Miami Heat FTW!!!!!

[Marvel_us]

:balloon:

2006 NBA Champions!(nana2)

For all those who thought we couldn't be dallas or sweep, this is for you!:D

Wade for MVP! Well deserved at that. OMG, parade this week!!!!!

[Sazar]

Will the real MVP please stand up, please stand up, please stand up.

Will the REAL MVP please stand up.

WHAT !!! WHAT !!!!!!!

:wonder: DWAYNE FTW!!!

[Zelda_fan]

Will the real MVP please stand up, please stand up, please stand up.

Will the REAL MVP please stand up.

WHAT !!! WHAT !!!!!!!

:wonder: DWAYNE FTW!!!

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but congratz to miami

[Sazar]

:wonder:

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[Zelda_fan]

hey the pic was on your hard drive not mine

[Sazar]

It's actually hot-linked from some random pic I found online. I spent 16 seconds looking for it and then linking it just for you :)

[Zelda_fan]

I spent 16 seconds looking for it and then linking it just for you :)

gosh I'm touched.

[1337_Like_ThaT]

Yep congrats to Dwayne Wade, he deserved it this year, Nash did not.

[Marvel_us]

Parade this Friday! Hopefully I can go and it doesn't interfere with work. If so I'll take some pics for you guys.

[|JuiceZ|]

O yes Baby! :cool: Glad to see Payton & Mourning finally get rings too towards the end of their careers.

[Mrs JuiceZ]

Frigggin Sports Fanatics! j/k GO HEATS! Has anybody ever seen Mad TV's Shaq impression?? LOL

[|JuiceZ|]

Frigggin Sports Fanatics! j/k GO HEATS! Has anybody ever seen Mad TV's Shaq impression?? LOL

Its "HEAT" Baby not HEATS, lol girlies, we know what you meant though :p

[Mrs JuiceZ]

Its "HEAT" Baby not HEATS, lol girlies, we know what you meant though :p


oh! lmao. Well I tried...

[Sound_Card]

Yep congrats to Dwayne Wade, he deserved it this year, Nash did not.

o come on!!!! Thats BS. :thumbdwn:


IMO, Nash deserved just as well. He carried his team all the way to the western confrence finals with out the one and only stoudimire. He did not even have a center on his team, because Kurt thomas was injured all season. Nash is a passer, wade is a ball hog.( a danm good one too lol.)

leader in assist
leader in free throws
top 10 leader in points

not to add that the suns are the # one scoring team in the nba, as well as free throws and 3 pointers.

NASH deserved it, so don't take away any of his credit.

It's amazing as he was once a soccor player.

[Zelda_fan]

Its "HEAT" Baby not HEATS, lol girlies, we know what you meant though :p

lmao I know!!! My sister on her AIM profile wrote "go heaters!" (her boyfriend likes basketball). I quickly set her straight that no one in their right mind calls them the heatears.


AND THANK YOU SOUND CARD! Finally we have someone around here who knows a thing or two about basketball.

[schuey74]

Dwyane is the baddest mofo in the league right now. As humble as he is and as much as he wants to credit his team for this championship, there is no doubt he carried this team completely on his back from the end of game three until last night. The only consistency the Heat displayed was Shaq's free throw shooting and the other guards FG shooting - in other words they consistently sucked. There were a few flashes of brilliance from other players like Zo's performance last night, but all in all, it was the D. Wade show. He turned it on when it counted and did not disappoint Heat fans.

So congratulations Heat fans on what is likely only the first of several more championships heading your way in the coming decade! What a bad @$$........

[Zelda_fan]

becasue we all know Shaq, one of the greatest players of all time, had nothing to do with the win....

Don't get me wrong, Wade is VERY good. But he certainly isn't "the baddest mofo in the league." He is just a great player on a great team.

[schuey74]

becasue we all know Shaq, one of the greatest players of all time, had nothing to do with the win....

Don't get me wrong, Wade is VERY good. But he certainly isn't "the baddest mofo in the league." He is just a great player on a great team.
Were you watching the 2006 Finals or old DVDs from '00 - '02? Shaq is one of the greatest players of all time, no doubt about it. But he played like **** in this series (and most of the playoffs for that matter) and that is a fact. Try as you might, you can not hide the fact that while he was the focal point of the Heat's offense they failed and failed miserably. Mostly because of his fiasco at the free throw line.

Dwyane took over the series w/ six minutes left in game three and that's it. I don't see how there can be an arguement there. Shaq flopped in these finals big time - the stats say it and so does my video of the series. Wade led the Heat past a Pistons team which many considered one of the best teams ever. And then he schooled the Mavs for three games and six minutes. When the offense ran thru Shaq the Heat failed and when it ran thru D. Wade they won.

Great players lead their teams to championships and since Wade did just that......he is the baddest mofo in the league. There is no doubt that without Wade the Heat would not have won this championship. I can confidently say that without Shaq the Heat may have won this series in four or five instead of six games....Riley would have never wasted his time running the offense thru anyone other than Wade if Shaq wasn't there.

[Sazar]

My $0.02 on Shaq.

He can't dominate games like he used to because of the way defences are allowed to collapse on his based on the rule changes over the last couple of years.

He still had a pretty good playoffs and had a 30/20 game as well thrown in there.

For the finals, he doubled or tripled all the time and this helped open the game up for Wade. Note Wade was not doubled much till the 5th and 6th games. This didn't mean he had it easy, he is not a pure jump-shooter and primarily gets his points in the paint through drives and by scoring from the charity stripe.

If Shaq had not been there commanding the attention of the other team and getting them into foul trouble (the mavs kept getting themselves into foul trouble by intentionally fouling him, witness game 5 OT for example), it would have been harder for the Heat to win. Wade has proven he can lead the Heat to victory without Shaq, this is why he is special.

The lakers were built around Shaq so it was harder for Kobe to lead the team to a win without a dominant post player. With the Heat, Wade is the focus and Shaq is the Goose to Wade's Maverick.

For Zelda, the heat are hardly a great team. You cannot build a team around any one of the players on the roster except Wade. Riley knows this which is why he sought to get contributors, much like the lakers did with Shaq AND Kobe.

To counter your obvious implication that Nash is more important, remove Nash from the equation and there are 2 players on the roster for the Suns that I would be able to build around, Diaw and Marion. Marion was with the suns playing in the playoffs before Nash got there. Diaw showed during the playoffs this year just how versatile and talented he is.

And Schuey, without Shaq, the Heat would have been swept.

[schuey74]

My $0.02 on Shaq.

He can't dominate games like he used to because of the way defences are allowed to collapse on his based on the rule changes over the last couple of years.

He still had a pretty good playoffs and had a 30/20 game as well thrown in there.

For the finals, he doubled or tripled all the time and this helped open the game up for Wade. Note Wade was not doubled much till the 5th and 6th games. This didn't mean he had it easy, he is not a pure jump-shooter and primarily gets his points in the paint through drives and by scoring from the charity stripe.

If Shaq had not been there commanding the attention of the other team and getting them into foul trouble (the mavs kept getting themselves into foul trouble by intentionally fouling him, witness game 5 OT for example), it would have been harder for the Heat to win. Wade has proven he can lead the Heat to victory without Shaq, this is why he is special.

The lakers were built around Shaq so it was harder for Kobe to lead the team to a win without a dominant post player. With the Heat, Wade is the focus and Shaq is the Goose to Wade's Maverick.
Your arguement of Shaq being doubled and tripled teamed all the time is greatly exaggerated. In every post game press conference Avery Johnson spoke over and over about doubling and tripling Wade. Wade was the primary focus of the Mavs defense from the very beginning. You can't double and triple team two guys at the same time. Why do you think Shaq shot over 60% from the field? Because he was being played one on most of the time. Sure, if he holds the ball or pull some sort of spin move, the defense would collapse on him. But that's not the same as the constant double and triple teams you imply. The Mavs were more than content to play him one on one and foul him to prevent any easy shots. And of course, Shaq obliged by shooting under 30% from the line.

