R350 and RV350 Shots

[volt]

Appears very legit to me :)
RV350: .13u / No external power / AGP4x
R350: .15u / External power / AGP8x

Here you go:

http://www.nullnetwork.com/nv/Rx350.jpg

[CherryPopper]

where did ya get find these at Volt? They look pretty legit to me as well. Im seriously thinking about choosing the R350 as my next card... im definately feeling the upgrading urge these days :D

[Evildeus]

Here :)

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4366

[volt]

Originally posted by Evildeus
Here :)

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4366

It actually wasn't beyond3d :)

[CherryPopper]

thanx there Evildeus... i guess Volt wants to keep his sources secret..:p

[Skuzzy]

Uh,..is the one on the left green? I thought all ATI reference designs were red?

[volt]

Looks quite finished to me. Maybe the 'value' card will have green PCB :)

[-=DVS=-]

Originally posted by volt
Looks quite finished to me. Maybe the 'value' card will have green PCB :)

Maybe they just ran out of Red paint :rolleyes: at the moment :p

[digitalwanderer]

Hmmmm....those look suspicously like the cards that ATI is currently exibiting at the London show and keeping everyone under NDA about. :hmm:


Of course, I can't talk about it... ;)

[Lezmaka]

Why would RV350 only be 4x agp? Sure, 8x doesn't have any real benefit right now, but since this'll be a value part, wouldn't an AGP 8x stamp help get more oems, etc?

[gokickrocks]

Originally posted by Lezmaka
Why would RV350 only be 4x agp? Sure, 8x doesn't have any real benefit right now, but since this'll be a value part, wouldn't an AGP 8x stamp help get more oems, etc?

it may have something to do with the m10 (their notebook gpu) which is going to use the rv350 and IIRC there are no agp 8x in notebooks

[Lezmaka]

If that's what ATI was thinking, that makes sense, but it doesn't mean if a chip supports 8x then it wont work in a laptop. The ti 4200 go is based on NV28, which is nothing more than NV25 with 8x support added.

[volt]

Could be cheaper to produce 2.0 compliant version :)

[LORD-eX-Bu]

Great find Volt! Wow, I can't wait to get one of those in my rig:D

[Joe DeFuria]

The RV350 certainly is AGP 8X.

The RV350 (at least, that specific board) is not keyed for 3.3V operation, meaning it won't work in AGP 2X boards. It will work in AGP 4X and 8X boards only.

[Raptorman]

Arghh, and I just got an Area-51m with a Radeon 9000. I wonder if the video card is upgradeable in it? Even though it works very well, I'm a performance freak.

[tazdevl]

Right there with you.

Anyone know if the OEM's change the socket design for mobile chipsets?

External power is screened in though.

[Uttar]

I'm wondering something...

IIRC, and I could be wrong on this, a card generally got slightly more cache when there's more input. So, in the case of AGP 8X, there'd be more cache than with AGP 4X.
Could it be that a card would theorically support AGP 8X, but be made with AGP 4X in mind in order to save maybe 1M transistor?

As I said, this could be completely wrong. It's just something I've been wondering about. Anyone got an idea on this? It would make a lot of sense in the RV350's case.


Uttar

[Skuzzy]

Transistor count will not be effected by the bus speed, but power dissipation will be.

In the laptop world, I believe power consumption is a major concern, or at least a heavily hyped concern.

It makes sense to run at a slower rate for a laptop.

[MuFu]

RV350/M10 uses temp-dependent clock control. It can overclock/underclock itself based on environmental conditions and 2D/3D requirements.

That R350 board (A075, DDR-I) is going to be launched at the GDC on the 4th of March.

MuFu.

[Myrmecophagavir]

Originally posted by MuFu
That R350 board (A075, DDR-I) is going to be launched at the GDC on the 4th of March.Ah, I was hoping it would be before CeBIT. How quickly do you think they'll actually be in shops? Wouldn't it be great if they used CeBIT to announce actual retail availability? :D

Myrmy

[Lezmaka]

Originally posted by MuFu
RV350/M10 uses temp-dependent clock control. It can overclock/underclock itself based on environmental conditions and 2D/3D requirements.

MuFu.


So somewhat similar to what the nv30 has?

[MuFu]

Originally posted by Lezmaka
So somewhat similar to what the nv30 has?

Hmm... no, not really. NV30 has a base operating clockspeed; RV350 has a base operating temperature.

MuFu.