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agentkay
02-28-06, 01:24 PM
http://www.ghostrecon.net/

Sad day today, GRAW PC is officially delayed to Q2. I guess Ubisoft is suffering under Valve-itis. I wish the release date would have been "when its done" from the first time, because all these broken release dates and delays (3rd now) are plain annoying. Actually, I fear that GRAW PC will eventually be cancelled, just like GR2 was.

evilchris
02-28-06, 01:25 PM
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2005/0513/ms_3.jpg

S.I.N
02-28-06, 01:33 PM
Noooooooooooo. This sucks. Now I have to play it on my brothers damn 360 to get my fix. Hopefully it will be for the better.:(

nekrosoft13
02-28-06, 01:47 PM
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2005/0513/ms_3.jpg

what the hell does that have to do with PC game? :thumbdwn:

Superfly
02-28-06, 01:52 PM
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2005/0513/ms_3.jpg

Some of us dont like our shooters played from OTS or 3rd person.

im sure the 360 version will be OK, if you like that sort of thing.

Superfly
02-28-06, 01:54 PM
what the hell does that have to do with PC game? :thumbdwn:

he cant help it, just like that knob from the penguin forums that posts BS in every Windows Vista thread.

Its as if he actually thinks the idea of buying a 360 to play GRAW is appealing, I'd rather bleed from the eye sockets.

Superfly
02-28-06, 02:00 PM
going back on topic - Ubi hav'nt said this delay officially?? - the forums still list the 31st of March as the date and my pre-order date has'nt been changed.

Im gonna hold off beleiving this until Ubi confirm it (or not).

regardless I'll be picking up the PC version when its done.

jAkUp
02-28-06, 02:03 PM
The Console version and PC version are completely different games. I am only interested in the PC version.

agentkay
02-28-06, 02:06 PM
Apperantly Ubisoft UK did confirm it, "internally", but not on their official website or press announcement yet.

MaXThReAT
02-28-06, 07:23 PM
Don't forget this game is heavily linked to the PPU. I haven’t seen much publicity on ageia other than the bfg teaser. It could be the PC version was delayed to coincide with a second title or the PPU itself. Maybe it’s a marketing scam by MS to get people to buy 360s. Either way it sux.

agentkay
02-28-06, 07:39 PM
Don't forget this game is heavily linked to the PPU. I haven’t seen much publicity on ageia other than the bfg teaser. It could be the PC version was delayed to coincide with a second title or the PPU itself. Maybe it’s a marketing scam by MS to get people to buy 360s. Either way it sux.

But didnīt BFG want to launch (or introduce) the PPU in March? You see, THATS WHY I was actually hyped and trusted UBI that theyīll make the March 31st date, after all GRAW is the first "A-title" that will show off this new tech.

I just read that the news of the delay were leaked thru Ubisoft email announcements to all media outlets. So its official for sure. :thumbsdown:

nekrosoft13
02-28-06, 07:41 PM
he cant help it, just like that knob from the penguin forums that posts BS in every Windows Vista thread.


i hate people like that

evilchris
02-28-06, 07:42 PM
he cant help it, just like that knob from the penguin forums that posts BS in every Windows Vista thread.

Its as if he actually thinks the idea of buying a 360 to play GRAW is appealing, I'd rather bleed from the eye sockets.

Yeah360 is for3 kIDSW!!! LEte pc gamers bUy it opn pc!!!! uitgs bettar!!

Q
03-01-06, 12:21 AM
Here's a formula I came up with.

As anticipation approaches Infinity, the likelyhood of delay increases by a factor of the value of anticipation. This applies to all PC games.

jAkUp
03-01-06, 01:33 AM
Yea tell me about it. Man this totally sucks. I'm pretty positive that it's not canned, since Grin is working on it... but still. Same thing that happened with GR2. Then cancelled. Wow.

Tork64
03-01-06, 03:37 AM
From what ive learned from the ubi forums this isnt the first time UBI has screwed over PC gamers with ghost recon. In fact I wouldnt be surprised if the game gets cancelled all together for the PC. Whatever, Ill be playing Oblivion when this crap gets sorted out. If you check out the ubi forums youll see loyal fans of ghost recon just flaming ubi, i dont think that forum has a true fan left.

agentkay
03-01-06, 05:35 AM
Yea tell me about it. Man this totally sucks. I'm pretty positive that it's not canned, since Grin is working on it... but still. Same thing that happened with GR2. Then cancelled. Wow.