So since he wasn't always doubled or tripled up, his stats easily speak for themselves. His backup, Zo, could have averaged the same or better in both scoring and rebounding while being a stronger defensive force and less of a liability from the line. Of course, it's doubtful that Zo could have played all those extended minutes, but the point is that there are many centers in this league that could have done the merely adequate job that Shaq did throughout this year's playoffs, but most notably in the Finals.

He basically averaged one game per playoff series where he played well, although he was great a couple of times. Shaq played superbly in game six against the Pistons. He flat out did a great job of leading the team in that game. I guess I'm just a bit disappointed in him as I expected to see at least twice as many of his good performances. He use to do that 4/5 games so I just expected more than 1/5 in these playoffs. From what I saw, I don't know if he's got much more than one year left in him.

And Schuey, without Shaq, the Heat would have been swept.
I suppose you forgot to add an IMO in there, or at least imply it in some way since your opinion does not represent the general consensus from what I've read and seen on tv today. ;)

[Zelda_fan]

To counter your obvious implication that Nash is more important, remove Nash from the equation and there are 2 players on the roster for the Suns that I would be able to build around, Diaw and Marion. Marion was with the suns playing in the playoffs before Nash got there. Diaw showed during the playoffs this year just how versatile and talented he is.

The suns also had stoudamire back when they didn't have nash. I garuntee that Suns wouldn't have even made the playoffs had it not been for Nash.

Diaw would absolutly suck without Nash. Look at him numbers before he came to phx. 4.8 points per game. All of a sudden with the top point guard he is scoring 13.3 ppg. You want to tell me that's all Diaw's doing? LMAO.

Suns will obviously build around Stoudamire. Anything other than that would be idiotic. Obviously you can't build a team around Nash, but in this past year he is by far the most important player on the team. BY FAR.

[Sazar]

The suns also had stoudamire back when they didn't have nash. I garuntee that Suns wouldn't have even made the playoffs had it not been for Nash.

Stoudemaire did something that seems to be beyond your comprehension. He IMPROVED his game, ridiculously.

Notice what Elton Brand did this past season?

Diaw would absolutly suck without Nash. Look at him numbers before he came to phx. 4.8 points per game. All of a sudden with the top point guard he is scoring 13.3 ppg. You want to tell me that's all Diaw's doing? LMAO.

Diaw also did that little something called IMPROVING. You know, like Brand and Parker, Lebron, Wade and others did this season. Like what Kobe did in his 3rd and 4th seasons in the league.

Some people actually work on their game :)

You think Diaw, at the end of the season, was putting up close to triple doubles every night solely because of Nash? For a Suns fan (which I assume you are) you sure don't give your team a lot of credit.

Suns will obviously build around Stoudamire. Anything other than that would be idiotic. Obviously you can't build a team around Nash, but in this past year he is by far the most important player on the team. BY FAR.

Currently the Suns are built around Nash. D'Antoni is an offense first coach and his team is built to run and gun. Reminds me a lot of the kind of philosophy employed by Nelson when Nash was there. Run and gun. Amare is the future of the suns (and I am hoping he is going to be fully recovered from his micro-fracture surgery(watching Webber is painful :( ). Nash is the most important player on the team offensively, I will never dispute that because you can tell from the scoring numbers when he doesn't play.

Anyhoo, I hope the Heat can complement Shaq and Wade with some more players over the off-season. Zo might be back, but for his sake (and his health) I hope he retires. The torn calf muscle should have been a big sign that his body is creaking.

[Zelda_fan]

Nash is the most important player on the team offensively, I will never dispute that because you can tell from the scoring numbers when he doesn't play.

thank you....

which is why I think he ought to be MVP. I can understand if you think LeBron or Wade should have won it, but to say Nash shouldn't have even been a candadite is absurd.

[Sazar]

Note I said offensively.

[Zelda_fan]

Note I said offensively.

obviously someone who is 6'3" isn't going to be a great defender.