View Full Version : I want to try MMORPG, but which one?
nekrosoft13
02-24-06, 08:51 AM
What MMORPG would you recommend to someone that never played a MMORPG before?
Something that comes with free trail would be good. I do play RPG games, mostly off-line, Guild Wars is the only RPG that i played online.
I did D&D Online beta testing, and must say its was pretty good, was actually considering to buy it, unless they is something better available.
World of Warcraft is the king. Don't get it unless you want your life sucked out of you. I know, I have 2 60 toons.
Ninjaman09
02-24-06, 09:41 AM
WoW.
|MaguS|
02-24-06, 09:43 AM
Its all dependant on your taste... if you want a game you can play alone most of the time get WoW, Its basically Solo Player Heaven. If you liked D&D's gameplay then try it out, all MMORPGs basically come with a free 30days anyway.
Im personally playing D&D untill Vanguards releases...
Ninjaman09
02-24-06, 09:55 AM
WoW has the option of soloing but you can't solo once you hit 60, and you don't have access to the best gear for your level if you aren't running instances. You want to find a good guild and stick with them. "Play alone most of the time"...I lol'd. Of the 35 played days on my character, I've probably played alone for about 1 or 2 of them.
|MaguS|
02-24-06, 09:57 AM
Thats you but the game is basically open arms to solo players... you can go from 1 to 60 solo... thats bad enough for me...
darkrider01
02-24-06, 10:19 AM
My vote would be for Guild Wars. It's very simple and has a very good and helpful community behind it. Stay away from City of Heroes and City of Villains as they have a player base of a-holes. EVE Online has a very good player base, but I will admit it's complicated. Easy and first time sounds like Guild Wars to me.
glObalist
02-24-06, 11:16 AM
WoW.
Yes it's true some players have solo'ed their way to the max level in a matter of days, but it was only the hardcore ones who nonetheless turned to all-out raiding (with a guild) as soon as they were done leveling.
You'll find some truly good fun and company when you play this game and meet new people, well I did anyway.
Ninjaman09
02-24-06, 11:29 AM
Guild Wars isn't an MMORPG. It's a fun game though.
You cannot solo to 60 unless you choose to ignore a great deal of what the game has to offer. You level faster and more effectively, with better gear, by grouping with players. Of course you could just solo grind mobs day in and day out but you'll level slower, have crappy gear, and be a loner with nothing to do when you hit max level. Meanwhile, for those that chose to participate in the game world, level 60 is just the beginning for their characters. Character progression does not stop at 60.
Why is a MMORPG somehow flawed if you can solo your way to max level? It seems to me if a game gives you the most choice possible...then that is a good thing. What exactly is the problem? If you level through group-play, good for you. If you solo, good for you.
Do people just feel that an MMORPG is supposed to be mainly a place to gather with online friends and build a community? If so, WoW does nothing to prevent you from doing this...and it also doesn't force you to do this (except, I hear, at the end ...I play off and on with a lowly lvl 20 warrior).
I would think then, that the hardcore social players still have plenty to do in WoW.
As far as WoW goes, the game starts at 60. If you are in a competent guild, then it shouldn't be too long before all that crap armor and weapons you wasted time getting in lower levels is useless because they are soon replaced with much better stuff from end game instances or high end pvp. You can level to 60 solo and still get most of all the important quests done.
My main toon ran a bunch of different instances and did all this and that on the way and took me forever to get 60. He is now a pve concentric toon and runs molten core (end game pve instance) weekly and have 6/8 of my tier 1 epic armor. All the gear I wear now was attained post-60.
I basically soloed my way to 60 with my alternate toon. I knew that whatever I got from the lower level grouping would be replaced. I may have ran 2 instances with him prior to 60. This toon is pvp based and is going for the gear that you get from doing the battlegrounds and attaining rank. If you want to stay solo, then I recommend focusing on pvp instead of end game pve.
Supposedly with the next patch Blizzard is implementing class specific epic armor sets aimed at the solo guy. I think you get them through quests. Some are solo; some require at most a 10 man group (max group size is a 40 man raid.) These sets are not comparable to the 8 piece 'tier 1 or 2' epic sets as they are 5 pieces and set up for pve and pvp stats, whereas the tier 1 I know is pve based. The tier 2 (best set for your class in the game besides the uber pvp set) is more pvp friendly as far as the bonuses.
