Rv350?

[StealthHawk]

ok, so we've heard rumors of R350's specs and release date.

now what about RV350? when is this chip due? about how fast should it be? what price range will be be in? are there any "official" specs known?

[Skuzzy]

130nm part. Release somewhere in May/June timeframe.

Speculation running rampant on this part.

I have heard it is a faster version of the R350, and then I have heard it is really designed for the mobility market with lower power consumption being the target.
Stuff seems to be all over the map on this one.

The 130nm (0.13micron) is the only thing solid I have on the part. I think the timeframe is about right though.

We can have some fun speculating though. :D

Let's see, last year ATI new they were going to be going against the NV30 and figured the R300 would not cut the mustard, so the R350 was targeted for going against the NV30.
This is why so many speculated if ATI was going to release the R350 after the NV30 flopped. But ATI already had it all done and ready to go. Low risk as it is a refresh of the R300, same drivers would work, so why not.

In setting that stage and using the mentality, the RV350 could have been a gamble part. It is ATI's first .13 part. To avoid the problem of not having a part to ship, like NVidia, they ran the R350 and RV350 design in tandem.

If you use that speculation, then the RV350 will replace the R350.

When I think about it...it really looks like ATI was heck bent on knocking NVidia off the top of the hill, with all the contengency plans they had in place.

Maybe?

[Uttar]

Sorry to contradict you Skuzzy, but that makes no sense.
The RV350 is a *value* part, as indicated by the "V" - all past ATI products using a "V" were value, thus sub-$200

So, what we pretty much know for sure:
- 0.13 micron process
- Released between R350 and R400 ( or at the same time as either of those, although in that case it's more likely at the same time as the R400 )

Now, we also know it takes little power, since the M10 is based on it.
That probably means less than 70M transistors. Probably also less than 60M.
Which would indicate its performance is pretty much between NV31 and NV34.

What we don't know, however, is clock speed.
We also don't know if it uses Aluminium, Copper or Low K. Since it's value, Low K seems out of the question. Copper, in order to use less power, might make sense... Not sure.


Uttar

[Skuzzy]

Not a problem Uttar. Was havin a bit of fun speculating. I hope I made that part clear.

Oh,..it is copper, but so is R350.

I would tend to agree it probably is for the mobility line and is a pretty simple (relatively speaking) part. Good way to get wet with 130nm design and implementation.

You have to admit,..the possibilites when you start speculating are a bit fun. :D