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nickwild
07-27-06, 11:26 AM
Just checking... are there any available SLI mobos available for Conroe.

I've been waiting to build a new system for a long time and I'm focused on SLI.

I'm bummed to have to wait for the 590s to be released weeks from now if that is the case.

Even though the 975x has 2 pci express slots they will only work w/ crossfire right?

Thanks

jAkUp
07-27-06, 11:28 AM
Yup. No boards :(

nickwild
07-27-06, 11:40 AM
Will a 7950 card work on any of the conroe mobos?

jAkUp
07-27-06, 12:57 PM
Yes it will work.

ViN86
07-27-06, 02:08 PM
*cough* wait for the DFI board *cough*

excuse me :o

egyteam
07-27-06, 07:37 PM
ASUS P5NSLI is available now, based on NF570SLI and price range is 120~130$

lee63
07-27-06, 07:41 PM
ASUS P5NSLI is available now, based on NF570SLI and price range is 120~130$I would like to see a pic of this board (pirate) http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=ASUS+P5NSLI&hl=en&hs=QJv&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=X&oi=froogle&ct=title

sabersix1
07-28-06, 12:19 AM
The ASUS P5N32-SLI Deluxe SE is at TIGER in Combo with X6800 Conroe for $1399.99 seen here: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2368596&CatId=2406

lee63
07-28-06, 06:40 AM
The ASUS P5N32-SLI Deluxe SE is at TIGER in Combo with X6800 Conroe for $1399.99 seen here: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2368596&CatId=2406
Well if nothing else comes out sooner, I will prolly get this board :( for now

Mr_LoL
07-28-06, 08:53 AM
Dont know why it takes dfi so long to release their boards. AM2 has been out for 2 months now and they still have no boards out for that. Hurry up.

Riptide
07-28-06, 09:08 AM
lol nice typo on tigerdirect's site this morning.

$1399 for that ASUS board. LOL! :D

EDIT: N/M, comes with the 6800. :p

Heinz68
07-28-06, 09:48 AM
lol nice typo on tigerdirect's site this morning.

$1399 for that ASUS board. LOL! :D

EDIT: N/M, comes with the 6800. :p
That's not a bad deal compared to Intel Core2 DUO E6600 for 52,638.46 (about 67,000 USD).
the Inquirer said "Dell fixes Conroe demand problem" :)
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=33329

Xion X2
07-28-06, 09:52 AM
The ASUS P5N32-SLI Deluxe SE is at TIGER in Combo with X6800 Conroe for $1399.99 seen here: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2368596&CatId=2406

F*cking ridiculous.

Xion X2
07-28-06, 09:59 AM
Well if nothing else comes out sooner, I will prolly get this board :( for now

Why?? 400$ for a motherboard when you already have an FX-60? It's not even PCI-E x 16 SLi.

I realize the Quad benefit from the Conroes a little, but it's not a huge difference in performance--especially from an FX-60. Not to mention the fact that that Conroe motherboard is bandwidth-limited on the PCI-E even compared to what I have (x 16).

Conroe isn't needed for games right now. The first game to even push a system in that vicinity will be Crysis, and that won't be out until next year.

I would wait until prices come down a little, but that's me.

Riptide
07-28-06, 10:05 AM
Damn AMD for keeping the FX way up in price. I know I sound like a broken record but it just chaffs my hide. I want to max out my motherboard because I am going to be keeping it for at least a year maybe longer. :(

Xion X2
07-28-06, 10:07 AM
Damn AMD for keeping the FX way up in price. I know I sound like a broken record but it just chaffs my hide. I want to max out my motherboard because I am going to be keeping it for at least a year maybe longer. :(

Yeah. They do it because they know a lot of guys want to hang onto their current setups. It's similar to the 7800GTX issue; those stupid cards are still 450$+ because nVidia knows lots of guys want a second one for SLi.

sabersix1
07-28-06, 10:43 AM
Why?? 400$ for a motherboard when you already have an FX-60? It's not even PCI-E x 16 SLi.

I realize the Quad benefit from the Conroes a little, but it's not a huge difference in performance--especially from an FX-60. Not to mention the fact that that Conroe motherboard is bandwidth-limited on the PCI-E even compared to what I have (x 16).

Conroe isn't needed for games right now. The first game to even push a system in that vicinity will be Crysis, and that won't be out until next year.

I would wait until prices come down a little, but that's me.