Hope I didn't confuse you too much.
btw - If you go with WoW, roll a toon the Horde side. The pretty little Alliance outnumber us an average of 2 to 1 which really imbalances the game. On my server, Stormrage, we are outnumbered 2.5 to 1.
Roliath
02-28-06, 02:01 PM
I personally hate to admit this, but since I've bought WoW i haven't played another game. Except for FEAR, and that was just to show a buddy of mine what a 512MB 7800GTX can do.
WoW is a GREAT game, and WILL suck the life out of you...
Ninjaman09
02-28-06, 02:04 PM
I haven't touched another game for months now, except Mega Man X Collection.
My guild just downed Vaelestrasz the Corrupt on Friday, and we're currently working on Broodlord Lashlayer. He'll be dead by the end of the week. Blackwing Lair is so awesome. Ahn'Qiraj just opened up on our server, and we took out the first two bosses in the 20-man side (Ruins) last night, it was a blast.
Tygerwoody
02-28-06, 03:28 PM
If you want to try out a MMORPG here is my opinion.
WoW is a great MMORPG for starters, but keep in mind while its a good game, its not very good at being an MMORPG.
Guild Wars isn't even an MMORPG, but merely a fun game.
Everquest 1 and Dark Age of Camelot are very old MMORPG's but VERY solid and good. These two games are basically the standard. Dated graphics. Probably not worth playing now because they are so old, but still right fun. They will at least show you what an MMO is suppose to play like.
I've played about 8 MMORPG's and personally I don't think there is anything good out there that is new anyway. Vanguard is what I am looking forward to. :cool:
nekrosoft13
02-28-06, 05:23 PM
well i don't want WOW, as i never liked Warcraft plus WOW looks to cartoony for me.
I want to try a some MMO thats looks decent too.
do you think i should wait for Vanguard (SP?)
nrdstrm
02-28-06, 05:38 PM
well i don't want WOW, as i never liked Warcraft plus WOW looks to cartoony for me.
I want to try a some MMO thats looks decent too.
do you think i should wait for Vanguard (SP?)
Yes, and that is all I can say about that...
|MaguS|
03-01-06, 08:23 AM
I would say try out DDO, Im having a blast with it. While its not a "true" MMORPG but more along the lines of Guild Wars the community is very friendly right from the start and the quests feel alot better then most MMOs out there since they are all instance based and are unique. Oh another plus is that theres not many delivery quests...
Im probably going to play DDO till Vanguards.
Tyr-Sog
03-01-06, 09:14 AM
Actually you can solo in WOW post 60 just fine. You can just obtain decent gear through BG's or patterns for a trade working(leatherworking/tailoring etc.) that are bought off the AH. It all really depends on what you want to do in the game. PVE, you're better off being in a guild. Personally I just enjoy the pvp aspect(instance get boring to me fast) of the game so for world pvp, ganking, etc, you're fine playing solo and obtaining the decent gear through lame BG's. Or even pickup groups for instances/raids here and there.
Boogalo
03-30-06, 11:52 AM
its hard to beat original EQ as far as depth of content is concerned. i play EQ1 and am in a high-end raiding guild and have a blast. i only log on to raid though, my goof off time is filled soling and questing in WoW.
|MaguS|
03-30-06, 12:13 PM
I wouldn't recommend EQ1 for anyone now. Its WAY too hard to start up since most of the people playing are all high levels or the people you do meet are all twinks that have far better equipment then you would be able to get.
EQ1 is dead for anyone whos not playing it, only long time players or returning players. Heck, I even played EQ1 for 5 years but two years of not playing has put me too far behind to even start up again.
Tygerwoody
03-30-06, 03:16 PM
I wouldn't recommend EQ1 for anyone now. Its WAY too hard to start up since most of the people playing are all high levels or the people you do meet are all twinks that have far better equipment then you would be able to get.
EQ1 is dead for anyone whos not playing it, only long time players or returning players. Heck, I even played EQ1 for 5 years but two years of not playing has put me too far behind to even start up again.
EQ Emu FTW!
I know you despise emulators MaguS, but the EQ ones are very very fun. ;) . I've given over $600 to play Everquest live, so I think I am entitled to my emulators. :)
MustangSVT
03-30-06, 05:22 PM
Don't mean to steal your thread, but I have a similar thread to the original poster.
