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Hakaslak
06-21-06, 12:19 PM
I've been following this community a lot, and although I don't post too much, I still love this forum lol. </stupid>

Anywho, I have a evga GeForce 7950 in my rig, but I let my friend borrow it, so I ordered a 7300GS o live with for 2 weeks. Don't even ask... he had a date or something or other. Hell if I know <_< ...

So the next day, this POS video card that is smaller than my sound card comes, I plug it in, and start playing games. I am blown away. Obviously, I had to turn the resolution from 1900x1200 to 1024x768 and sometimes 800x600, but the card is a really really good card..... it surprised me. Even though the graphics looks like crap (in comparison), you get used to it after a while. It can run CSS at around 40 fps at max settings,4x AA,16xAF and 1024x768, and runs just fine.

Need for Speed Most Wated was also fine, but I'm having problems with FRAPS, so I can't post my FPS now... but let's just say that at the medium lowish settings (no AA no AF) it's still smooth. I have no tearing, no lagging, no flickering textures that I had with my SLI 7800s, no problems :P

The only game I couldn't run was Oblivion, and I don't know what that game does that is so special, but it murdered the poor thing, and I was still in the Bravil Mages Guild... T_T. No Oblivion for 2 weeks :thumbdwn:.

But what really surprised me was the price. at $80 for next day delivery ($20+ for shipping) It was a great bargain. Honestly, I feel that most of us 'hardcore gamers' need to take a step back and actually use some of the cards we bash, either because of review sites or paper specs. Yes, it does have a POS 64 bit bus, it had 'TurboCache', it doesn't even have RAM sinks! However, I feel that the video cards that nVidia (I have no clue about ATi) , at all price points, are good deals. They can run all the gamnes I play, sans Oblivion, and they perform very well. It is quiet, small, doesn't need a 1KW PSU, and still has dual outputs and s-video out.

I've told many prosepective gamers on what to put in a PC for games, and I've always sciffed at anything below 2nd tier. (you know, 7900, 7600, 7300... The 7600 is second tier). But now, after my experiences with the crappiest of the crap 7 series, I might have to rethink my impressions of hardware.

I know we all like to compare benchmarks, either in game or out, but still, perhaps we're going a little too consumeristic? We blindly drool at the latest and greatest (I know I do), but how do we compare gameplay without actually using the cards? I know most of you haven't seriously used anything like a 7300, and when I say that, I mean for more than a day running benchmarks. I mean day in and day out use, actually overclocking and tweaking the card.

</rant>

I STILL LOVE MY 7950!!!!

ED! GIVE IT BACK ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!

AND DONT GIVE IT BACK TO ME LIKE THAT DUDE THAT HAD A 'ACCIDNT' ON HIS 6800 2 YEARS BACK... <_<;;

BTW - Anyone have the link to that thread? I can't find it. It was ROFL

Stoneyguy
06-21-06, 01:57 PM
I hope GDUG (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=71366) doesn't read this. :p

a12ctic
06-21-06, 02:01 PM
I hope GDUG (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=71366) doesn't read this. :p
rofl, he cant do hdr+aa on oblivion@40+Fps with his 1300pro :p hahaha what a troll

superklye
06-21-06, 02:28 PM
Yup, this card rocks. There's a GT version that has a 128-bit bus which would kick even more ass. I was very, VERY impressed with the GS when I reviewed it a few months back.

msxyz
06-21-06, 02:38 PM
No, the 7300 is not that bad, considering it has a 64bit bus (but use a crossbar approach) and it lacks of the advanced Framebuffer/Z compression feature implemented since the GeForceFX. You can even use AA2x in most games.

Actually I think turbocache is hurting its performance more than it helps. I tried lowering the RAM to 512MB (the only known way to "disable" turbocache unless someone finds a method in the drivers) and performance went up by 5-10% on average. Too bad many today games are memory hungry and 512 are not enough.

nemecb
06-21-06, 03:57 PM
I was a little gunshy about low-end cards after making the mistake of buying a 5200, but I now realize that was just that whole generation of nVidia cards.:)

hectorsm
06-22-06, 07:41 PM
Here is a review of the 7300GT against the X1300 Pro. The 7300GT seems to be an excellent budget card.

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=563&p=0

Hakaslak
06-23-06, 11:36 AM
I made the mistake of running gmaes in Windows Vista.

Not a good idea... I went back into Windows Server x64, and my FPS jumped up 60%!!!!!


(nana2) (nana2) (nana2)

snowmanwithahat
06-28-06, 11:45 PM
i agree, the 7300 gt isn't bad at all from what it seems, then again, we all have huge expectations. however when i ordered my 6800 GT i had to resort to an fx 5200 pci, while i was waiting. and it really isn't all that bad, atleast for CS:S with a decent system. and if the 5200 can do it decently i'm sure a 7300 gt would be great for someone who doesn't have really high expectations

snowmanwithahat
06-28-06, 11:47 PM
look at this review guys... is the 7300GT that good?

http://www.pinoypc.net/modules/ipboard/index.php?s=&showtopic=41052&st=0&#entry657429

that doesn't look right, it's on par with my system as far as benchmarks are concerned...... i'd say he has a 7600 GT actually those seem to be about as good as a 6800 GT

coldpower27
06-29-06, 02:11 PM
Well the budget video cards are heading toward improvement as well.

Remember a Nvidia reference design 7300 GT is around a Geforce 6600 DDR2, which itself is around maybe a Geforce FX 5900 XT. So progress is occuring over time periods.

The overclocked from factory 7300 GT's are quite impressive, some of them get close enough to rival the Nvidia reference 7600 GS!!

Maverickman
06-30-06, 10:03 PM
Budget cards are getting better and better. The 7300 is no exception. It's definitely better than any 6200 or FX 5200. The later is one of the worst cards I've ever owned. It's not much better than integrated graphics.

Bearclaw
07-01-06, 03:49 PM
I bought the 7300 for my first build and I got it because it was super cheap ad I wanted to finish my. I am very impress with it. It works veyr well on all my games with the exception of FS2004. It gets a bit choppy with intensive weather or something of that sort. Other than that, I am veyr glad I got this. Very good bang for you buck.

swaaye
07-03-06, 02:06 PM
Well it sounds like the card is still a lot slower than a Radeon 9700 PRO would be. And 9700 is coming up on its 4 yr anniversary. So, is that really impressive? I don't think so. It's more useful than the 5200 was in its day though.

hemmy
07-04-06, 08:46 AM
You guys have to read the fine print, there are only a few 7300GT models with GDDR3 memory, and all of them use the 7600gs based core I THINK(not sure)

They have a lot of overclock potential and i have seen 7300GT SLI reach 10,000 in 3dmark05

Hakaslak
07-07-06, 11:02 AM
GDDR3... O_o

Anywho, I 'forcefully' retrieved my 7950 back - I broke into his house. ( and yes, it IS mine.) That's what he gets for keeping my card 2 extra weeks and telling me he 'lost' it. WTF? Well, now he really did lose it... no one knows ;)

Not my style, but still, all is well in gaming land. I left my 7300 in my CSS server hehe... for what? I have no clue.

No matter how great that 7300 was for 3 weeks, it get PWNED by a 7950 GX2.

(nana2)