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NrG
04-22-06, 06:06 AM
Ok, now just for a second I'm going to juxtapose two ideas for you...gaming and laptop. Now since I'm moving away to university, I need a laptop but I want one that can play GW, Oblivion and WoW at decent (high) quiality. My budget? Well preferably below $3000 AUD ($2220 USD). I have been looking hard at the 1.67 Ghz version of the MacBook Pro (hoping to dual boot it) which has a Mobility Radeon X1600. How is the performance of this machine? If not, cn anyone suggest a notebook/laptop with a Go7600 (better than the X1600?) or better? Is the Go7400 any good? Oh yeah, and what about the higher level gpus (ie. X1800 and Go7900), can they be found in my budget?
My reasoning for the Mac is simple: looks. If the performance can be beaten significantly and it still looks good, then thats good for me. Thanx all.

Aphot
04-22-06, 06:12 PM
The Dell XPS 1710 (i think) have the go7900gtxs 512mb in them. They are really expensive though. Their lower end models have 7900GS's in them.

ENU291
04-23-06, 04:10 PM
The laptop GPU version of it's desktop cousin is significantly slower because it is not clocked as high. An X1600 in a laptop will not perform as fast of the desktop X1600. For about $2300 you are not going to find anything that will play newer games (Oblivion, GRAW etc) at high res. For your budget games like WOW should be playable at high res with something like a Dell E1705 with the nVidia 7800 graphics option.

john19055
04-23-06, 11:48 PM
If you want a labtop that will play Oblivion decent then you are looking at around $3000 if not more.

NrG
04-24-06, 02:22 AM
I found the Toshiba Satellite P105-S921 to be quite decent at a price of $1,999 USD.

These are the specs:

Intel Core™ Duo Processor T2400
o 1.83GHz, 2MB L2, 667MHz FSB
• Mobile Intel 945GM Express Chipset
• Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG (802.11a/b/g)

Configured with 1024MB DDR2 SDRAM (using two memory
modules in dual-channel configuration)
• 256MB(min)/4096MB (max), 2 memory slots using 256MB, 512MB,
or 2048MB PC5300 DDR2 667MHz SDRAM, dual-channel
support requires two memory modules of same capacity and
clockspeed

• 160GB (4200 rpm) Serial-ATA (SATA) hard disk drive; 12.5mm
height

• DVD SuperMulti (+/-R double layer) drive supporting 11 formats
o Maximum speed and compatibility: CD-ROM (24x:read),
CD-R (24x:write), CD-RW (10x:write), DVD-ROM
(8x:read), DVD-R (Single Layer, 8x:write), DVD-R
(Double Layer, 2x: write), DVD-RW (4x:write), DVD+R
(Single Layer, 8x:write), DVD+R (Double Layer,
2.4x:write), DVD+RW (4x:write), DVD-RAM (5x:write)

• 17.0” diagonal widescreen TruBrite™ TFT active-matrix LCD
display at 1440x900 native resolution (WXGA)

• PCI-Express™ x16 graphics subsystem, featuring:
• NVIDIA® GeForce® Go 7900 GS with 256MB GDDR3 discrete
graphics memory

Would this play Oblivion at High Quality?

ENU291
04-24-06, 06:59 AM
There is a user review of that laptop HERE. (http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=145933) It looks like the 7900GS has similar performance to the 6800 Ultra. Since the max res of that laptop is only 1440X900 you should be able to play Oblivion at that resolution was most of the eye candy on.

Edit: CNET also did a review on this laptop. Review can be found here. (http://reviews.cnet.com/Toshiba_Satellite_P105_S921/4505-3121_7-31812922-2.html?tag=nav)

NrG
04-24-06, 10:25 PM
A 7900GS is similar to a 6800?!? *faints*...whats the point?

SH64
04-24-06, 10:49 PM
Nope .. from the specs the 7900GS is certainly better :
20 pixel pipes
7 vertex pipes
90nm - 20W
375Mhz core
500Mhz mem
based on the G7x architecture.

not bad at all! if i had the money i would've taken it.

a12ctic
04-24-06, 10:53 PM
Check out http://www.cyberpowerpc.com

they make some great cheap stuff.

NrG
04-25-06, 05:01 AM
Wait a second, I ain't shelling out $2000 AUD for decent eye candy. Ultra high for 1024x768 possible?

God I wish I could build a desktop with that money but I guess that desktops don't travel on planes too well, probably need to buy it a ticket =P.

FearMeAll
04-25-06, 05:48 AM
Wait a second, I ain't shelling out $2000 AUD for decent eye candy. Ultra high for 1024x768 possible?

God I wish I could build a desktop with that money but I guess that desktops don't travel on planes too well, probably need to buy it a ticket =P.
welcome to the world of mobile gaming...that's the way it is my friend...tough snookies. I know the kind of performance you are talking about and you need a $4000 laptop to do what you want. Because that laptop you showed the cpu is gonna make oblivion crawl. do you have good credit? I am able to get 6 months same as cash on alienware. Going to get me a gaming laptop after I buy a house later this year and I plan on blowing at least 4 grand.
that $2000 laptop you showed isn't a bad deal at all. You are just going to have to drop a couple settings from time to time.

