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PeterJensen
04-06-06, 09:35 AM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=95021

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Toss3
04-06-06, 09:46 AM
linky no worky

slaWter
04-06-06, 09:46 AM
Conroe is on top of my list this summer! I hope there are some good SLI mobos for overclocking!

a12ctic
04-06-06, 09:49 AM
wow look at that voltage thats like twice what my amd chip uses :P

Superfly
04-06-06, 09:55 AM
wow - maybe I'll be able to afford one next year. :-(

retsam
04-06-06, 10:15 AM
wow, there server is dead..damn ..

MUYA
04-06-06, 10:28 AM
wow look at that voltage thats like twice what my amd chip uses :P
CPU-Z must be reporting it wrong. Everest reports it as 1.18v ..

Telomerase
04-06-06, 10:29 AM
wtf@SSE4 or am i just out-of-the-loop?
how different is conroe from dothan? is the core still very similar, i know it has SSE3/4, EM64T, die shrink to 65nm, etc, but what about the key performance issues. such as 14-stage pipeline that a dothan has. i guess the new macro-op execution and 128-bit wide bandwidth for SSE instructions make conroe a bit faster than dothan. i'm still going to be happy with my 2.26Ghz dothan, though.

Daneel Olivaw
04-06-06, 10:45 AM
I don't trust that integer score...

MUYA
04-06-06, 10:52 AM
Conroe has 4MB l2 cache? I thought it was 2MB for each core?

Daneel Olivaw
04-06-06, 11:10 AM
Conroe has 4MB l2 cache? I thought it was 2MB for each core?

Maybe since its a shared 4MB cpuz sees it as 4MB each...?

fellix
04-06-06, 04:52 PM
I don't trust that integer score...
For 1 (one) cycle, Conroe is able to perform the following SIMD op's:

128-bit PADD;
128-bit PMULL;
128-bit LOAD;
128-bit STORE;
macro-fused comp&jump condition;


...

not counting the new fancy memory load/store "disambiguation" which can save a lot of precoius wait cycles - useful for FP code mostly.

Subtestube
04-06-06, 05:55 PM
I'm really curious to know what the cache size effect on this CPU is... how're those 2.16GHz 1MB/core ones that are considerably cheaper (dailytech posted pricing and revised pricing recently) going to perform? Hmmm.

mike686
04-06-06, 06:39 PM
That test also shows the X2 4400+ getting beaten by a good margin by a Pentium 4 Xeon...and we all know how great P4's are for gaming. ;) It must be a very Intel-biased test. Sill probably a little faster than the X2 in games though.

hemmy
04-06-06, 07:26 PM
I think the 4MB of L2 is shared btwn the 2 cores, (dont quote me) instead of having 2mb per core

Diff from dothan: dual core, 65nm, more instructions, 64bit

hemmy
04-06-06, 07:32 PM
Intel had a press release on their site about 3 years ago saying they would have 1nm 20GHZ cpus with 1 BILLION transistors by 2008. Guess that didn't turn out true

I wrote a paper on this article, but i am sure it no longer exists on their site

Richteralan
04-06-06, 07:57 PM
I take these synthetic pre-release benchmarks as a truck of salt.

I'll wait and see.

hemmy
04-06-06, 08:16 PM
I take these synthetic pre-release benchmarks as a truck of salt.

I'll wait and see.

These + all the other websites that showed a 2.66GHZ conroe beating a 2.8 FX60 isnt proof enough it is an awesome chip?

Richteralan
04-06-06, 08:32 PM
These + all the other websites that showed a 2.66GHZ conroe beating a 2.8 FX60 isnt proof enough it is an awesome chip?

I would like to see more real-world testing plus non-Intel benchmarks.

I wouldn't deny that it LOOKS awesome from graphs.

Subtestube
04-06-06, 09:58 PM
REALLY good [technical] article on Core (Conroe/Merom) architecture on Ars technica:

http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/cpu/core.ars

jAkUp
04-09-06, 02:04 AM
Yup, the L2 cache on Conroe are different, it is shared across the CPU's, so you actually get 4MB's out of it. Not like X2's or P4D's.

Superfly
04-09-06, 06:03 AM
REALLY good [technical] article on Core (Conroe/Merom) architecture on Ars technica:

http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/cpu/core.ars

Great article, thanks.

You can almost see were the huge boost in perfomance comes from now, a much cleaner architecture and getting rid of netbursts SSE bottleneck is going to make things really interesting.

watever
04-09-06, 11:21 PM
from what i heard.. its 2mb cache for each core. but if only one core is used for a program, then that one core uses both caches, giving it 4mb.

Ninja Prime
04-09-06, 11:54 PM
Ehh that's not nearly as impressive as all the hype I heard. I'll wait and see, I'm not expecting better than a 15% improvement as far as gaming goes over the current top of the line. We'll see when the next AMD proc shows up.

SH64
04-10-06, 03:23 AM
WOW! now thats a CPU for Oblivion!