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Venous
07-28-06, 05:52 PM
what the hell is better

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5000 Box AM2

OR

Conroe?
:(

npras42
07-28-06, 05:57 PM
Erm... the Conroe... pretty simple. :)

Gaco
07-28-06, 06:49 PM
Short version: Conroe

Long version:

Well the NDA is up and all of these sites have independently verified what we have known for the past couple of months. Core 2 is the best chip you can buy, period. Performs the best, uses less energy, produces less heat, has better performand per watt as well as performance per dollar. Here are a sample of reviews (in alphabetical order)

AnandTech- http://www.anandtech.com/.../showdoc.aspx?i=2795

Bit Tech - http://www.bit-tech.net/h...uo_processors/1.html

ByteSector - http://www.bytesector.com...s-article.asp?id=661

Chile Hardware - http://www.chilehardware....=hardware_...iews&am

Club IC - http://www.clubic.com/art...lace-intel...re-2-du

Computer Base - http://www.computerbase.d.../test_inte...ore_2_e

Digit Life - http://www.digit-life.com...core2-duo-e6600.html

Extreme Tech - http://www.extremetech.co...,1697,1989036,00.asp

Firing Squad - http://www.firingsquad.co..._core_2_performance/

GD Hardware - http://www.gdhardware.com.../X6800_E6700/001.htm

GotFrag - http://hardware.gotfrag.com/portal/story/33492/

Guru3D - http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=185555

HardOCP - http://enthusiast.hardocp...LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

Hardware Secrets - http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/348

HardwareZone - http://www.hardwarezone.c...ew.php?cid=2&id=1980

Hardware.fr - http://www.hardware.fr/ar...o-p965-vs-i975x.html

Hexus - http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=6184

Hot Hardware - http://www.hothardware.co...?articleid=845&cid=1

Legion Hardware - http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=569

Legit Reviews - http://www.legitreviews.com/article/362/1/

MadBox PC - http://www.madboxpc.com/contenido.php?id=2394

Mad Shrimps - http://www.madshrimps.be/...tarticle&articID=470

Maximo PC - http://www.maximopc.org/a..._review_parte_1.html

NeoSeeker - http://www.neoseeker.com/...iews/core2duo_e6700/

OCAU - http://www.overclockers.c...rticle.php?id=489587

OC Workbench - http://www.ocworkbench.co...ntel/core2duo/g1.htm

PC Perspective - http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=272

Phoronix - http://www.phoronix.com/s...ticle&i &num=1

Planet X64 - http://www.planetx64.com/...sk=view& =283&a

Sharky Extreme - http://www.sharkyextreme..../article.php/3620036

Sim HQ - http://www.simhq.com/_tec...technology_090a.html

Tech Report - http://techreport.com/rev...3/core2/index.x?pg=1

Tom's Hardware - http://www.tomshardware.c...nocks_out_athlon_64/

Trusted Reviews - http://www.trustedreviews...rticle.aspx?art=3161

TweakTown - http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/923/

Xbit Labs - http://www.xbitlabs.com/a.../core2duo-e6300.html

;)

Bearclaw
07-28-06, 07:50 PM
If your looking to upgrade and already have the motherboard for the AMD chip then go with that. If you are either willing to spend the money for a whole new conroe upgrade or building a new system from scratch then go with conroe.

Venous
07-28-06, 08:12 PM
i didnt understand why everyone is so thrilled bout conroe, i want to buy a new pc, grr that w8in is killing mme@>!

Bearclaw
07-28-06, 08:19 PM
You aren't going to buy a store bought one are you? I hope you mean building your own. :D Will you be using conroe?

JJW
07-28-06, 10:06 PM
Hi guys,

I'm also confused on which is better AMD or Intel dual core.

I need to build a complete system for under $1000.

Can you guys please suggest Which CPU, Motherboard, and Graphics card I should get?

Any help would be great.

Thanks.:D

Bearclaw
07-29-06, 01:11 AM
If you are going to build a system from scratch go with Intel Core 2 Duo. Do not go with Pentium D, Pentium 4 or any of Intel's old chips.

Are you going to be gaming on it or other things mainly and light gaming?
Building a whole system from scratch with monitor and everything might be tough to do with a Intel Core Duo right now (It would certainly be easier with an old AMD Athlon 64 3000, 3200, etc.). Their prices have dropped so much lately, it would make it easier to build a full system. It really all depends, It doesn't matter whether you get Conroe or AMD. AMD wpuld certainly be cheaper right now, so if you want to stay under 1000, then you might want to go with that. You could use that for a while and then wait for prices to drop in a year or so.

I would say go with Conroe hands down, however, with the massive price cuts lately you can obtain a good AMD Athlon 64 3000, 3200, etc. starting at 79 USD! (I'm also not sure where your from so prices, shipping price, etc would be different for different coutries depending on the place ordered from.)

JJW
07-29-06, 02:16 AM
Thanks for the reply guys, esp. to BearClaw :)

I do light gaming including World of Warcraft so what would you suggest that I get now? I'm in CA. And for that $1000 I'm only allocating it to the chip, motherboard, graphics card and case. Can it be done with a decent system? I already brought a new Flat panel monitor so I don't need to include that in the price.