I've been thinking of getting hooked up on a "real" MMORPG this summer instead of getting Guild Wars Factions. First of all, I've never played any MMORPG, since I've never found myself wanting to pay. Things haven't necessarily changed now, but I saw Vanguard screens and heard how it's gonna be and it's gotten me interested.. The only experience with online RPGs I have is Baldur's Gate II, Diablo II, Neverwinter Nights and Guild Wars.
What I'm looking for is a evolving world where like you can meet friends when you travel around a massive world, hook up and go looting some crazy areas, be afraid of dying, good teamwork, lots of interaction with the world. Guild Wars is more of like upgraded Diablo II and I love it a lot, but I kinda liked Neverwinter Nights online more. NWN had different modules so the world kinda changed in a way, the level cap of 20 and then 40 in the Hordes expansion was quite hard to achieve, and you were afraid of dying, and on a good server (over 30 people) you could meet up randomly with people and become friends with all of them, you could go hunting, make a campfire and cook food, go into the forest and hunt a dragon. I loved NWN a lot, cause it had MANY features, like you could meet up with a DM who would appear in the form of like a god, dragons were big and would you make go crazy with the fear, so on, and items were quite unique and rare.
Guild Wars doesn't offer this as much. The instanced areas mean you don't find any friends "along" the way, but you don't run into people who are farming the area you wanted to go hunting in. The world is quite big, but it seems a bit more linear than NWN which I don't like. In NWN you could go through the forest, and come to a place where the road split up, and you could decide to go north, south, west, or cut through the forest and see what happens, etc.
I'm looking for something like this but with an evolving world, I've always had the dream of playing an RPG like that, where you can meet friends "along" the way, very explorable, you can go hunting etc. At the same time, I don't want to go through a insane level grind (Guild Wars did well on this, no crappy level grind IMO, and NWN only the first 5 levels were a grind), and I don't want to go to all the good areas and always find out that there's people there already.
I know there's couple of people here who are beta testing Vanguard here I think. Would you say Vanguard offers this? I don't want any specific info as I know you're under an NDA, but just a simple yes or no where Vanguard is what I'm looking for. Or is there another MMORPG coming that offers this?
Oh and please don't say World of WarCraft. I've played that at a friend's house. It looks like a good game, but I don't have time for it, I'm not really into its graphics, and just simply not interested in it.
Oh and another thing. I did play Lineage II on an unnoficial server which had a lot of people, and it was just pure crap. I played it for about a week or two, and the level grind was unbearable, the graphics were awful and blocky, and there was no point to it (just run around and kill people or animals), and the motion animations were the worst I've ever seen.
Mr. Hunt
03-30-06, 05:51 PM
I would say Guild Wars... some will say it isn't a real MMO, but whatever... it would be a great first because you don't have to pay monthly, so you could play it forever for no extra cost... not only that, but it is probably the best MMO I have played (and payed for), and I have played A LOT.
|MaguS|
03-31-06, 09:32 AM
MustangSVT, You seem to be alot like me. You care more about adventuring and questing with friends then being uber all the time. You also seem to want to feel like your in a large world. If this is correct then Vanguards is what you are looking for. It will bring back all the fears of dying (even the dreaded corpse run) but will also have a good learning curve insted of throwing you into the world without a clue.
If you like meeting people and adventuring with them, I recommend Dungeons and Dragons Online untill Vanguards. Thats what Im doing. Its a very group oriented game and I have met some great people on it. There are alot of immature people on it but nowhere near the amount of WoW or even EQ2. Most of the players are older (Im the youngest in my Guild, Im 24).
Sure the game is alot like Guild Wars as in theres no huge world but it offers alot more quests and just a better enviroment in my opinion. Players actually have interaction with the world aswell (there are breakables and quests often involve the players directly).
MustangSVT
03-31-06, 10:42 AM
Well I don't have the money for it right now, and from the reviews I've read of it, it doesn't sound like a real MMORPG. I'll stick to playing Guild Wars since I have a lot of fun with my guild. DDO sounds too much like a team forcing Neverwinter Nights (and NWN was free online). If I'm gonna pay for a MMORPG (never payed monthly for one), it better be something with a huge world and where I can go adventuring and not just dungeon after dungeon.
Anyway, I'll be waiting the reviews for Vanguards and see if I buy it.
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