Shadowrun for PC and XBox 360!!!

[CaptNKILL]

I saw people discussing this in another thread and I almost wet myself :eek:

Last I heard this game was practically a rumor, now there are people playing it at E3!

Im a huge fan of the old Shadowrun video games, and I've been awaiting some sequels for like 12 years. This may not be a real sequel, but man it sounds cool!

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/shadowrun/preview_6150590.html?part=rss&tag=gs_&subj=6150590

I thought I would have to end up buying an Xbox 360 to play it as well. But according to this article, X360 and PC players will be able to not only play, but play against eachother in multiplayer games that let the player advance their skills, equipment and cyber enhancements.

Anyone else want this game as bad as I do?

[CaptNKILL]

There are some x360 screenshots here:
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/shadowrun/screenindex.html

Doesnt really look like much on the Xbox 360, but the preview article said it looked sharper on the PC.

[|MaguS|]

I would rather play Bioshock. I don't know how well it will play as a FPS...

[CaptNKILL]

Yeah we'll see how it works out.

Its a shame there wont be a single player mode with a story, but if it has good missions and large levels in MP then it could be something pretty unique.

Im mostly interested just out of "sentimental value" because the old games really were fantastic. I just love the Shadowrun world. With the technology, magic, elves, dwarves, orcs, native american lore, vampires, corporate espionage, fighting and hacking in the matrix...

Freaking cool as hell :)

[jnd3]

It's interesting that the game's going back to the beginning of the Shadowrun timeline, just after the Awakening. That means pre-Matrix and before any of the really cool heavy cybermods came out, so it might not be exactly what we remember. I'm still pretty stoked about it, though.

[CaptNKILL]

It's interesting that the game's going back to the beginning of the Shadowrun timeline, just after the Awakening. That means pre-Matrix and before any of the really cool heavy cybermods came out, so it might not be exactly what we remember. I'm still pretty stoked about it, though.
Have you played the SNES and Genesis versions?

I dont know much about the Shadowrun world or the card game outside of what was used in the video games (which I know wasnt much other than the setting).

Do you think itl be more along the timeline of the SNES version? The Genesis one seemed to have much more technology.

Both were absolutely amazing games though IMO. I dont think any game on any 16 bit console came close to the amount of freedom of the Genesis game, and the SNES one had great RPG elements, great characters, great scenery, great atmosphere and an excellent overall gameplay style that reminds me more of a PC adventure game than a console game.

Heh, my DREAM would be to work on remakes of these games and then continue on with sequels. When everyone was drooling over mario and zelda and all that, I was totaly obsessed with Shadowrun. Amazing games that deffinitely deserve sequels. Hopefully this game renews interest enough to bring a proper single player sequel to one (or both) of them in the future.

[Lazaredz]

Aaahhh ... Shadowrun ... good times, good time.

Never played the NES game but had a good few years of P&P RPG playing with my friends.

Famous quotes include:

"Next time, get a gernade skill"

"But Mr. Johnson TOLD us it would be here"

"WTF was THAT?!?!?!!!???"

"Oh, your fragged now chummer"

"Bug Shamens??? Thats it, I'm out of here ...."

"Its an ACTION game Ken ....."

Wish they would make a good RPG out of it like Vampire: The masquared ... or even something big like Morrowing/Oblivion. To see the timeline advance, corps rise and fall, the election ...... good times ... good times

[jolle]

They used Shadowrun at the MS conference to show how they are bridging the platforms and putting Vista, XB360 and windows mobile on "Xbox Live" which will be called "Live Anywhere" or somesuch..
The guy used the friends thing (on 360, messanger based perhaps) and saw one of his friends was on Vista, Status: working.. so he invited him to play SR and when he accepted he was almost instantly transfered directly into the match.
Crossplatform all the way, thought it was pretty neat.

[sAnt@]

http://gamesfirst.com/?id=1286

Interesting read here from the developers of the new Shadowrun game...

Ending the Battle Between Keyboard and Controller:

"Originally, we thought the PC would destroy the Xbox controller," said Bill Gross, a Software Test Engineer working on Shadowrun, the premiere Live Anywhere title for the Xbox 360 and Windows Vista. "But it didn't."

For years now there's been a debate about whether a console controller could ever compete with a PC's keyboard and mouse combination. With the upcoming release of Live Anywhere, which puts Xbox 360 and Windows Vista players against one another, we've got a new source of information to help end the debate.

Shadowrun, developed by FASA and published by Microsoft, will be Live Anywhere's premier game, launching at the same time as Vista in an effort to push the new multiplayer platform. It's a fast-paced twitch FPS similar to Counterstrike, and an ideal example of how controls have to be tweaked in order to balance out gameplay.

Balancing the gameplay between the two systems took a lot of trial and error. And contradictory to what most gamers would expect, the keyboard and mouse didn't dominate. In fact, it lost. Repeatedly.

"There will always be people that say the keyboard is better," Gross said during an interview on the floor of E3 2006. "In our game, we've found that's not the case. When we first started testing it, the keyboard tended to have an advantage in long distance combat, and the controller had an advantage in close combat. You could do things quicker on the controller (than the keyboard)."

Were the PC players just inexperienced? In most forums, people will argue that the keyboard and mouse combination is more efficient than the console controller, yet FASA's experience developing Shadowrun suggests otherwise.

"These were good, experienced Halo and Counterstrike players," Gross said when I suggested that maybe the PC team just wasn't up to par. "Some of these guys have held their own against Fatal1ty on the PC, and we put them against some pretty average console players."

Even with a mismatch of skill in favor of the PC, the keyboard and mouse combination consistently lost to the Xbox 360 controller. FASA's solution, of course, was to immediately start balancing out the game.

"We've been playing with the settings," said Gross. "We turned on magnetism (on the PC), some auto-aim. We adjusted the settings on the Xbox 360 to balance it out."

Over time, the numbers came back into balance, and control style became less important. Now, the FASA testing team plays every day, and no one is winning more than the others.

"Whatever you prefer, you're going to do well," Gross pointed out. "There will be no advantage."

Still, it's interesting to note that the premier title designed to pit PC and Xbox users against each other showed that the Xbox 360 controller was actually better than the keyboard and mouse in their first tests.

Of course, a great deal depends on how the two systems are configured. For example, if auto-aim is turned on for the Xbox 360 and not for the PC, that would make a substantial difference.

For future strategies, though, if the Xbox controller is better at close combat and the mouse and keyboard are better at a distance, perhaps performance will be partially based on level size; knowing your game means playing on the levels that favor your controller.

Live Anywhere casts an interesting new light on a debate that's been raging for some time.

Another interesting note, display resolution doesn't seem to impact success, either. Unless you're utilizing a high definition TV, which only has a market penetration of about 20%, PC users will have more exact detail and pixel-per-pixel display accuracy than their home console counterparts. The average TV user will have an image that's extremely anti-aliased. Luckily, the difference doesn't seem to impact how well you play, and doesn't award an advantage to either system.
:udawg:

[CaptNKILL]

Yep that ends it 100%. Please dont turn this into a console vs pc thread.

[emailthatguy]

Wish they would make a good RPG out of it like Vampire: The masquared ... or even something big like Morrowing/Oblivion.

you lost me when you used morrowind/oblivion and good in the same sentence