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02-13-03, 07:04 PM
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/CWIHP/BULLETINS/b4a13.htm

Efim Slavsky and Kirill Moskalenko, as deputies to the
Congress, had arrived by plane on the day of the test to observe the
explosion. They were aboard an Il-14 “crate” at a distance of
several hundred kilometers from ground zero, when a fantastic
scene appeared before them; one participant in the test saw a bright
flash through dark goggles and felt the effects of a thermal pulse
even at a distance of 270 km. In districts hundreds of kilometers
from ground zero, wooden houses were destroyed, and stone ones
lost their roofs, windows and doors; and radio communications were
interrupted for almost one hour. At the time of the blast, the bomb’s
designers and test supervisors, headed by Major General Nikolai
Pavlov, the Chairman of the State Commission, were at the airfield
near Olenya station on the Kola Peninsula. For 40 minutes they had
no firm information on the test, or the fate of the bomber and the
Tu-16 “Badger” airborne laboratory accompanying it. Only when
radio contact with Novaya Zemlya was reestablished were they able
to request information on the altitude of the cloud. It was clear that
the bomb design had worked


It would be insightful to read this article ( a bit long). It made me wonder that much worse ( powerful) maybe still around ... :(

intercede007
02-13-03, 07:12 PM
Uhh..OK? What's so earth shattering about that?

Sazar
02-13-03, 07:23 PM
you want to know about the effects of an A or H bomb? just watch terminator 2... the platinum edition with the extended nuclear holocaust scenes...


nuff said..

Shinri Hikari
02-14-03, 08:25 PM
The best use of one is deterance, and I know much of what any determined civilian can know about the Bomb. Actual use is wrong unless someone else used it on you, hence deterance(WW2 is the only exception). If there is something I hate, it revisionism, Example: second guessing WW2. What is PAST, is over, end of story. What we learn is key. To attempt to change history is FOLLY. Whitewashing and bashing is pointless.

UDawg
02-14-03, 09:55 PM
Shinri Hikari, you do know the reason why they revise our history don't you? They do it to justify thier hatred of the U.S. now and they hate us because of our form of goernment and the sucess it has brought us. Now they will not admit to it but that is the basic reason for this hate.


BTW I do support nuclear weapons but only if we have more than the other side. If you don't like it....tough but I do have a solution for you. Move here to the United States and become a citizen and you can be on the side with the biggest and badest military in the world, WITH BIG FRIKIN' NUKES. I am dead serious about this.

ALobpreis
02-14-03, 10:41 PM
Yeah, we all like nukes and weapons, as long as they are on our side, right? :rolleyes:
if x != me => x can be killed
???????

t6_shadow
02-14-03, 11:53 PM
No one wins in nuclear war. Everyone dies. The nukes the US has was a deterrant for Russia and vise versa. However if a nuke gets into terrorist hand they can blow up whatever the **** they want and we will have to go hunting for them. This is exactly what bush is trying to stop no one seems to care tho. Shrug.

Oh and btw from what I hear gas air bombs do the same amount of damage as the nukes that were dropped back in WW2. Only they produce no fallout or radiation only mass destruction. I would hope they would use mass amounts of these before nukes.

Shinri Hikari
02-15-03, 12:16 AM
I would rather be irradiated than poisoned by gas. There is at least a chance that if I knew that I was irradiated I could take an antidote for the radiation, but gas can be any type and the antidote for each type of gas is either hard to find or expensive. And yes there is a pill that fights the affects of radiation.

Shinri Hikari
02-15-03, 12:28 AM
And revisionist history is not limited to the US... I am discusted with anyone who tries to twist history to their whim. I try to state history as I know the FACTS to be, and I am always looking for new information that I can prove is FACTUAL.:cool: I am human and I know of no living human that is perfect, that said I do my best to get my facts straight. If I see some group or nation doing something wrong, I state that I disaprove with no reservations on what I know. If I see someone misrepresenting truth, I will let them know it.:rant:

Shinri Hikari
02-15-03, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by t6_shadow
...However if a nuke gets into terrorist hand they can blow up whatever the **** they want and we will have to go hunting for them. This is exactly what bush is trying to stop no one seems to care tho. Shrug...
I could not agree more, and it pains me that others don't understand this.:( :eek: