View Full Version : Whatever happened to Half-Life 2?
JediKnight
08-13-02, 10:40 PM
What ever happened to that? Is Valve gonna let one of the industries biggest game fade away without a sequel? There was talk of a sequel years ago, but thats gone. I would love to see a new story with new graphics. Anyone?
saturnotaku
08-13-02, 11:34 PM
I'd like to see a sequel based on the Doom III engine but I don't think it's going to happen any time in the forseeable future.
I would hope that HL2 wouldn't end up being the Daikatana or Duke Nukem Forever of this decade. :(
Matthyahuw
08-13-02, 11:41 PM
I don't even think Valve admitted to be even doing the sequel...
JediKnight
08-13-02, 11:58 PM
Im almost positive Valve mentioned something about a sequel but stated their primary project, the Team Fortress series, was taking up most of its time. Too bad if they never come back with a sequel, but I guess if they know they cant beat HL, better not even make one and leave it at that.
StealthHawk
08-14-02, 12:08 AM
i'm sure they can do better with current technology than what was done in Half-Life. advances in CPU speed mean better physics and better AI are possible alone, which i'm sure those crazy guys at Valve could put to good use.
[Corporal Dan]
08-14-02, 12:13 AM
Team Fortress II is NOWHERE to be seen. Don't bother thinking about HL2
Valve = a bunch of one-hit-wonder, essentially talentless sellouts and coporate wh0res
Matthyahuw
08-14-02, 12:15 AM
oh boy TF2!
I drooled over that about 3yrs ago!
FOR-GET-IT!
delay delay dealy
When will dudes like Valve and the DNF team realize that games don't need to have the cutting-edge technologies to play a game and enjoy it...both had engine re-do's and I don't even think TF2's engine is done yet (but niether is Unreal's, the ever-evolving engine)
StealthHawk
08-14-02, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by [Corporal Dan]
Team Fortress II is NOWHERE to be seen. Don't bother thinking about HL2
Valve = a bunch of one-hit-wonder, essentially talentless sellouts and coporate wh0res
either that or they just want to milk Half-Life for all its worth until they absolutely have to release new tech...seems to be working so far :rolleyes:
[Corporal Dan]
08-14-02, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by StealthHawk
either that or they just want to milk Half-Life for all its worth until they absolutely have to release new tech...seems to be working so far :rolleyes:
That's what's been done so far.
Let's see.
HL
OP-FOR
TFC (Or TFG for gay edition, a bastardization of the immortal QWTF)
HL+Opfor+TFG pack
Blueshift+Opfor
CS Retail
HL+Opfor+TFG+Blueshift+CS Pack
Let's see.
HL was good. I also enjoyed OpFor quite a bit, money well spent, (although the ending was anticlimactic).
Blue shift sucked my ass (only a good buy if you DONT have opfor)
So did TFG (Not really a game, but that doesnt stop it from sucking!)
CS, needs no words, as everyone knows it's a big piece of donkey-doo.
Yes, Valve sucks.
One good game, from the marketing of 5!
(Remember, OpFor came from gearbox)
StealthHawk
08-14-02, 01:36 AM
and yet the "powered by Half-Life technology" games/mods keep coming. and what is the single "engine" that the most popular games are on right now? you can guess what it is.
i never meant to say Valve wasn't milking Half-Life, but since Day of Defeat 3.0 or whatever was recently released, they've still got more milking planned it seems.
-=DVS=-
08-14-02, 03:17 AM
I possitive there will be Half Life 2 in near future they did mention it , they prolly remakeing it to look good on DX 9 :eek: :rolleyes: :p :D
CS, needs no words, as everyone knows it's a big piece of donkey-doo.
huh? Thats the kind of thing someone who sucks at it says..
CS is the most popular online game ever!! Considering it's a freebie mod for a game, I'd say it's prolly the most successful mod ever!!
fool!
Philibob
08-14-02, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by Nutty
huh? Thats the kind of thing someone who sucks at it says..
CS is the most popular online game ever!! Considering it's a freebie mod for a game, I'd say it's prolly the most successful mod ever!!
fool!
Everyone's allowed their own opinion aren't they?
I have to say it's been successful but I don't like it. The original Half-Life was better (never completed it without cheating) Opposing Forces and Blue Shift were too easy and the story line wasn't as good (might sound strange because it was the same story but I didn't enjoy it as much)
I would like to see a Half-Life 2 but I would more rather them not bring one out than bring it out and it's worse than Blue Shift.
It's hard to match a game like Half-Life.
saturnotaku
08-14-02, 08:51 AM
CS among my LAN gaming friends was cool for all of about 2 weeks then we stopped playing it because we thought it was lame.
I'm not holding my breath for HL2, especially since TF2 is nowhere to be seen.
nin_fragile14
08-14-02, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by [Corporal Dan]
That's what's been done so far.
Let's see.
HL
OP-FOR
TFC (Or TFG for gay edition, a bastardization of the immortal QWTF)
HL+Opfor+TFG pack
Blueshift+Opfor
CS Retail
HL+Opfor+TFG+Blueshift+CS Pack
Let's see.
HL was good. I also enjoyed OpFor quite a bit, money well spent, (although the ending was anticlimactic).
Blue shift sucked my ass (only a good buy if you DONT have opfor)
So did TFG (Not really a game, but that doesnt stop it from sucking!)
CS, needs no words, as everyone knows it's a big piece of donkey-doo.
Yes, Valve sucks.
One good game, from the marketing of 5!
(Remember, OpFor came from gearbox)
Valve had nothing to do with Blue Shift or Counter-Strike. They did Half-Life and Team Fortress Classic, that's it. (And DM classic, but that's not worth mentioning ;) )
You give them more crap than they deserve. Half-Life has spawned some of the greatest mods ever made (Firearms, Day of Defeat, Counter-Strike and Team Fortress Classic are very fun games, regardless if it's "cool" to hate them. And the fact they all came from Half-Life is incredible.) Most games are lucky to have ONE good mod, and Half-Life has four.
Valve has made one game and TFC, and for 30 bucks, I got about 2 years worth of entertainment. They haven't done something new yet, but who cares? Valve knows they can release any game at any time, and it'll sell millions. I'm kind of mad that they hyped TF2 up and then had it dissapear, but calling them "one-hit wonders" when they've never made more than ONE game, is ridiculous.
HL2 come on, give gordan a break will ye. He's killed Nihilanth, the outworld has been taken over by the sleazy lawer dude end of game.
HL was one of the best games which came out during its time. It was articulate and the idea of being involved in a movie was totally new back then. NOLF and NOLF2 are probably other games which i can think of which where genre breakers. Oh and hitman2:D
Oh [CD] u forgot about CS:CZ :D
yeah i know it is a rip off but i do agree that the multiplayer aspect of CS is totally fun, fast packed and engaging. I can play CS for hours but i cant play SOF2 etc that long.
AA did not really turn out so, turned out more like RSpear. SOF2 multiplayer... ugh hate the noob cannons and the nade launcher on the m4.
TF2 is currently being put through its preemptive phase :D especialy with cs:cz coming out.
[Corporal Dan]
08-14-02, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Nutty
huh? Thats the kind of thing someone who sucks at it says..
CS is the most popular online game ever!! Considering it's a freebie mod for a game, I'd say it's prolly the most successful mod ever!!
fool!
My kill ratio is 2:1 or better usually, so i don't think I suck. I can hold my own.
CS is a big POS
Britney Spears is the most successful popstar ever!
Doesnt mean she doesnt suck! (in more ways than one!)
[Corporal Dan]
08-14-02, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by nin_fragile14
Valve had nothing to do with Blue Shift or Counter-Strike. They did Half-Life and Team Fortress Classic, that's it. (And DM classic, but that's not worth mentioning ;) )
You give them more crap than they deserve. Half-Life has spawned some of the greatest mods ever made (Firearms, Day of Defeat, Counter-Strike and Team Fortress Classic are very fun games, regardless if it's "cool" to hate them. And the fact they all came from Half-Life is incredible.) Most games are lucky to have ONE good mod, and Half-Life has four.
Valve knows they can release any game at any time, and it'll sell millions. I'm kind of mad that they hyped TF2 up and then had it dissapear, but calling them "one-hit wonders" when they've never made more than ONE game, is ridiculous.
Didn't stop valve and sierra from marketing them to death! DM classic, yea forgot about it. If you want classic DM, fire up Quake1 and kick some ass while enjoying the much better physics/movement.
Firearms = fun, i'll give you that. DOD sucked after beta 1.1. CS is just plain lame and...
TFC is an abomination. It is an embarassment to the TF community. My ICQ contactlist is 387 people long, mostly old clanmembers from my MegaTF days. We had a massive chat session when tfc was released. Everyone agreed that it sucked. It never captued the essence of TF and what made it great. It's overly n00b-friendly. It's unbalanced. The maps are screwed....
You want a grenade timer in TF1? fire up notepad and script one in. TFC already has one, so the useless n00bs can pull off things that only the pros could do. The maps? Hey look, there are NO SHADOWS ANYWHERE! There goes the stealth aspect of the game? Also, the geometry is different! No more rocket jumps where you used to be able to do them! Oh look! A n00b red team hwguy against a platoon of blue, veteran Soldiers and demomen! Guess who wins? The hwguy!
Valve knows they can release any game at any time, and it'll sell millions.
Yes, and that is so very wrong.
People don't look at a game for what it's worth. It will sell millions because there are millions of idiots out there. People who use AOL and Compaq computers.
SavagePaladin
08-14-02, 04:49 PM
if HL2 is as good as HL1, then i'll be glad to pay for it. All that really makes me sick is the bloody 80 meg patches.
What the hell. I don't have blue shift, I don't want TFC and DMC and whatever else they package in there, and I would really like to split the skull of whatever idiot thought that up.
nin_fragile14
08-14-02, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by [Corporal Dan]
You want a grenade timer in TF1? fire up notepad and script one in. TFC already has one, so the useless n00bs can pull off things that only the pros could do. The maps? Hey look, there are NO SHADOWS ANYWHERE! There goes the stealth aspect of the game? Also, the geometry is different! No more rocket jumps where you used to be able to do them! Oh look! A n00b red team hwguy against a platoon of blue, veteran Soldiers and demomen! Guess who wins? The hwguy!
It sounds like you have hardly played this game. An HWguy is not the invincible type that people who don't play (like you) claim he is. And why does Team Fortress Classic have to be just like Team Fortress down to the GEOMETRY of the level? They can try different things in a remake, and just because it isn't exactly the same as the original doesn't make it bad. You just sound like another typical guy who thinks he was one of the "first" of a type of game, and any other remake or attempt after that is "crap" and "not as good as the original". TFC is a lot of fun, easy to play, and no one except die hard TF players give two shi*** if it's anything like the original.
The Baron
08-14-02, 05:25 PM
HL... it was good. It was great. Hell, it was the best game in YEARS, if not ever... :p
But CS... POS. Community just sucks too damn much. I don't want to join a server filled with the self-proclaimed 1337. I want to join a server where SOMEBODY besides me might actually have the best kill ratio :p
I'd pick Tribes 2 over any HL mod any day of the week, unless it's a 16 player TFC match on 2fort ;)
StealthHawk
08-14-02, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by Nutty
huh? Thats the kind of thing someone who sucks at it says..
CS is the most popular online game ever!! Considering it's a freebie mod for a game, I'd say it's prolly the most successful mod ever!!
fool!
wrong. CS(prior to 1.4) had ridiculous gun physics and was buggy all around. however, with 1.4 it is all n00b friendly.
just because it is popular doesn't make it good. too many people try to play a 1 man game(ie "if i only survive by camping so be it. screw the team or the mission objective")
CS was interesting when it was new, it was one of the only tactical shooters. but it is *horrible* as a tactical shooter/team game. my friends who used to be CS obsessed say that America's Army is a much better tactical game, where teamwork is absolutely necessary.
Valve = a bunch of one-hit-wonder, essentially talentless sellouts and coporate wh0res
100% agree :)
By the way, why doesn't anyone play Quake 3 Fortress anymore? I downloaded the latest version (2.2) the other day and boy does it look awesome, the graphics on some of the maps are really sweet. TFC on the HL engine looks crappy by comparison. I also think Q3F plays better. But there are only about 20-50 people online anymore, there used to be hundreds.
[Corporal Dan]
08-14-02, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by nin_fragile14
It sounds like you have hardly played this game. An HWguy is not the invincible type that people who don't play (like you) claim he is. And why does Team Fortress Classic have to be just like Team Fortress down to the GEOMETRY of the level? They can try different things in a remake, and just because it isn't exactly the same as the original doesn't make it bad. You just sound like another typical guy who thinks he was one of the "first" of a type of game, and any other remake or attempt after that is "crap" and "not as good as the original". TFC is a lot of fun, easy to play, and no one except die hard TF players give two shi*** if it's anything like the original.
I've played the game. I was playing it a lot because my stupid friends wanted to denounce thir roots.
In qwtf, you, as a soldier could dance around an hwguy and pepper him with rockets, he'd have no chance in hell 1 vs 1. That's why hwguys were always there for support
in tfc it's not unusual to see a single hwguy kill a bunch of enemies. All one has to is mash down the RMB and point in the enemy's general direction. Also, ive noticed that hwguy minigin bullets dont become wear with distance, while in q1, the bullets acted like shotgun shots. At long range, even if they hit, they did little or no damage
I tried playing as an hwguy a few times, at the end of the games, i had significantly more frags than i would get as a soldier (my best class) for instance
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