I hope so. Rumor is they want to showcase GRAW with AGEIAs PPU at the E3 and get tons of publicity for the game, even from hardware sites. I admit, Iīm still not very optimistic at this point, and if we would get at least a honest response from UBI and at least weekly new pix and vids.

Edit: Bo, GRINs CEO responsed over at Ghostrecon.net:

Hi guys

On behalf of the GRIN team I fell obliged to step in here and say we're sorry for the delay. I can't go out and talk on the reason but I know all you hardcore fans are really disappointed not to be playing in March. I wont jump around with fancy marketing words all I can say is that we are doing a hell of a effort to get this game out and at the same time as good as possible.

This game is to stand the test of time as GR1 did and that is no small thing. What we are into now is a lot of testing and balancing. And NO the AI is in fact one of the best ever created if you like tactical play that is.

I hope some screens or videos can be released very soon to back up my words.

As for the X360 it looks great and I truly think the console fans will get what they want.

As for the PC fans we take a totally different approach and I think both games are rocking. Now we just want to make sure the PC is really all it can be.

Appologies

Bo

GRIN

Superfly
03-01-06, 06:05 AM
Thanks for that - good to hear TBH.

GRAW PC is sounding better and better all the time (Stand the test of time) was a VERY brave thing to say.

more power to them, I hope it all goes well.

anticitizenzero
03-01-06, 09:43 AM
Now we just want to make sure the PC is really all it can be.

Bull****

agentkay
03-01-06, 10:31 AM
4 new screenshots of GRAW PC (hi-res versions)

http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/GRAW_PC_001_060228_Ambush_copie.jpg (http://s2.supload.com/free/GRAW_PC_001_060228_Ambush_copie.jpg/view/)http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/GRAW_PC_004_060228_Xcom_copie.jpg (http://s2.supload.com/free/GRAW_PC_004_060228_Xcom_copie.jpg/view/)http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/GRAW_PC_003_060228_Lonewolf_copie.jpg (http://s2.supload.com/free/GRAW_PC_003_060228_Lonewolf_copie.jpg/view/)http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/GRAW_PC_002_060228_Lonewolf_copie.jpg (http://s2.supload.com/free/GRAW_PC_002_060228_Lonewolf_copie.jpg/view/)

Superfly
03-01-06, 11:01 AM
Thanks. But I think that the Xbox 360 looks way better. That just sucks...
I hope they improve the graphics now!

you are joking right?? - the 360 just looks orange, those shots look so fookin natural I could be there!!!!!

agentkay
03-01-06, 11:12 AM
http://www.ghostrecon.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=31305&st=0

-They toned down the HDR because thats what people on ghostrecon.net requested.
-The compass/fire/thread indicator was further optimized on peoples requests
-They moved the HUD further up into the upper left corner, because again, people worried about the FOV and that it might block enemies, so they changed it.
-They upped the texture resolution by 8 times since October, obviously there are still a few low-res textures (the tree), but work is being done. I donīt remember another PC game that has a streaming engine AND textures like that.
-The view distance is now 3 times higher than the October build too.
-This game has a day/cycle, shadows (soft selfshadowing shadows, on EVERY object, house and cable) move as the sun moves, and every surface texture has a normal map.
-Night vision shader is much more realistic on the PC version than the 360 version.

If the HDR or Bloom will be adjustable, I donīt think the PC version will be ALL that far away visually from the 360 version.

Superfly
03-01-06, 11:23 AM
I dont dislike the 360 version, it looks like a decent 3rd person arcade shooter with great graphics and some basic tactical options.

although that sounds fun its not what I want out of a GR game - the PC version on the other hand has monsterous AI, full tactical integration and an on the fly tactical menu along with much more natural visuals and supurb texture resolution/weapon effects/draw distance etc etc.

If you want a tactical FPS then GRAW PC is your only option.

If you want a 3rd person arcade shooter with great graphics then buy all means get the 360 version.

each to their own

agentkay
03-01-06, 11:29 AM
Exactly Superfly, both the 360 and PC version serve different preferances and gameplay. Someone who has both the 360 and a PC and likes both action and tactical shooters could actually buy both versions and enjoy them on different levels. So there is no need to fight over the two versions, they are both cool in their own way.

Superfly
03-01-06, 11:30 AM
Just noticed the lack of red triangles - which is nice!!