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mavrick813
02-19-06, 03:25 PM
Edited to Fix clickies.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811133154
Thermaltake XASER, Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813136166
DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 SLI-DR Expert ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817711001
OCZ OCZ600ADJSLI 600W Power Supply - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820227219
OCZ Gold Edition 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103608
AMD Athlon 64 FX60 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Dual Core Processor - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16835106069
Thermaltake CL-P0257 Blue orb II CPU Cooler for LGA775 & K8 - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813999251
ZALMAN ZM-MFC1 Fan Controller Panel - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130237
eVGA Geforce 7800GTX 256-P2-N529-AX Video Card - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16829102188
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic Sound Card - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144423
Western Digital Caviar SE16 400GB 3.5" Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144160
Western Digital Raptor 74GB 3.5" Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106992
LITE-ON Black IDE Combo Drive Model SOHC-5236V BK RTL - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827131352
PLEXTOR Black IDE Slot Load DVD Burner Model PX-716AL/SW - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16821104104
MITSUMI Black Internal 8 in 1 Floppy Drive Model FA404A/404M BLK - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16836121120
Logitech Z-5500 5.1 Speaker - Retail

http://www.xoxide.com/wolf-claw-ii-keyboard.html
Wolf Claw II - Ultimate Gaming Keyboard

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2135,CONTENTID=10716
Logitech® G7 Laser Cordless Mouse

Q
02-19-06, 03:35 PM
None of your newegg links work. They must have been from your basket. You will make newegg very happy, though.

I think you'll have a very, very formidable first system. However, you might want to wait for the 7900 series to release first. It's only a month away, and you might get a lot more bang for your buck. Looks like a fine system, though.

npras42
02-19-06, 03:57 PM
Yeah since you seem to be going for the "money-no-object approach" :D, maybe it would be better to wait for the refresh of graphics cards. Also, again if you do want to save some cash, the AMD X2 4800+ is much much greater value for money. Obviously not quite as good as that FX60 but still a great processor for 2/3 price.

I'm not a big fan of that kind of case, but it does look good quality so you shouldnt see any problems in the build... I wouldn't recommend it for your first build but maybe you should save up for a bit of watercooling and then you'll be able to get some really good overclocking results.

Rakeesh
02-19-06, 03:58 PM
The reason those links don't work is because they were pasted to another vbulletin or similar web board, and since they were long they were abbreviated automatically after they were posted (hence the three periods.) Then they were copied and pasted directly from the post page rather than the edit page.

BTW I would stay away from those claw things, they are somewhat of a gimmick.

Q
02-19-06, 04:02 PM
The reason those links don't work is because they were pasted to another vbulletin or similar web board, and since they were long they were abbreviated automatically after they were posted (hence the three periods.) Then they were copied and pasted directly from the post page rather than the edit page.


You know, if I paid any attention to anything...I would have noticed that.

AlphaWolf_Hk strikes again. And the claw thing does get mixed reviews, most saying its gimicky.

Rakeesh
02-19-06, 04:40 PM
WRT the claws, I haven't tried the wolf claw myself, however I have played with something like that at a fry's electronics, and I always found myself needing to move my hands around more often since you don't have all available keys on that.

Some people don't like GUI's for the fact that you have to move your right hand from your mouse to your keyboard and back often.

The same thing applies for the claw things, except now you have to do it with both hands instead of just one. With a GUI that isn't much of a problem, but in games it is since you don't have all of the time in the world to react suddenly.

superklye
02-19-06, 04:51 PM
Go with the Saitek keyboards for a much better keyboarding experience. I recommend the Eclipse because the backlight actually comes throught letters on the keys, unlike the Gamer board and the additional keypad thing with the Gamer keyboard is practically useles.

Besides that, I think the FX-60 is a complete waste of money (as is the 4800) as you can get equal speeds from a 4400 with minor OCing at almost 1/3 the price of the FX, but whatev...that's my opinion and it's your money. :) Looks like a biggity badass system. Enjoy. :D

jAkUp
02-19-06, 04:57 PM
I would wait until next month to see how the Tarantula fares until getting a keyboard :)

But, superklye, if you plan on OC'ing the FX60, then its worth it ;)

saturnotaku
02-19-06, 04:57 PM
There are quite a few things in there that would be total wastes of money. To start, the FX-60 is entirely pointless for the reasons superklye posted above. Most 4400+ processors can be OC'ed to FX-60 speeds with minor clocking on stock cooling.

Also, don't get a Plextor burner. Stick with NEC or Lite-On. They're cheaper and better.