How do you like your current system? I just need some input on what brand and type to buy. I can put together a computer but really really really bad at picking out the parts. :(

nV`andrew
07-29-06, 02:36 AM
well if u are going to do only light gaming or occasionally playing newer games as well i think maybe AMD would be the best route. really if u are buying a pre-made comp, just pick whatever's cheaper as long as they are both pretty equal in the other specs besides the processor.

nekrosoft13
07-29-06, 08:40 AM
conroe for about 330 bucks, its faster then a 1000 dollar fx-60, how the hell is that better for gaming?

if you gonna get a new computer now, stick with conroe, amd is finished for few years (at least 2), then the tables might change again

Bearclaw
07-29-06, 01:26 PM
Thanks for the reply guys, esp. to BearClaw :)

I do light gaming including World of Warcraft so what would you suggest that I get now? I'm in CA. And for that $1000 I'm only allocating it to the chip, motherboard, graphics card and case. Can it be done with a decent system? I already brought a new Flat panel monitor so I don't need to include that in the price.

How do you like your current system? I just need some input on what brand and type to buy. I can put together a computer but really really really bad at picking out the parts. :(

Wow, 1,000 just for the CPU, Motherboard, Video Card, and case? This can be done a lot easier now. Forget what I said in my earlier post up above haha. I'll help you pick out an AMD based system and a Conroe system and you can go from there. I would definitley go with conroe now. It is the way to go although I have the AMD Athlon 64 3200+ and I am very happy with it. I can overclock it to 2.6Ghz and it can run any game for me currently. Although, with you budget being 1,000 for just those core components then go dual core with an X2.

Conroe System
The conroe is the way most people would go but in the end it's up to you. Choose what you want, AMD or Conroe. Although Conroe would be the preferred choice, them being the faster procesors on the market right now.

CPU: Intel Core 2 e6700
Tigerdirect for $599 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2280511&CatId=2396)
Newegg does not have it but tigerdirect does but it is OEM and way overpriced(for just an OEM CPU). I would go with that one though, considering your budget. If the budget was less I would go a step or 2 down but this is the highest one without going into the extreme core 2.

Motherboard: Intel D975XBXLKR Intel Socket 775 ATX Motherboard($250 from tigerdirect (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1766877&Sku=I69-2121))
A good motherboard. Ther are lots of more choices though but they don't hit market until August at least.

VIdeo Card: eVGA 256-P2-N583-AR Geforce 7900GT ($290 from newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130032))
This card will be fine until G80 comes out. And Like I say below, you could always spend a lot less on a lower video card and wait for G80. I chose a different card form the AMD set-up because the CPU for AMD cost a lot less so you could allocate more towards the video card.

Case: There are lots of case, and many people have different opinions. Look around on newegg. Lian-Li is popular along wiht many other brands. It's up to you and what you like, whether it is a easy simple looking case or one with a 250mm fan (I have that and it cools great:D )

AMD System (Socket 939)
I chose socket 939 just because. You could always go AM2 also.

CPU: AMD Athlon X2 3800+ $250 From Newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103562) The 3800+ is so cheap right now, I wouldn't pass it up and that way you can spend more on the 7950 video card. It's not the fastest but it will be fine.

Motherboard: ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe Socket ($166 on Sale right now from newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131568))
One of the best boards from ASUS. It's nice and has the heat copper piping.

VIdeo Card: eVGA 01G-P2-N592-AX Geforce 7950GX2 ($550 from newegg after rebate (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130023))
The fastest(single) card out there. Although, you could pull back on the card and get a cheaper one and wait for G80 to come out. Then you could allocate more money towards a faster CPU.

Case: There are lots of case, and many people have different opinions. Look around on newegg. Lian-Li is popular along wiht many other brands. It's up to you and what you like, whether it is a easy simple looking case or one with a 250mm fan (I have that and it cools great:D )


This is just 2 random systems I put together for you and there are so many options and things you could change, ecspecially wiht you budget. You could take away from this a certain item and allocate more money towards another item. It's up to you but there are 2 basic AMD/Conroe system set-ups.

ViN86
07-29-06, 01:55 PM
conroe for about 330 bucks, its faster then a 1000 dollar fx-60, how the hell is that better for gaming?

if you gonna get a new computer now, stick with conroe, amd is finished for few years (at least 2), then the tables might change again
:werd:

lee63
07-29-06, 01:57 PM
Conroe FTW :D

Mr_LoL
07-29-06, 02:16 PM
Yeah i will have to agree with conroe. An overclocked e6300 is faster than an fx60. I am not sure about the numbers when the AA and Af are cranked up though.

Bearclaw
07-29-06, 02:28 PM
Yeah i will have to agree with conroe. An overclocked e6300 is faster than an fx60. I am not sure about the numbers when the AA and Af are cranked up though.

I would definitley have to agree with going with conroe. However, if he wants to save on the CPU and go all out with a video card(s) and motheboard, etc then AMD might be the way to go. Other than that, he should definitley go for conroe.

JJW
07-30-06, 07:05 PM
Thanks a lot Bearclaw :thumbsup:

Loved the systems you set up for me.

Now I can really start to shop around with the parts you suggested :D

Bearclaw
07-30-06, 09:14 PM
Thanks a lot Bearclaw :thumbsup:

Loved the systems you set up for me.

Now I can really start to shop around with the parts you suggested :D

Ya no problem. Keep in mind that those are just to get you started. You cna go so many ways. It all depends if you want to spend 500 on a Video card, 100 on a processor and 100 on motherboard, or however it works out. Either way, AMD or Conore, will work out great. I bought a low end AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (When it was 180..damn, should of waited haha) and I have a 7600 GT KO and it works great on games. Sure, I don't get the highest fps like jaKup or someone else (haha) but it works good for me. Good Luck with your parts buying and if you need more help, just keep posting on nvnews! :D