seems to be taking a beating lately... Have JakUp OC it!

[seeker]

This reminds me of a forum where I used to hang out. They didn't have a server problem, but a software problem. They had gotten rid of vBulletin and made their own forum software. We had a joke about server monkeys, referring to the techs in charge of the server. It wasn't really that derogatory, because they had coined the "monkey" title themselves.

[Spyke]

So what exactly is determining that the load is too high? vBulletin? It's very quick to serve the page that its too busy, obviously Apache isnt having any trouble. You can probably push the server farther then what vBulletin stops it at. If the server slows to a crawl then you have something to worry about. If there are too many connections to MySQL, then raise the limit. But at least disable that stupid vBulletin load detection scheme. If its a *nix server, it should be able to handle a lot more then what vBulletin thinks it should.

I do this stuff for a living, I host several large servers all running Linux.

Furthermore, when serving large sites, its hard to go by the load averages. You really have to know what they mean. Take for instance, some of the biggest site's servers i've seen run at a load of 10+ and higher yet experience no slowdown at all. Its not uncommon to see kernel.org running at loads of 20+ either during heavy times.

[Mudcrutch]

this forum is becoming unusable for me :(

pretty much every other page i try to load i get the server busy error.

[Spyke]

I'd say just disable the vBulletin load limit crap. See what the server really can do, rather then what vBulletin decides what it should do... If the server is worth its weight, which from the specs it seems that it should be, then everything will be just fine. The server is responding rather quickly, no doubt that it can do alot more then what that load limit junk is set at.

[DiscipleDOC]

Give them some time. They'll fix the problem.

[Nutty]

ITs not vbulletin itself, its the stats program that advert people need in order to pay money, to keep the server running. The stats program kills the server cpu, but it has to be done.