AMD/ATI Merger my be for the best?

[AdmiralHalsey..]

It seems that with the graphihcs chip makers and the cpu makers on the same team, that certain things like new x86 extensions that help 3d rendering, possibly even a dedicated unit on the cpu, accessable by the gpu, might be a real possibiliy, and would be a nice boost for both companies. I think by now they [AMD & Intel] are more platforms than just proc's anyway, so major hardware changes like this [that would benifit both Amd's sales in the gaming CPU adn new motherboard chipset space, but also allow ATI to have exclusive use of these CPU extensions, Bus changes, etc...] shouldn't be that far fetched. Why is there no news of anything like this. It seems that ATI just died, at least as a High-end 3d option?
Any thoghts on this stuff?

[Bearclaw]

It seems that with the graphihcs chip makers and the cpu makers on the same team, that certain things like new x86 extensions that help 3d rendering, possibly even a dedicated unit on the cpu, accessable by the gpu, might be a real possibiliy, and would be a nice boost for both companies. I think by now they [AMD & Intel] are more platforms than just proc's anyway, so major hardware changes like this [that would benifit both Amd's sales in the gaming CPU adn new motherboard chipset space, but also allow ATI to have exclusive use of these CPU extensions, Bus changes, etc...] shouldn't be that far fetched. Why is there no news of anything like this. It seems that ATI just died, at least as a High-end 3d option?
Any thoghts on this stuff?

I think with AMD buying ATI and with the recent news of them killing their name and using AMD's now will kill ATI. It will for sure make Nvidia stronger than it even was already.

But to what you were saying, I have to agree, I think it is a definite possibility for that stuff. Nothing is impossible. We'll just have to wait and see what comes out of this.

[a12ctic]

... ati will still be around, they will most likely be much stronger than they were before the merger, the amd name is quite known now adays and it will do wonders for ati's marketing.

[AdmiralHalsey..]

I don't know, but I hate to think Nvidia is now under NO competition. Competition breeds innovation, and Graphics hardware advances could stagnate if Nvidia [or any company] attains complete market dominance. All the things I listed are good ideas and Amd is in a better possition than intel with its new chipset division [cough, ATI, cough], in so many ways. With the Mem controller on the k8 [and k8L???] dies, leaves the chipset with lots of extra work that has never been put to use, at least by via,nvdia,or ati to this point.
I don't know, its like they just took over ATI and pulled down the shades. AMD never really talks about future products, so threads like these are all we have....sad:thumbdwn:

[shabby]

It wasnt a merger, it was a takeover. Amd can basically take what they want and close up ati's shop, but i hope and i doubt they'll do that.

[AdmiralHalsey..]

Me too man, Nvidia having market dominance, I mean COMPLETE dominance, will stagnate and hurt GPU evolution, increase prices, and other bull****. I hope AMD is going somewhere good with this.

[AdmiralHalsey..]

I was just reading some extremetech, and I remembered AMD is working on off-chip co-processors connected via the hypertransport bus. This could be what I'm looking for!!! I know it will allow server enhancing co-procs for sure, but I'm really hoping for 3d-rendering co-procs. Maybe just a huge cache chip you could plug in there. Something really innovative. Gonna keep reading, I wanna know what units [ the co-processors] are actually in developement. AMD DOES have exciting things coming, I'm sure, they're just stuck with 90nm and a slower chip. 4by4 or whatever it's called is stupid, since multithreaded apps are non-existant anyway. They better realize Intel is pulling their pants up and getting their stuff together. End speculative rant.