GeForce MX 4xx differences.

[MtViewGuy]

I have a question for all of you--what are the differences between these chipsets?

GeForce MX400
GeForce MX440
GeForce MX4000

I keep on thinking the GeForce MX4000 is the fastest and most evolved of these series of graphics chipsets.

[Blakhart]

They are all gf2 cards in actuality, and the only diff seems to be faster memory and core speeds, and options such as tv out and so on. The gf4ti cards, on the other hand, are righteous silicon even today.

[Joe Public]

The MX400 is probably a GeForce2 MX400. Oldest of the lot, predates the GF4 MXs by a coupla years.

The MX440 is a GeForce4 MX440. Performs much better than the MX400.

The MX4000 is just a renamed GeForce4 MX440 with AGP8x AFAIK.

They all share the same technology though, being only DirectX 7 cards.

[MtViewGuy]

They are all gf2 cards in actuality, and the only diff seems to be faster memory and core speeds, and options such as tv out and so on. The gf4ti cards, on the other hand, are righteous silicon even today.

I'm running a Gainward card with the GeForce Ti4200 (128 MB) in AGP 4x mode. Is that still a good card? :confused:

[Blakhart]

Hi
For dx8 games that card should do very well. When it (gf4ti series) came out they were the fastest cards until the 9700 was released. If you don't run it at a high resolution to game, say beyond 1024x768, it will do just fine.

[ricercar]

There are a lot of different GPUs being bandied about. All of them are DX8 cards according to NVIDIA, but IIRC the NV17/18 have only 21 of the 24 checkboxes for DX8 compatibility.

NV11 core
GeForce 2 MX 200
GeForce 2 MX 400 top bin

NV17 core
GeForce 4 MX 420 AGP 4x
GeForce 4 MX 440 AGP 4x seconds
GeForce 4 MX 460 AGP 4x top bin

NV18 core
GeForce 4 MX 420 AGP 8x
GeForce 4 MX 440 AGP 8x seconds
GeForce 4 MX 460 AGP 8x top bin

NV18 die shrink
GeForce MX 4000

NV25 core
GeForce 4 Ti 4200 AGP 4x
GeForce 4 Ti 4400 AGP 4x seconds
GeForce 4 Ti 4600 AGP 4x Top bin

NV28 core
GeForce 4 Ti 4200 AGP 8x
GeForce 4 Ti 4400 AGP 8x seconds
GeForce 4 Ti 4600 AGP 8x top bin

Top bin means sorted for speed, seconds are just that.

[Blakhart]

Ricer, what do you suppose a gf4ti8x asus v9480 with bga mem will clock to?

[MtViewGuy]

Thank you for all the information, everyone! :D

Now, here's the big question: will my Gainward Ti4200 card run the Aero Glass interface in Windows Vista or should I upgrade to a GeForce 6200 card instead? :confused:

[|MaguS|]

Don't think neither would really work well for Aero Glass, think I read you need to have a DX9 card for it.

[MtViewGuy]

Don't think neither would really work well for Aero Glass, think I read you need to have a DX9 card for it.

Hold it right there. Doesn't the GeForce 6200 chipset support full DirectX 9.0c functionality? :confused:

[fps_dean]

The MX440 is a GeForce4 MX440. Performs much better than the MX400.
Are you sure it's a 4? I am pretty damn sure my Geforce2 card in my old PC (I bought just after Geforce3s came out) was a MX440.

[Daydre@m]

Check This ( Nvidia Vista Ready GPUs ):

http://www.nvidia.com/page/technology_vista_home.html

The 6200 is a Dx 9.0 card and does support sm3.0 .

[watever]

for some weird reason, im not able to install any new drivers for my mx440. It will get halfway through the install and then crash. Do i have to roll back to older drivers to use this card? Im on a newly formatted p4 at 2.26ghz. This is the system i have to use till i get my 7900gt from the evga step up program.

[betterdan]

Check This ( Nvidia Vista Ready GPUs ):

http://www.nvidia.com/page/technology_vista_home.html

The 6200 is a Dx 9.0 card and does support sm3.0 .
Wow so even the crappy FX series will fully work with all of Vista's features?

[MtViewGuy]

Wow so even the crappy FX series will fully work with all of Vista's features?

That tells me that nVidia may have convinced Microsoft that the Aero Glass interface in Windows Vista support DirectX 9.0, not the current 9.0c version. I would have preferred they support the DirectX functionality of the GeForce4 Ti4xxx chipsets, though....

[gtjr_ph]

Are you sure it's a 4? I am pretty damn sure my Geforce2 card in my old PC (I bought just after Geforce3s came out) was a MX440.

there is a geforce 2 mx 440 and the other one a geforce 4 mx 440

[swaaye]

There's a GeForce2 MX 400. It's the fastest GeForce2 MX.

Series went like this:
GeForce2 MX (original MX, not slowest)
GeForce2 MX100 (slowest)
GeForce2 MX200 (almost as slow)
GeForce2 MX400 (pretty quick)
GeForce4 MX420 (like GF2 MX200)
GeForce4 MX440 (not so bad really, think GF2 Pro)
GeForce4 MX460 <- (this one is actually pretty wicked lol. It flopped tho cuz it was too $$.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce Wikipedia actually has some decent model info (cuz I put most of it up, lol).

Then the next shopper-robber DX7 GF4 came out, the MX4000. Though it's not actually called a GF4. GeForce MX4000.

There may be other models out there, but these are the major ones that got significant press. GF4 MX was really made to compete with the likes of Radeon 7500, and to end the line of more expensive-to-build GeForce2 cards (GTS, Pro, Ti, Ultra). They were good at that, with MX440 ougunning the Ultra sometimes, but they lasted WAY too long. I can't believe people still buy them in the MX4000 variety. Yuck. You can get a nice Radeon 9700 PRO for less, lol.