The G7 mouse sucks. I tried two of them, and they're no good for gaming at all. They still have the lag inherent in all wireless mice. Best to stick with something wired.

Also, you probably should just wait for the GeForce 7900. Or, if you absolutely must have something right now, you may want to consider going with Crossfire since you can use a pair of 512 MB cards instead of the 256 MB 7800 ones you're looking at now. Only thing is, Crossfire doesn't quite hasn't had as much time to mature as SLI. So, that's completely your call.

superklye
02-19-06, 05:26 PM
I would wait until next month to see how the Tarantula fares until getting a keyboard :)

But, superklye, if you plan on OC'ing the FX60, then its worth it ;)
I don't know man. $1300 just so you can mess with the multiplier? Even if I was rich, I don't think I could justify it, but that's just me.

slick
02-19-06, 05:33 PM
I agree with superklye. Unless you're wiping your ass with money, I'd get an X2 4800+ or 4400+. G71 (7900) is coming out in less than a month, so I'd wait and get that aswell.

mavrick813
02-19-06, 06:29 PM
Hey,

Thnx for the feedback. I fixed the clickies and was wondering a couple things. I have played with the G7 at my local Best buy they had it running on a laptop their, It seemed formidable and very comfortable compared to the G5 they had set-up next to it on a Sony Vaio. I did alot of review searches and it seemed solid...

The Wolfclaw also has a ton of Excellent reviews, Much better then the Logitech G15? And I looked at the Saitek and it just seemed Gaudy to me. being that I dont' play many FPS games. I play mostly MMORPG I thought the Wolfclaw would be the better choice. Also my Desk has a second keyboard drawer (Custom desk Mod) so simply opening the lower drawer gives me access to a Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard that came with a Gateway my Bro bought.

As for the FX-60, I am being told that most are being able to OC it to 3.0-3.2 on both cores with Stock HSF. That's with minor adjusting. being that I have never built a computer before and I have $4000.00 laying around I figured i'd go for it.

I was under the impression the 7800GTXs I chose would be able to go SLI. I have 2 of them in my basket atm for a total of $989ish shipped. I want to stay away from ATI. I have had some bad experiences with the 9800Pro, and am not very comfortable with them. I was avoiding the 512 version of the 7800 because they take up 2 slots and I don't think it will work with my Mobo choice to run them both in SLI and have the Soundcard. Especially with my cooling options.

I am really avoiding Watercooling ATM because as I said this will be my first build ever and I would rather not play with another Big feature as I'm not very confident.

On a side note being that I want to set these 7800's up in SLI, would it be a good idea to install one at first boot, get everything up and running, get all my drivers up and then install the second when I install the soundcard, or would it be better to have both of them in for the First boot?

Newb question: Tarantula? Link to the 7900s? Also, I have an older Dell 19"CRT with a serial plug, Do they sell adapters to attach to these Vid cards?

Marvel_us
02-19-06, 06:44 PM
With your board you should be able to have SLI dual slot cards and fit a sound card. I think Jakup has that.

7900 is nvidia's new top card coming out supposedly, March 9th.

mavrick813
02-19-06, 06:46 PM
Marvel,
Hmmm, just looked at his Pics. now I'm contimplating. But if I get 2 512s in SLI that is going to push me way over $4000. and I just blew my $3000 budget with the list I made.

Marvel_us
02-19-06, 07:04 PM
Up to you really. I honestly think you should get a cheaper CPU and wait for the 7900s. That should somewhat even out the price. Also, depending on if the rumored specs are true, you'd get more performance from having SLIed 7900s than have an FX-60 w/ 7800s. Just my opinion though, the decision is yours.

mavrick813
02-19-06, 08:38 PM
Any idea of the MSRP on the 7900s? I mean if their anythign like the prices of the 7800GTX 512s right now, I wouldn't be able to afford it anyway.

Marvel_us
02-19-06, 09:11 PM
According to rumors they're suppose to be competitive with X1900XTX prices, so around 599-650. Nothing official yet.

lee63
02-19-06, 09:41 PM
Any idea of the MSRP on the 7900s? I mean if their anythign like the prices of the 7800GTX 512s right now, I wouldn't be able to afford it anyway.Dude, you can buy my 512s for the price of those 256s when the 7900s come out, anyway I would get better cooling for that FX-60, dont believe everything you read, try and find a place where you can check out the stepping's before you buy the CPU, check this thread out http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=86764&highlight=FX-60+steppings

Good luck(nana2)