EXCUSE ME! The ASUS P5N32-SLI Deluxe was the first Dual X16 PCIE Board to be mass produced with the Nvidia NForce4 x16 Northbridge and the Nvidia NF4 x16 MCP Southbridge, and it has a full x32 Lanes of PCI-Express Graphics. I Know, look at my sig. The ASUS P5N32-SLI Deluxe "SE" Model is using the same NForce4 North and South bridge Chipsets and it has 32 Lanes of PCI-Express Graphics as well. IT is not Bandwidth limited, and in fact has a total of 42 PCI-Express lanes with x32 for graphics and x7 Lanes for SATA, GB LAN, and x3 PCIE xOne Slots for ADD-ON Cards. The only difference is that the CPU Socket has had a HARD-MODIFICATION to except the Conroe Processors.

READ THIS FROM THE NVIDIA PRESS RELEASE:

Hot Hardware's Marco Chiappetta was also just as enthusiastic about the performance of the NVIDIA nForce4 SLI X16 media and communications processor (MCP), which helps form the Company's top-to-bottom product strategy for supporting Intel Core 2 Duo processors. Mr. Chiappetta wrote: "This motherboard, [the NVIDIA nForce4 SLI X16 MCP-based ASUS P5N32-SLI SE], in conjunction with Corsair's TWIN2X2048-6400C3 memory kit, a pair of GeForce 7900 GTX cards, and a Core 2 Extreme X6800 processor posted some of the highest benchmark scores we have ever seen!"

I CAN TELL YOU THAT IF YOU PUT TWIN 7950GX2's in QUAD-SLI on this board with a good set of Corsair PC2-8500C5 DDR2 RAM and the Conroe X6800 with its unlocked Multiplier, You are going to see ONE OF THE FASTEST GAMING BOARDS AVAILABLE IN THE WORLD. At least until the NV5 590 SLI IE is released from either DFI or the Gamers Republic of ASUS. (nana2) EVEN with the E6600 Conroe it will still kick the CRAP out of Your RIG and My Rig or even an AM2 FX62 on an M2N32-SLI Deluxe from ASUS.:jumping:

READ MORE HERE: http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=116466&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=888645&highlight=

ALSO the motherboard at Tiger only costs about $200+, the X6800 is priced by Tiger Direct for $1200, so that is where You get the $1400 price Tag for the Motherboard Combo.

BTW, ShopBLT.com has shipped my X6800 with Fedex yesterday and it should arrive tommorow.:D

jAkUp
07-28-06, 11:20 AM
Why?? 400$ for a motherboard when you already have an FX-60? It's not even PCI-E x 16 SLi.

I realize the Quad benefit from the Conroes a little, but it's not a huge difference in performance--especially from an FX-60. Not to mention the fact that that Conroe motherboard is bandwidth-limited on the PCI-E even compared to what I have (x 16).

Conroe isn't needed for games right now. The first game to even push a system in that vicinity will be Crysis, and that won't be out until next year.

I would wait until prices come down a little, but that's me.

Not entirely true, on average not even the 7950GX2 hits 4GB/s let alone 8GB/s. As for the price it is nowhere near $400. I have never seen an enthusiast board for over $250. (Except for the Venus)

Riptide
07-28-06, 11:26 AM
EXCUSE ME! The ASUS P5N32-SLI Deluxe was the first Dual X16 PCIE Board to be mass produced with the Nvidia NForce4 x16 Northbridge and the Nvidia NF4 x16 MCP Southbridge, and it has a full x32 Lanes of PCI-Express Graphics.Didn't the A8N32 come out before it?

jAkUp
07-28-06, 11:28 AM
I believe the A8N32 came first but that was a 939 board.

Riptide
07-28-06, 11:28 AM
Yeah. They do it because they know a lot of guys want to hang onto their current setups. It's similar to the 7800GTX issue; those stupid cards are still 450$+ because nVidia knows lots of guys want a second one for SLi.Yeah well I offered lee something for his FX. Not sure he'll take it or not but I had to try. I simply refuse to pay over a few bills for one used when you can get brand new retail 4800+ X2's for $350 not to mention Conroes for even better price/performance.

He might be able to find an idio... err person on ebay who would give him $500+ though. You never know.

jAkUp
07-28-06, 11:29 AM
Yea for $500 you could practically buy a Conroe, board and memory. I could see maybe spending $300 on an FX, but anything more than that would be better to invest on a Conroe.

