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djstriker91
05-28-06, 12:24 AM
I've been saving up for a good 1.5-2 years now and I finally have enough money to afford a fairly good computer...so money to me is no option.

I've decided on getting SLi 7900GTXs but have a quick question about motherboards. I'm sorry if this is the wrong forum but technically it's about the cards...well I'm getting 2 7900GTXs and I'm on the fence between two motherboards...this DFI one (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813136166) or this ASUS one (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131540). I'd like to have room for a soundcard (I'm getting an X-Fi Fatality) and if there's any mobo out there that can hold a 2nd PCI card along with SLi 7900GTXs, I'd like to have a WiFi card in there...if it's not possible, no biggie, I can get a USB wifi connection.

I was totally going for the DFI but then I saw the A8N in the 7900GTX review (I'm getting the XFX 7900GTX) and I noticed the space.

So basically, three questions:

1) Is there as much/more/less room in the DFI mobo I linked as there is in the ASUS?

2) Is there any Mobo that can do 7900 SLi'd with 2 open regular PCI slots?

3) Is the 7900GTX the best (by best I mean most powerful for gaming, regardless of price) card on the market right now?

I'm sorry if this is in the wrong forum or anything, I'm new here, long time reader of the reviews and since I'm just about to get a new computer, I considered here the best place to ask a question.

Thanks again for the help and keep up the great work.

-djstriker91

watever
05-28-06, 12:33 AM
well this is probably not what u wanna hear but.... why dont u wait a little bit for the new intel conroe cpu to come out. Its supposed to give the A64 a good ass whoopin from what i hear. And its reasonably priced.

djstriker91
05-28-06, 12:42 AM
How long?

djstriker91
05-28-06, 01:33 AM
Well, getting back to my original question, any other suggestions/answers?

watever
05-28-06, 02:11 AM
well the release date is july 23 for conroe. If your looking for amd, they have a new socket now "AM2". If your building a new computer, i would look into either the AM2 which is out now, or wait a couple months and get conroe which from preliminary benchmarks, looks like it will be a monster.

SLippe
05-28-06, 02:12 AM
Check out this one...

http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=123-K8-NF47-AX&family=20

bkswaney
05-28-06, 02:13 AM
Wait a little longer. The Intel Conroe is well worth waiting for.
I'm waiting to. ;)
The Conroe wipes the floor with anything AMD has out.

I'm ready to buy my motherboard and new case now but I'm going
to hold off. The end of july is what I hear.

snowmanwithahat
05-28-06, 10:13 AM
given your options, i'd pick the ASUS board, just because it's a silent cooling solution for the chipsets...... i really don't think either has a space advantage....

however, i also think it'd be much wiser to wait... so far things are looking great for Intel's new Conroe, but if you really have to build a system, go with the ASUS motherboard

a12ctic
05-28-06, 01:56 PM
i wouldnt wait for conroe in your situation, get a 3000+ amd64 and overclock it to 2.7ghz (on STOCK COOLING, if you dont trust it, get a better heatsink and fan) then with all the money you saved buy lots of cheap hookers ;)

100$ amd64 2.7ghz=owns anything intels releasing in the next few months (price/performance)

jAkUp
05-28-06, 02:05 PM
Not a $183 conroe that would scale to 2.7GHz ;)

Dazz
05-28-06, 03:11 PM
I've had bad luck with Intel chips so i am staying away from them, the 2.8HT GHz P4 i had was horrible could never get it 100% past 3.0GHz no matter the voltage since then i have kept away from Intel.

Infinity666
05-28-06, 05:39 PM
I've had bad luck with Intel chips so i am staying away from them, the 2.8HT GHz P4 i had was horrible could never get it 100% past 3.0GHz no matter the voltage since then i have kept away from Intel.


that is bad luck, my 2.8 will do 3.5 on stock voltages w/air. But do stay away from p4's

a12ctic
05-28-06, 05:42 PM
the p4's were just junk chips, its not ur fault :p

einstein_314
05-29-06, 05:24 PM
the p4's were just junk chips, its not ur fault :p
As said by Tim Sweeney himself :D

...the Pentium 4 architecture sucks. It sucked all along. Even at the height of it's sucking, when it was running at 3.6GHz and not performing as well as a 2GHz AMD64... People were reluctant to say it sucked... so IT SUCKS!...

