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RejZoR
08-09-06, 04:51 PM
So today came the ForceWare 91.45. Quad SLi targeted pack, nothing special. Except one thing... yes, you guessed it. It's Transparent AA!

You still don't belive it? Read ahead...

Test performed using ForceWare 91.45 drivers and Gainward GeForce 6600GT AGP 8x 128MB (550/1080). CS:S Piranesi map was excellent for this test.
Images are compressed with JPG at 100% quality.

Transparent AA setting in NV CP (also available in new panel)
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/3417/taaoptionie0.jpg

4x FSAA / Transparent AA OFF
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/7622/taaoffjp9.th.jpg (http://img374.imageshack.us/my.php?image=taaoffjp9.jpg)

4x FSAA / Transparent AA ON (SuperSampling)
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/7140/taaonhn3.th.jpg (http://img374.imageshack.us/my.php?image=taaonhn3.jpg)

If you're still having hard time finding differences, check these two screenshots with marked objects that require your attention...

4x FSAA / Transparent AA OFF
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/8930/taaoffmarkeddn9.th.jpg (http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=taaoffmarkeddn9.jpg)

4x FSAA / Transparent AA ON (SuperSampling)
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/5882/taaonmarkedqs6.th.jpg (http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=taaonmarkedqs6.jpg)

So bottom line, GeForce 6 series cards are indeed capable of anti-aliasing alpha textures using supersampling. Why is NVIDIA hidding this from us is beyond my understanding.
Boosting GeForce 7 sales because of this? I'm sure a lot of people with GeForce 6 will feel like this http://img331.imageshack.us/img331/6849/bananank6.gif ...
So i truly hope Transparent AA will become a standard option in all upcoming ForceWare drivers even for GeForce 6 series...

Have fun :D

Lazaredz
08-09-06, 05:04 PM
Yeah yeah ... TAA .. got it ....

now what is up with the T&A on your screen?? Move that nVidia stuff so we can see!!!!

RejZoR
08-09-06, 05:06 PM
Sorry but i'm having hard time understanding what you want to say...

grey_1
08-09-06, 05:14 PM
Nice difference, thanks for posting the pics RejZoR. I may have to try these on my 7800's.

RejZoR
08-09-06, 05:24 PM
Actually GeForce 7 series support this feature by default :P
But yes, it looks sweet. I liked it a lot on my former Radeon 9600 Pro (Adaptive AA). And now i can also enjoy it on my 6600GT :)

saturnotaku
08-09-06, 05:35 PM
Where did you get the modded .inf?

Edit: Nevermind, I bet you got them from Guru3D. But they don't modify them for laptop GPUs. Gotta wait for laptopvideo2go to post theirs.

grey_1
08-09-06, 05:37 PM
Actually GeForce 7 series support this feature by default :P
But yes, it looks sweet. I liked it a lot on my former Radeon 9600 Pro (Adaptive AA). And now i can also enjoy it on my 6600GT :)

Maybe my drivers, 85.96, but I see no difference with TAA. I think I'll give these a go.

grey_1
08-09-06, 05:37 PM
Where did you get the modded .inf?

http://www.tweaksrus.com/

They were on it pretty quick I guess.

rewt
08-09-06, 05:39 PM
Indeed it works finally. GeForce6 was always capable of doing some sort of TAA. I think NVIDIA delayed it because they wanted more people to upgrade to GeForce7.

RejZoR
08-09-06, 05:42 PM
Btw, also post link to your picture for some more comparison screenshots...
Also any chance for TAA settings to find way into your tweak tool (NVTray) ?

Lazaredz
08-09-06, 05:55 PM
Sorry but i'm having hard time understanding what you want to say...

Sorry, what I meant was:

Thanks for the information. It looks good.

However I am more interested in your desktop picture behind the nvidia control panel. Post up a picture of HER!

Lazaredz
08-09-06, 05:56 PM
http://www.tweaksrus.com/

They were on it pretty quick I guess.

I'm going to wait till they XG this set, but it is looking GOOD!

agentkay
08-09-06, 06:04 PM
Wasn´t there already a way to activate TAA in OpenGL with Rivatuner and a beta driver? I can remember when people were talking about this over a year ago and it was basically around the time when OpenGL was updated to 2.0.

grey_1
08-09-06, 06:05 PM
I'm going to wait till they XG this set, but it is looking GOOD!

They be tweaked! Off to test.

RejZoR
08-09-06, 06:09 PM
Wasn´t there already a way to activate TAA in OpenGL with Rivatuner and a beta driver? I can remember when people were talking about this over a year ago and it was basically around the time when OpenGL was updated to 2.0.

Well, this one is API independent.

agentkay
08-09-06, 06:25 PM
Well, this one is API independent.

Good news. What kind of performance penality did you notice compared to the "old" AA method?

hemmy
08-09-06, 06:53 PM
I notice none using it but he plays CS:Source while i play the good version of counter-strike aka 1.6 which is not too demanding :o

Grechie
08-10-06, 04:28 AM
I just installed that modified set of the 91.45's, and used supersampling on my 6600GT AGP, all i gotta say is, NOOIIIICEEEEEEEEEEE ;)

T.h.o.m.a.s.
08-10-06, 05:32 AM
i dont see why enabling it on a 6600 , they are just half a 6800 =) crippleware
any quality will come at a serious performance hit

RejZoR
08-10-06, 06:08 AM
Thats where you're seriously wrong... Cripleware? 6600GT is far from some weak crap... Actually this crippleware is actually faster than vanilla 6800...

ArturNOW
08-10-06, 06:28 AM
hehe there was no question :P

hemmy
08-10-06, 07:48 AM
Thats where you're seriously wrong... Cripleware? 6600GT is far from some weak crap... Actually this crippleware is actually faster than vanilla 6800...

not quite ;)

EverGreen
08-10-06, 08:12 AM
Just tested them and they even working with my amazing Giga-Ass AGP 6800 GT card, even we are happy now and a few trembling FPS more...
(nana2)

Lazaredz
08-10-06, 08:37 AM
Just tested them and they even working with my amazing Giga-Ass AGP 6800 GT card, even we are happy now and a few trembling FPS more...
(nana2)

Okay, I was thinking it was just me.

I did a quick run on FEAR and actually saw a slight INCREASE in frame rates (about 10%). Now I don't have my old numbers to do a hard comparison but I SWEAR I saw a fps increase WITH TSAA on!

Either way, it looks great and I'm not noticing a loss so ......

Grechie
08-10-06, 12:07 PM
ive lost sweet F1_1CK all performance with this feature on, i love it!