Heinz68
07-28-06, 12:07 PM
Originally Posted by Riptide
Damn AMD for keeping the FX way up in price. I know I sound like a broken record but it just chaffs my hide. I want to max out my motherboard because I am going to be keeping it for at least a year maybe longer.
Yeah. They do it because they know a lot of guys want to hang onto their current setups. It's similar to the 7800GTX issue; those stupid cards are still 450$+ because nVidia knows lots of guys want a second one for SLi.
So what's the point?
AMD Athlon 64 FX-60 today - Price Range: $811.00 - $1,162.65 from 18 Sellers
http://www.pricegrabber.com/p__AMD_Athlon_64_FX_60_Dual_Core_Processor,__16020 345/sort_type=price

AnandTech test set up for Intel Core 2 Duo CPU's
Motherboard: ASUS P5W DH Deluxe (LGA-775) = 240 USD
Memory: Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 (1GB x 2) = 250 USD
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 = 190 USD
Total 680 USD = Compare to FX60 811 USD (Only CPU)

The easy overclocked E6300 (stock Intel heatsink/fan) beats anything AMD can offer, including the top end FX62
For people who don't like to overclock, the E6600 at about 350 USD (non overclocked) also beats anything AMD can offer, plus a cheaper mobo can be used than.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2802

So who is going to buy the FX60 for 811 USD "to hang onto their current setups", I doubt even the biggest AMD fanboy is going to buy at that price.

Smart AMD should realize the FX are no longer top end CPU's and should price them fast to about 350 USD to compete at least a little with what Intel has to offer.
Even at that price if I also had to buy new mobo and memory like for Socket AM2, I would have to go with Intel.

Xion X2
07-28-06, 02:12 PM
EXCUSE ME! The ASUS P5N32-SLI Deluxe was the first Dual X16 PCIE Board to be mass produced with the Nvidia NForce4 x16 Northbridge and the Nvidia NF4 x16 MCP Southbridge, and it has a full x32 Lanes of PCI-Express Graphics.

Then is this a typo on tigerdirect? Because this is what I was going by:

The P5N320 SLi SE Deluxe also features NVIDIA SLi technology at dual x 8

READ THIS FROM THE NVIDIA PRESS RELEASE:

Hot Hardware's Marco Chiappetta was also just as enthusiastic about the performance of the NVIDIA nForce4 SLI X16 media and communications processor (MCP), which helps form the Company's top-to-bottom product strategy for supporting Intel Core 2 Duo processors. Mr. Chiappetta wrote: "This motherboard, [the NVIDIA nForce4 SLI X16 MCP-based ASUS P5N32-SLI SE], in conjunction with Corsair's TWIN2X2048-6400C3 memory kit, a pair of GeForce 7900 GTX cards, and a Core 2 Extreme X6800 processor posted some of the highest benchmark scores we have ever seen!"

I don't see anywhere in there that specifies the cards run at 16x PCI-E in SLi mode. Several manufacturers will claim PCI-Ex16--as they will run that way with a single card, but sometimes won't with a two-card setup. The Asus A8N32 SLi is one, for example.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT IF YOU PUT TWIN 7950GX2's in QUAD-SLI on this board with a good set of Corsair PC2-8500C5 DDR2 RAM and the Conroe X6800 with its unlocked Multiplier, You are going to see ONE OF THE FASTEST GAMING BOARDS AVAILABLE IN THE WORLD. At least until the NV5 590 SLI IE is released from either DFI or the Gamers Republic of ASUS. (nana2) [b]EVEN with the E6600 Conroe it will still kick the CRAP out of Your RIG and My Rig or even an AM2 FX62 on an M2N32-SLI Deluxe from ASUS.:jumping:

Erm--nah, I won't go there. "Kick the crap out of" is relative to whatever person considers it to be. I've owned a GX2 before and, in my opinion, I can get equal to or better performance out of my GTX because I can triple-buffer and vsync together in DirectX whereas SLi can't.

And as far as the Conroe goes? Psssh. It's a hell of a CPU, no doubt, and it's noticeably better than the X2's. However, it's far from "kicking the crap out of" them. It's not even needed yet, really, and won't be until DX10 and the new generation of cards come out. The X2 series will do just fine for quite a while; right now games are having to play catchup.

ALSO the motherboard at Tiger only costs about $200+, the X6800 is priced by Tiger Direct for $1200, so that is where You get the $1400 price Tag for the Motherboard Combo.

Oh okay, because I had seen some kind of price listing from Intel that had the X6800 at 999$; that's what I was going off of. In fact, here it is--I just found it on anandtech:

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2802

It looks like tigerdirect's markups are insane.

BTW, ShopBLT.com has shipped my X6800 with Fedex yesterday and it should arrive tommorow.:D

Congrats. Eventually I'll upgrade, but it'll be at least until after DX10 arrives.

Xion X2
07-28-06, 02:18 PM
As for the price it is nowhere near $400. I have never seen an enthusiast board for over $250. (Except for the Venus)

I was going by the priceguide on anandtech which listed the X6800 as $999.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2802

1399 - 999 = 400; that's why I thought the mobo was more. I guess that was just an estimate; you had to figure some places are going to mark these up, I guess.