grey_1
05-29-06, 06:25 PM
Not a $183 conroe that would scale to 2.7GHz ;)
OR higher:D

ViN86
05-29-06, 07:55 PM
no one wants to wait, but seriously, wait for a DX10 vid card and the newer cpus. you wont regret it when they come out.

its all summed up by these three letters..... G80 :D

einstein_314
05-29-06, 10:15 PM
no one wants to wait, but seriously, wait for a DX10 vid card and the newer cpus. you wont regret it when they come out.

its all summed up by these three letters..... G80 :D
Last time I checked, 8 and 0 were numbers not letters :D

ViN86
05-30-06, 09:13 AM
Last time I checked, 8 and 0 were numbers not letters :D
ive killed for less





haha :p

GreenWolf
06-06-06, 03:02 PM
1. After Conroe arrives it will take a few more months to work out all the issues with its new chipset, so don't wait. Does anyone know of any new CPU that arrived without chipset/MB problems? None that I know of.

2. THe 512MB 7900 GTX in SLi will be a waste unless you have a very high resolution monitor, one of the new 30" LCD monitors, or are running 3 or more LCD monitors. Just make sure your video cards match up with the capabilities of your monitor. For a 20.1" LCD running 1200x1600 res, a pair of 7900 GTs is almost overkill.

3. The DFI, ASUS or eVGA MB are all OK, but I have personally have had bad luck with the ASUS boards. If you intend to OC, go with the DFI, less issues and more OC options.

4. I've been running a USB wireless G through a Linksys MIMO wireless router and I am very happy with it. No issues, easy setup and runs as fast as my hardwire connection on DSL. I've run 2 wireless and 1 NIC (3 PCs) through my DSL with no slowdown at all on WoW. So if you need the PCI slot for something else the USB wireless setup is a very viable option.

Sorry I did not see this thread earlier.

saturnotaku
06-06-06, 03:06 PM
For a 20.1" LCD running 1200x1600 res, a pair of 7900 GTs is almost overkill.

Not if you add in healthy amounts of AA and AF, which most folks running SLI setups can/will do.

GreenWolf
06-06-06, 03:31 PM
on a 19" Hyundai L90D+ 8ms LCD @ 1280x1024 with all the eye candy turned on and I have a pair of eVGA 7800GTs and I can not tell the difference in SLi. In fact the single 7800GT running on this monitor is close to the performance of the 6800GS's in SLi. The 7800GTs in SLi on my 19" CRT @ 1600x1200 with all the eye candy turned on pulls way ahead of the SLi 6800GS rig. The faster cards only really shine at higher resolutions, or on very large monitors. JMHO.

mon
06-06-06, 05:09 PM
i wouldnt wait for conroe in your situation, get a 3000+ amd64 and overclock it to 2.7ghz (on STOCK COOLING, if you dont trust it, get a better heatsink and fan) then with all the money you saved buy lots of cheap hookers ;)

100$ amd64 2.7ghz=owns anything intels releasing in the next few months (price/performance)


lol :) :) :) :)

saturnotaku
06-06-06, 05:49 PM
on a 19" Hyundai L90D+ 8ms LCD @ 1280x1024 with all the eye candy turned on and I have a pair of eVGA 7800GTs and I can not tell the difference in SLi. In fact the single 7800GT running on this monitor is close to the performance of the 6800GS's in SLi. The 7800GTs in SLi on my 19" CRT @ 1600x1200 with all the eye candy turned on pulls way ahead of the SLi 6800GS rig. The faster cards only really shine at higher resolutions, or on very large monitors. JMHO.

Right, but you were talking about at resolutions of 1600x1200 7900GTs being overkill, to which I pointed out that it's not. You never brought up 1280x1024 until just now, and at that point, I would agree with you.

GreenWolf
06-08-06, 07:10 PM
Right, but you were talking about at resolutions of 1600x1200 7900GTs being overkill, to which I pointed out that it's not. You never brought up 1280x1024 until just now, and at that point, I would agree with you.

As I said, For a 20.1" LCD running 1200x1600 res, a pair of 7900 GTs is almost overkill. The emphasis being on ALMOST. Anything less and it is overkill.

Hope that clears it up for you.