First AMD 65nm pics?

[nemecb]

Apparently, according to this:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=108884

Not that big a deal though since this is just a die shrink of K8 for now.

[Schugy]

It's a big deal for AMD: More dies/wafer, cheap processors and maybe higher clockspeeds :-)

[a12ctic]

It's a big deal for AMD: More dies/wafer, cheap processors and maybe higher clockspeeds :-)
exactly, the a64 might not be able to beat the conroe clock for clock, but a 3.6ghz a64 flagship could tear that 2.9ghz intel EE conroe apart ;)

[Schugy]

It will take months to get such a conroe. Dell, HP, FujitsuSiemens etc. will get the few available processors first.
85% of the Intel-Prozessors will be Pentium D and a cheap A64 X2 AM2 will always be a good deal.

[nemecb]

It's a big deal for AMD: More dies/wafer, cheap processors and maybe higher clockspeeds :-)
True, it should lower their production costs at the very least. The speed increase remains to be seen - I can't remember, did Intel get much of a speed boost from their die shrink? I know the architectures are very different, but it still might give some clues as to what we can expect.

[Redeemed]

True, it should lower their production costs at the very least. The speed increase remains to be seen - I can't remember, did Intel get much of a speed boost from their die shrink? I know the architectures are very different, but it still might give some clues as to what we can expect.


Yeah. It was the drop to 90nm that helped resolve the heat/speed issue the P4 was having. Atleast, to my understanding it was.

As to it helping the A64s gain speed- it will, how much is hard to tell.

If you had a top of the line AM2 (lets just say the FX-62) but it was manufactured using 64nm- I'd bet you could easily hit 3.2 or even 3.4Ghz on air. But I'd be surprised if you got any higher. Now, AMD could probably push out faster chips at that die size- but from over clocking a 2.8Ghz chip to 3.6Ghz merely due to a die shrink- I doubt it'd work that way.