Killed for playing CS...

[ALobpreis]

Too bad news....
He was playing CS. Then someone tells him F.U., and he replies F.U.2.

The guys tried to hit him, and later returned, beat him and shot him.

The link (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/PEstory/TGAM/20030125/UCOMPN/national/national/nationalTheNationHeadline_temp/4/4/21/).

Police seized the computers used by Mr. Kwee and by those suspected of playing against him.

:eek: :eek: The computers?? Why?

ProGamer's manager, Harry Law, rejected the suggestion that the game Counter-Strike encourages violence.

What else would he say?

Counter-Strike is "the most popular game in the world" and played by many people who do not become violent, he said.

"I highly doubt that the game has any influence over someone who causes violence," he said. He speculated that Mr. Kwee may have been killed by someone who had a grudge against him for another reason


Of course, again the same story.

Why do all this unsane people always have a gun at hand?? :mad:

[vampireuk]

The games get blamed again for retards:rolleyes:

[de><ta]

I dont know, but there is a darker side to these games. I am sure those of you who play games like i used to for around 18 something hours everyday would know of it... It is wierd but after some time you lose your sense of reality the game environement seems more real to you.

How many of you get this wierd as feeling after playing tournaments which take around 10 to 15 hours, it is just wierd. I am sure someone who is depressed enough and under that "withdrawal" state would not hesitate to resort to violence.

I still have a tendency to be a compulsive gamer, but i have controlled myself a lot after getting into college. My brain keeps screaming at me to play games but I have not played any games for nearly 2 months :eek: ...

[SnakeEyes]

The games themselves have nothing to do with the violent actions of these people. It's really easy to rationalize the link, due to the graphic violence simulated on the monitor, but that's all it really is- rationalizing, just based on the similarity.

In reality, it's the people themselves, no matter the situation. I know that I personally have been angry enough that I felt like strangling someone due to their blatant rude and / or offensive comments before, and we weren't playing games on a computer.

From what I read in this story, this guy was being a Lamer (I have a better word that comes to mind, but I'll leave that out of this, since this IS a family forum). He was winning, and then taunting the other players, and from the tone of the article, he wasn't just taunting, but doing it in a very offensive manner. This would tick me off too, and has in the past when I've been playing on a server and met someone like that. But as I said, the same sort of behavior makes me angry whether it's in the game or just in a flower shop. The game itself isn't the issue, it's the ignoramus involved.

Likewise, the guys that beat him and shot him are just as guilty, but mainly of not being able to control themselves and act in a professional manner. At worst I might argue with someone, eventually realizing the effort is futile, and then I'll just ignore them and move on. That's what those guys should have done, but then again, it sounds as if they were almost gang-bangers anyhow, doesn't it?

The worst part of the whole situation is that it's just another example of our society today. One that doesn't want to face up to the causes of its problems and face responsibility for them. Instead, it's easier to find someone or something other than ourselves and lay the blame there, where we don't have to admit that the way we teach our children as we raise them is at fault. :(

[Kruno]

Computer games always seem to be the problem according to people who want an easy way to blame something.

[ALobpreis]

Like said before in these forums, the air is the reason for this behavior. Yeah! The murderer was breathing air! So air is what made him do that! Air is baaadd!!! :rolleyes:

[Kruno]

Originally posted by ALobpreis
Like said before in these forums, the air is the reason for this behavior. Yeah! The murderer was breathing air! So air is what made him do that! Air is baaadd!!! :rolleyes:

Stop forcing your opinion on me.
;)

It's not the air, it's the persons state of mind. I can also be driven to kill someone in cold blood. Just pop a steering wheel down my pants and drive me to do it. ;)

Seriously:
I don't see why anyone would decide a video game would do something like that.
AFAIK video games help me relax.
Of course different things have a different effect (chemical reaction in brain) on people.

[styles-T]

counter strike is the devil :firedevil

[Darth Rancid]

This is not the dark side of Counter Strike, it is the dark side of letting people carry guns around...
I'm not out to start a guns thrad again, I'm just pointing out that when everyone can own guns legally, freaks will have them too... I'm quite sure all you ordinary Americans are aware of this, but in that article it seems like the police was not...

[UDawg]

Originally posted by !plonk*
counter strike is the devil :firedevil

BAHAHAHAHAH!!!! :rw:

[StealthHawk]

there will always be sore winners and losers, especially when its a game as popular as CS...

[LORD-eX-Bu]

haha! this is hilarious! LOSERS! LOSERS I SAY!:p

[-=Gib-McFragger=-]

That happened a few mins from where I live. All over the news here in Vanc.


CounterStrike IS the devil!!!:firedevil

[LORD-eX-Bu]

CS IS TEH SUCK!:p

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by [eNv]-LORD-eX-Bu
haha! this is hilarious! LOSERS! LOSERS I SAY!:p

to which people exactly are you referring to? the whole lot in general? :D

[LORD-eX-Bu]

sure! why not!:p but mainly to the guys that die and kill over these games;)

[ALobpreis]

CS was just the trigger, but the guy was sick from the start already. As said above, the trigger could have been anything.
If CS made this to kids, they think kids are like puppets. I think parent's misseducation is much more important and has a little higher impact on the child's actions.

[SnakeEyes]

Originally posted by ALobpreis
CS was just the trigger, but the guy was sick from the start already. As said above, the trigger could have been anything.
If CS made this to kids, they think kids are like puppets. I think parent's misseducation is much more important and has a little higher impact on the child's actions.
That's exactly the point I was trying to get at, ALobpreis. Nobody wants to take personal accountability / responsibility for their actions or for the proper education (morality too) of their children any more. It seems we all think it's the 'community's job'. (substitute your favorite government body for community and it's still valid :().

[Darth Rancid]

I just realized that Vancouver is in Canada, not the US of A... which makes me even more confused about the policemen in the article... I mean, the freak was carrying a gun in an internet café!!... a GUN! Do normal Canadian citizens do that? I think not...

[vampireuk]

Dude the words canadian and normal just do not go in the same sentence;) :D

[ASCI Blue]

The closest accurate statement about the game is loss of sence of reality, only prob is it's hard to argue that when one has to detach oneself from his or her computer, make the effort to get a weapon, get transportation, and end a life. Too many steps.

However one of the closest accurate arguements one can make is driving games. One removes oneself from the enclosed machine, or atleast detaches oneself from the steering wheel/handle bars (for motorcycle games), walks ~100 feet to a vehicle, and drives off. 35 suddenly becomes 70ish even though by now reality has set in, perception however hasn't been changed as much.

[ALobpreis]

Were driving games blamed at least once for car crashes??
I think the only driving game with problems was Carmaggedon, and not for exatly driving fast...
How many young kids that drive think they are in NFS in real life?

[-=Gib-McFragger=-]

Originally posted by vampireuk
Dude the words canadian and normal just do not go in the same sentence;) :D


Ok, you neck biting phr34k!!!! That's the last straw!!!! :fu:

I shall smite thee for dissing us!!!!!! :rw: :p