BFG 6800GT listed at 11.9MHz GPU clocks

[Vengeance]

OK I just put my new PC together yesterday. Using the ASRock 939 Dual SATA2 mobo and A64 3700+ CPU. And PC wizard lists my GPU frequency at 11.9MHz :thumbdwn: So does 3DMark 2003/2005 and my 3DMark 2k3.2k5 scores suck! My Athlon 3000+ Compaq with the same 6800GT scored better in both. Matter of fact I get about 1000 less points in 2k5 than I did on my compaq. I'm running the newest drivers from nVidia. What could be holding it back?

Help....:(

[Medion]

What power supplies are in both systems?

Also, when you migrated the HDD from the Compaq over to the new system, did you reformat? Did your Compaq even come with a Windows XP disc?

[Vengeance]

Only one system and its an 400watt Aopen psu 12v - 16a. But its the same PSU I had in my Compaq and it worked just fine. :(

[Medion]

That PSU is likely the culprit. Newer CPUs and mobos draw their power almost exclusively from the 12V rail, as opposed to speading it on the 5V, 3.3V, and 12V rails. As such, with a newer system (even with that mobo's 20-pin connector) you'll want at least 22A on the 12V rail for your PSU.

The power draw on the 6800GT is roughly the same as or more than a 7800GT, and that's recommended to be 12V@20A for a stock clocked card.

[Vengeance]

:( thanks

[Vengeance]

Also, when you migrated the HDD from the Compaq over to the new system, did you reformat? Did your Compaq even come with a Windows XP disc?

Yes I did a clean install, I used nlite to go into my HP win XP home disk and got rid of all the HP crap and made a new disk. :thumbsup:

[jolle]

You got the AGP driver installed and working? Forceware lists it as running AGPx8?
I think that is a comon thing on these boards otherwise. got one myself..
Cant remember with one was better to install, the one AsRock Supply or the one off ULis website..
Unless its PCI-E that is..
I noticed the AGP driver wont work under x64 with 8x.xx drivers, but they did with 7x.xx..

[jAkUp]

Yes make sure you install the chipset drivers.

[tieros]

It's a bug, not an issue with your PC. I have a BFG 6800GT OC, and 3DM06 reports it as 11.9MHz, too. I never found a cause for it, but other utilities show the correct clock. No idea about why your scores are lower, though.

[shabby]

Overclock it to 12mhz! ;)

[Vengeance]

Overclock it to 12mhz! ;)


That made me chuckle. :D :thumbsup:

[Vengeance]

You got the AGP driver installed and working? Forceware lists it as running AGPx8?
I think that is a comon thing on these boards otherwise. got one myself..
Cant remember with one was better to install, the one AsRock Supply or the one off ULis website..
Unless its PCI-E that is..
I noticed the AGP driver wont work under x64 with 8x.xx drivers, but they did with 7x.xx..


Yes Forceware lists it at AGPx8...so all is good? Going to have to install some games and try em out. ;)

[snowmanwithahat]

as for it being listed as 11.9mhz... don't pay attention to that, 3dmark never gets it right

[Vengeance]

as for it being listed as 11.9mhz... don't pay attention to that, 3dmark never gets it right


Yeah I was looking around at Futuremark in the Orb and theres a lot of people with 6800's that are listed at 11-12MHz and in the forums someone else had asked about it and he was told its a bug in 3DMark.

And as far as my low scores in 3DMark 2k3 - 2k6 I have fixed it. I un-installed all the driver chipset/AGP/PCI to AGP/NV drivers.....over and over today and ran benchmark after benchmark.....:( But on one of the total driver installs I must have hit the sweet spot. I really can't wait till I have the money to go PCIe. Because this sucked :thumbdwn:

But heres my new scores. :eek: All of them are way over what I used to get on my XP 3000+ system...

3DMark 2k1 22364 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8902632)
3DMark 2k3 13003 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4630759)
3DMark 2k5 5860 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1816797)
3DMark 2k6 2585 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=138146)

Not the greatest, but they are my best. :D

[Mr_LoL]

Those are really good scores for a 6800gt. Congrats.

[joshua7]

It's a bug, not an issue with your PC. I have a BFG 6800GT OC, and 3DM06 reports it as 11.9MHz, too. I never found a cause for it, but other utilities show the correct clock. No idea about why your scores are lower, though.

Same here.

[joshua7]

...

3DMark 2k1 22364 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8902632)
3DMark 2k3 13003 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4630759)
3DMark 2k5 5860 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1816797)
3DMark 2k6 2585 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=138146)

Not the greatest, but they are my best. :D

Not bad. Mine for comparison:
03: 14050 (445/1180)
05: 6327 (450/1240)
06: 2739 (420/1150)

Cpu: 2400mhz

[ywytyr]

And as far as my low scores in 3DMark 2k3 - 2k6 I have fixed it. I un-installed all the driver chipset/AGP/PCI to AGP/NV drivers.....over and over today and ran benchmark after benchmark.....:( But on one of the total driver installs I must have hit the sweet spot. I really can't wait till I have the money to go PCIe. Because this sucked :thumbdwn:


Do you remember exactly what you did? Done the same many times and my score in 3dmark06 is still 1200:(

Does your uli agp loction say pci for you? (When right clikcing and selecting properties )



My rig is
asrock dual sata2
amd x24200
geforce 6800 nu
3x512 mb ram

[Vengeance]

Do you remember exactly what you did? Done the same many times and my score in 3dmark06 is still 1200:(

Does your uli agp loction say pci for you? (When right clikcing and selecting properties )



My rig is
asrock dual sata2
amd x24200
geforce 6800 nu
3x512 mb ram

Hey I know you from PC Perspective I had replyed in your thread here..

