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pelly
08-12-02, 02:03 PM
After doing a search, I came up with the following:

highest score using an overclocked P4 @ 3044MHz = 16047

highest score using XP1900+ = 11569

There are a few more scores using overclocked P4's......the typical score is a high 15,000 for 3GHz P4's...

Impressive....

saturnotaku
08-12-02, 03:00 PM
Do you have some Ti4600 scores for similar systems? On my AthlonXP machine, my Ti4600 can get 10500 standing on its head. Now if the 9700 can achieve 11000+ with AA and/or AF, that would be impressive. Otherwise, those numbers really aren't that exceptional.

Spiritwalker
08-12-02, 04:23 PM
The 9700 becomes cpu limited at default resolutions with 3dMark.

The best comparison would be to have the Ti4600 and the 9700 both set at 4x AA and 4 tap AF

saturnotaku
08-12-02, 04:49 PM
I'm that would be no contest then, 9700 would win hands down and then some.

pelly
08-12-02, 06:27 PM
If you guys take a look at MadOnion's Result Browser, and do a search for any config using the 9700 ( default benchmark though ) you'll see the numbers I was referring to...

The scary part ( for ATI fans ) is that the 3GHz P4's are only a couple hundred points higher than a 2.7GHz P4...

P4 @ 3.044GHz = 15876

P4 @ 2.784GHz = 15073

AMD XP @ 1.596GHz = 11569

If you ask me, it looks as though high 15,000's will be the typical max for this card as an extra 260MHz only adds a 800pts. Wiith 3GHz being an absolute screaming CPU, I find it more difficult to claim that as the weakest part.....

IMHO, I'd be surprised to see the best overclockers break 17K.....now with NV30, rumors have the 20-25K mark being broken on similar systems...

:confused:


:D

netape
08-13-02, 10:58 AM
Kamu has already broke the 17k barrier ;) I think that he would get around 18.5k marks with R9700... imo

pelly
08-13-02, 11:03 AM
Wow.....that guy is good......
Can you imagine having a system that fast?

I can't wait to see his scores using a next-gen card!

:D

Bigus Dickus
08-13-02, 01:14 PM
Does it even matter anymore that the LOD is tanked for many of those scores? :rolleyes:

sebazve
08-13-02, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by Bigus Dickus
Does it even matter anymore that the LOD is tanked for many of those scores? :rolleyes:

so true.
3DMark is a joke. I used to think it was a good bench but it doesnt reflect how your card perform. And now we have ati and Nvidia tweaking their drivers for it so whats the point?

Joe Shmoe
08-14-02, 02:30 AM
Originally posted by pelly
The scary part ( for ATI fans ) is that the 3GHz P4's are only a couple hundred points higher than a 2.7GHz P4...

P4 @ 3.044GHz = 15876

P4 @ 2.784GHz = 15073

(3.044 - 2.784)/2.784 = 9.3% clock speed gain
(15876 - 15073)/15073 = 5.3% gain in 3D Marks

Looks pretty CPU limited to me.

If you ask me, it looks as though high 15,000's will be the typical max for this card as an extra 260MHz only adds a 800pts. Wiith 3GHz being an absolute screaming CPU, I find it more difficult to claim that as the weakest part.....

3D Mark is a good CPU benchmark (at default settings), not a good 3D chip benchmark. 3 Ghz is a fast CPU, but 3D Mark is a CPU intensive benchmark, so there you go.
now with NV30, rumors have the 20-25K mark being broken on similar systems...

Very unlikely, IMO. That's why they are called "rumors". Besides, how can a chip that hasn't taped out hit 20,000+ 3D Marks?

StealthHawk
08-14-02, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by Joe Shmoe

3D Mark is a good CPU benchmark (at default settings), not a good 3D chip benchmark. 3 Ghz is a fast CPU, but 3D Mark is a CPU intensive benchmark, so there you go.


actually it's a pretty good system benchmark. both video card, CPU, and *probably* memory subsystem have tangible effects on your final score

FastM
08-15-02, 12:30 PM
So when are we going to see 3dMark2002 ?

netviper13
08-15-02, 12:58 PM
Probably not until DX 9 is fully released...they usually release a new version with each version of Direct X.

druga runda
08-16-02, 03:12 AM
At the moment R9700 is alrady on top with 3.1 ghz P4, - 17421

CPU:Pentium4 2.1G ES oc 3108MHz(21*148) VGA:C.P/PowerColor Radeon9700 Pro(325/620MHz) http://www.oc.com.tw

and second is still a GF4 ti 4600 with a 3.9 ghz P4 17230 marks GF4@409/777MHz :D LN2 Cooling for CPU and GPU. Pics -> www.kamu2.net/gf4.html

Acid Rain
08-16-02, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by sebazve


so true.
3DMark is a joke. I used to think it was a good bench but it doesnt reflect how your card perform. And now we have ati and Nvidia tweaking their drivers for it so whats the point?

It's a pc fanatic's numbers game, a sport, and nothing more, unless you are comparing your own numbers with your own numbers to check the worth-whileness of your cpu/fsb overclock.

1eppan
08-19-02, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by FastM
So when are we going to see 3dMark2002 ?

Official word is "when it's finished."

SlyBoots
08-23-02, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by pelly
After doing a search, I came up with the following:

highest score using an overclocked P4 @ 3044MHz = 16047

highest score using XP1900+ = 11569

There are a few more scores using overclocked P4's......the typical score is a high 15,000 for 3GHz P4's...

Impressive....

How about 18477 by Borsti?

http://www.rivastation.com/index_e.htm

nice OC eh ;)

Lars
08-24-02, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by SlyBoots


How about 18477 by Borsti?

http://www.rivastation.com/index_e.htm

nice OC eh ;)

:eek: Wow, that's not nice, that's da** impressive :D I'm not actually sure whether the cpu overclock or the gpu overclock is more impressive.... Even regardless of LOD tweaking (which I don't think Borsti used) it's a mighty impressive run.