View Full Version : Will the 7900GTX be a single-slot card?
Maverickman
02-20-06, 05:55 PM
Now that specs for the 7900GTX are set, let's see if it will also be a single-slot solution card like the 7800GTX. I haven't heard yet if this will be the case, but let's hope Nvidia follows this path. The $499 price point and single-slot would be two advantages the 7900GTX would have over the X1900XTX.
Uberpwnage
02-20-06, 06:11 PM
who says "the specs are set"? I know the inquirer is being negative, but i still have faith that 7900 will be 32 pipes. I cant believe your jumping all over that bs about it being slower then the x1900. Nvidia wouldnt do that to us, they cant.
at this point I'm more concerned with it's performance than if it's dual slot or not. video cards run hot unless you are running water cooling then you should expect to have that extra space free for the video card to use.
The only place the specs have been set is by Mr. FUD himself, and I'm sure he'll respin them as often as neccessary to keep the checks coming.
I'm confident that nVidia will produce a card worth buying come March. They tend to keep quiet when they have an ace up their sleeves (G70), and bluff badly when they don't (NV30). If they start releasing press notices talking about rendering Toy Story in real time on the new card, then I'll worry :)
7900GT will a be a single slot (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=907) solution but don'thave any info on the GTX.
CaptNKILL
02-21-06, 03:56 AM
7900GT will a be a single slot (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=907) solution but don'thave any info on the GTX.
Awesome! Thanks for the link :)
If that hasnt been posted elsewhere already, you should email that to MikeC. First pics of a 7900 are deffinitely front page news worthy IMO :)
The audio connector mentioned in the article sure looks like another fan connector to me :)
Someone needs to measure the core and then apply sufficient magic to reverse engineer the number of transistors, and then an additional layer of magic to come up with the architecture.
Unless, of course, this is just another picture of an existing card with a few well placed smudges to hide what it really is :-)
I'm expecting the same 7800 512GTX's cooler for the 7900GTX.
mikechai
02-21-06, 08:54 AM
I'm expecting the same 7800 512GTX's cooler for the 7900GTX.
Bingo!
agentkay
02-21-06, 10:52 AM
The Dailytech article (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=907) says that its the 7900GT, but the die itself looks just like the 7600GT like in this older vrzone article (http://www.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=3219)
Isnīt the 7600GT the G73, a seperate die, and not just a lasercut G71?
If the Dailytech article is really correct, then I donīt know how they squeezed 20 or 24 pipes into the same sized die just like the 12 piped 7600. Thats impossible. lol The size of the PCB do indicate at least 256MB ram and a 256bit bus.
Something is weird here.
Redeemed
02-21-06, 11:52 AM
Something is weird here.
I'd appreciate that you not call me names. ;)
Yeah, I'm going for the 32 pipe specs that are floating around my self, with the GT being only 24.
withmyshadow
02-21-06, 12:40 PM
let me get this straight,
7900GT has the same number of pipeline and core clock as 7800GTX, so what's the die shrink for? lower price only?
someone said if nv is going for low price that means their performance doesn't measure up. I hope that's not true this time.
A 7900GT with 32 pipelines and 8 disabled for use in 7900GTX would seem like a big waste of silicon.The huge core clock difference(200MHz) between 7900GT and 7900GTX indicates that 7900 GTX has indeed 24 pipelines.I guess we'll see.:)
walterman
02-21-06, 03:09 PM
This is what i've been thinking:
A)
7900 GT 24 pipes 450MHz / 256MB 1.2 GHz 1.4ns
7900 GTX 24 pipes 650MHz / 512MB 1.6 GHz 1.1ns
44% faster core & 33% faster memory
Prolly you'll be able to overclock the GT to 550/1.4GHz, so,
the difference will be: 18% faster core & 14% faster memory.
B)
7900 GT 24 pipes 450MHz / 256MB 1.2 GHz 1.4ns
7900 GTX 32 pipes 650MHz / 512MB 1.6 GHz 1.1ns
92% faster core & 33% faster memory
I think that the option 'A' is the most probable, cause it's more
balanced between both GT/GTX models. I can't imagine a GTX
beeing almost 2x times faster than the GT, like in the option 'B'.
If nvidia releases 'A' prolly i'll get a GT, due to it will be at least
100$ cheaper, & with a nice overclock, the performance gap
will be small. If nvidia releases 'B', then, hell, i want one :D
withmyshadow
02-21-06, 03:39 PM
all signs indicate A) now.
I think ATI has won this round fair and square and nV is prepared to move some low to mid range cards in big numbers for the upcoming vista.
I still don't understand why R580 can be that fast considedering it's built on the same process. what's the one thing in that design that beats G70? anyone?
agentkay
02-21-06, 03:44 PM
I wouldnīt declare a winner just yet, they might have still something hidden what we donīt know. Real die pictures of the 7900 (unlike dailytech ones) will answer a lot of speculations.
all signs indicate A) now.
I think ATI has won this round fair and square
the cat is not out of the bag yet!
zoomy942
02-21-06, 04:04 PM
yeah, nvidia is amazing at keeping secrets:) we will see what happens
Redeemed
02-21-06, 04:05 PM
Though "A" does seem more likely, how much faster would the cards be over the 7800s? Doesn't seem like they'd be MUCH faster. Then again, isn't that all nVidia really needs? Just a slight notch up in performance? After all:
nVidia COULD be releasing the 7900GT and GTX not to just reclaim, or atleast remain in, the performance lead- but to test out their 90nm process. Remember the last time they jumped head-first into a new processes? I still have nightmares over it. ;) They might just be using the G71 to "test the waters" before they "dive in" with G80/NV50.
Secondly, the X1900XTX doesn't entirely smoke the 512MB GTX. In many cases the 512MB GTX can still hold its own. Is the XTX more future-proof than the GTX? I believe so. But we aren't going to see many extremly pixel-shader-intensive titles before G80/NV50. So a slight jump in performance BEYOND the 512MB GTX is all nVidia really needs, just enough so that they can keep up.
This way, if their 90nm process works out as they desire, they can go on with G80/NV50 being 32, 48, 64, or God knows how many pipes it'll be.
Does any body see what I'm saying?
walterman
02-21-06, 04:24 PM
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29821
BFG 7900 GTX 512 to launch on the 9th of March
$600 !!!
Man, think that i was really wrong. Lol.
GlowStick
02-21-06, 06:25 PM
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=915
Seems more real info
all signs indicate A) now.
I think ATI has won this round fair and square and nV is prepared to move some low to mid range cards in big numbers for the upcoming vista.
I still don't understand why R580 can be that fast considedering it's built on the same process. what's the one thing in that design that beats G70? anyone?
This round is the 7x00 series vs X1k series. Having the lead in only the high end market and no where else isn't exactly winning
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=915
Seems more real info
If thats the case it seems that it wouldnt be that much faster than the current 512mb GTX. Its just an extra 100mhz on the core built on a 90nm process.
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