http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=414860

I also saw where you quoted me at OCWforum. ;)
Well lets see yesterday was long man. I was really getting mad at why in the hell my freaking Compaq Athlon XP 3000+ was beating this new A64 beast I had built on my own. But its just that some of the AGP settings are really flaky. One quick question for ya. Go into your control panel and look and see if you have a PCI to AGP driver. I found out yesterday that it is very important.
I did so many reinstalls yesterday its not funny.
What I would suggest for you now is to go download the ULi Integrated driver 2.13
(ftp://www.uli.com.tw/driver/Integrated213.zip)
And go download Driver Cleaner, google for it. Now un-install your nvidia drivers, don't reboot yet. Run Driver cleaner to get rid of all the nvidia drivers. next go into your control panel and uninstall you AGP driver, and your PCI to AGP driver. \\REBOOT// Windows will try to install a VGA driver for your new hardware...:p meaning your 6800. Stop it, hit cancel. Now install the ULi Integrated driver 2.13, you don't need the USB if you have XP SP2. But install all the rest. \\REBOOT// once again cancel windows from install a new VGA driver for your card and just install your new nvidia driver. \\REBOOT// and hopfully all will be well.
To the best of my knowledge thats about what I did.
Oh I also went into my bios and under the advanced settings, under the AGP setting I set it like this..

CPU NB Link Speed 1000MHz
CPU NB Link Width 16Bit
NB - SB Link Speed 1000MHz
NB - SB Link Width 16Bit

These settings were on "Auto" by default. Someone posted at PC perspective to set them as I did. I did some reading on it. And for higher end video cards its best to have it set like I did.

This worked for me....I hope it helps you. Good luck.

[Vengeance]

Do you remember exactly what you did? Done the same many times and my score in 3dmark06 is still 1200:(

Does your uli agp loction say pci for you? (When right clikcing and selecting properties )


When I now go into my Device Manager, under System devices all the way to the bottom it now reads ULi AGP v3.0 Controller.

And before if I remember right it only said something like AGP Controller.
Also something else to set in your Bios is under advanced settings for Primary Graphics Adapter mine was set to PCI by default. So I set it to AGP.
I mean I am useing a AGP card.

[Vengeance]

ywytyr I have noticed you have threads every where about this. And I noticed your running Win XP 64bit? I'm not, I'm just useing reg 32bit windows XP. So everything I posted above may not help you at all.

[jolle]

CPU NB Link Speed 1000MHz
CPU NB Link Width 16Bit
NB - SB Link Speed 1000MHz
NB - SB Link Width 16Bit

These settings were on "Auto" by default. Someone posted at PC perspective to set them as I did. I did some reading on it. And for higher end video cards its best to have it set like I did.

Those are about the HyperTransport bus, dividers. (Incase anyone missed it)
if you OC the FSB/HTT to for example 250mhz from 200, you should set BOTH to 800, since that means a 4 Divider (1000 = 5 divider, 200x5) and you get 250x4 = 1000mhz, OCing you want to avoid going above 1000mhz on the HTT for stability..

Here is a 939Dual FAQ which is sortof handy:
http://www.ocworkbench.com/ocwbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=30;t=005271;p=0
That board has a special "AsRock" section with good info on this mobo (and other Asrock ones).

[ywytyr]

Thanks for your detailed advice!
No i am not running XP64, I just tried it to see if I managed to get an ok score there.
My device was listed as ULi AGP v3.0 Controller. However, when right clicking on this location is pci. Is that true for you as well?

I tried to follow your detailed instructions regardin the uninstalation process. But I only had agp controller listed not pci to agp. I got an error message when trying to unistall the agp controller, but the uninstallation process finished regardles.

When I now try to install the uli driver, agp drivers is not listed in the installation menu. I think windows try to install some agp stuff automaticly.

Remeber reading something about extracting the uli drivers exe file and do a manual install. Will look into this.

[Vengeance]

Thanks for your detailed advice!
No i am not running XP64, I just tried it to see if I managed to get an ok score there.
My device was listed as ULi AGP v3.0 Controller. However, when right clicking on this location is pci. Is that true for you as well?

I tried to follow your detailed instructions regardin the uninstalation process. But I only had agp controller listed not pci to agp. I got an error message when trying to unistall the agp controller, but the uninstallation process finished regardles.

When I now try to install the uli driver, agp drivers is not listed in the installation menu. I think windows try to install some agp stuff automaticly.

Remeber reading something about extracting the uli drivers exe file and do a manual install. Will look into this.


Yes mine says PCI bus 0, device 5, function 0 I think thats normal.

[Vengeance]

Those are about the HyperTransport bus, dividers. (Incase anyone missed it)
if you OC the FSB/HTT to for example 250mhz from 200, you should set BOTH to 800, since that means a 4 Divider (1000 = 5 divider, 200x5) and you get 250x4 = 1000mhz, OCing you want to avoid going above 1000mhz on the HTT for stability..

Here is a 939Dual FAQ which is sortof handy:
http://www.ocworkbench.com/ocwbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=30;t=005271;p=0
That board has a special "AsRock" section with good info on this mobo (and other Asrock ones).

Yes I read that, some good info. I set them to 1000 because for the time being I'm not planing on OCing the CPU. Hell I lived with a locked Compaq XP3000+ for over 3 years. Going to this A64 3700+ is like going from a Pinto to a Vette. :D So I'm fine on the stock speeds........for now.:bleh:
And another reason I set them myself is I have read from a few other people not to trust the ASRock bios. If it says "Auto" just go ahead and set it. So...I did. :p