ENU291
04-25-06, 09:39 AM
Nope .. from the specs the 7900GS is certainly better :
20 pixel pipes
7 vertex pipes
90nm - 20W
375Mhz core
500Mhz mem
based on the G7x architecture.

not bad at all! if i had the money i would've taken it.With the Intel Core Duo running at 1.8Ghz the Toshiba scores about 6500 on 3DMARK05. Thats about as fast as the desktop version of the 6800 Ultra. What hurts the 7900GS is the low core clock. I have no doubt that if someone overclocked the 7900GS it would kick some serious a$$!! :)

Q
04-25-06, 05:55 PM
You can get one HELL of a laptop at dell for under 2g right now. For $1,934 you get something that could kick some major ass in Oblivion. Some of the specs:

Intel T2600 processor. This thing runs as fast or just under an FX-60 in games and most applications. Yeah..

Geforce 7800 Go. (NonGTX) Still fast as hell though and is probably the 4th fastest mobile solution in the world and not by a large margin, either.

2GB DDR(2)667. Plenty of fast ram for the system.

80GB 7200RPM HD. Not tons of space, but more than enough for a couple games. And the speed rocks, too.

UXGA 17" Display. You can get the XGA+ screen, also 17 inches, for $100 less.

The system also comes with a wireless card, a DL DVD Burner, and you can get it for $200 UNDER that price I have listed if you have a Dell Prefered Credit account.

Oh, you wanted a link? ;)

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=1em9412&s=bsd

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/q1wk12_40email?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd

Its the Inspiron 9400 if the first link doesn't work right. Now you have me ready to lay down the cash...

SH64
04-25-06, 06:01 PM
Very nice specs ^

FearMeAll
04-25-06, 07:02 PM
niiiiiice laptop..alienware must be raping people then.

Sazar
04-25-06, 07:21 PM
Dell's end of quarter is next week so keep an eye on those coupons.

They have been running crazy deals on d'tops and notebooks for a few weeks now.

a12ctic
04-25-06, 08:29 PM
Dell is so over-rated, their computers for people that dont know the difference between ram and their cdrom

Sazar
04-25-06, 08:34 PM
Dell is so over-rated, their computers for people that dont know the difference between ram and their cdrom

Which, fortunately for Dell I guess, happens to be the vast majority of the population.

zoomy942
04-25-06, 08:46 PM
dont get a dell. most of them are overpiced when you count in getting a barebones and having it congifured for you. most notebooks out there are made by Compal, Asus or Quanta.

Mine is a quanta, but its rebadged as an alienware, a sager, and a falcon northwest. by not buying from them, i got it for $600 cheaper. And you can get a good notebook from several places.

http://www.avadirect.com/

has a few that are the same thing you would get from the big names, but you arent paying for pretty paint jobs and crap like that.

http://www.powernotebooks.com/

is another plac that has decent prices on non-rebadged notebooks.

thats the thing, try not to get an alienware or dell, or even any other boutique maker. if you want the ODM (original design maker) of alienwares and a few others, let me know and i'll hook you up. there is a wealth of options outside of the big names that could save you a TON of money.

my notebook, from falcon northwest, costs $2200. i got it for $1110

a12ctic
04-25-06, 08:47 PM
Get The Mac!!!

zoomy942
04-25-06, 08:50 PM
my my my.. doesnt this look like an alienware?

without the alien head and whatever else, it sure is cheaper:)

http://www.avadirect.com/product_details_configurator.asp?PRID=3291

Sazar
04-25-06, 08:56 PM
dont get a dell. most of them are overpiced when you count in getting a barebones and having it congifured for you. most notebooks out there are made by Compal, Asus or Quanta.

Mine is a quanta, but its rebadged as an alienware, a sager, and a falcon northwest. by not buying from them, i got it for $600 cheaper. And you can get a good notebook from several places.

http://www.avadirect.com/

has a few that are the same thing you would get from the big names, but you arent paying for pretty paint jobs and crap like that.

http://www.powernotebooks.com/

is another plac that has decent prices on non-rebadged notebooks.

thats the thing, try not to get an alienware or dell, or even any other boutique maker. if you want the ODM (original design maker) of alienwares and a few others, let me know and i'll hook you up. there is a wealth of options outside of the big names that could save you a TON of money.

my notebook, from falcon northwest, costs $2200. i got it for $1110

Yah you're right, it's over-priced b.s.

(pirate)

Like I said, it's end of quarter and there are some awesome deals.

You can get a GOOD 1705 package for cheap.

The attachment is for a 1505 with better specs than your rig.

zoomy942
04-25-06, 09:03 PM
yeah, but watch out for that x1400. that is nothing special, as its the new low end model ati is offering. my 6600 will beat it by a bit. youre best best is to snag a 7600 or a x1600 gpu. those are the new midrange chips and if you are lucky, get it in MXM and you can toss in a new one later. i am waiting for the 7600 MXM to be available and im gona toos it in my lappy.

Sazar
04-25-06, 09:17 PM
yeah, but watch out for that x1400. that is nothing special, as its the new low end model ati is offering. my 6600 will beat it by a bit. youre best best is to snag a 7600 or a x1600 gpu. those are the new midrange chips and if you are lucky, get it in MXM and you can toss in a new one later. i am waiting for the 7600 MXM to be available and im gona toos it in my lappy.

Granted it's not a great gaming gfx, but it's not unplayable.

For a more gaming oriented config, something like the package below would likely be more suited.

zoomy942
04-25-06, 09:19 PM
now that second one, i agree with you. much more powerful.

but its all about personal preference.

i wanted a more mobile notebook with great battery life. i picked the pentium M 1.6 for a reason:) since it has the lowest power usage of the M's, while still have the .9 process and 533FSB.

but for a less mobile, albiet much more powerful notebook, you are on the right track