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walterman
09-09-06, 07:16 PM
... unlike buggy nForce4/5 chipsets (having problems with NIC, HDD and rebooting randomly) for AMD.

I can't use a DVB-S card in my mobo. There're people at boards reporting huge electric problems like mobo & pci cards burned :(

http://www.dvbviewer.com/en/index.php?page=manual&chapter=h&sub=h3
When installing a TechniSat PCI TV-card there are blue screens with an ASUS A8N SLI (Deluxe).

These boards have a weak power supply for PCI. Therefore powerful PCI-cards are not supported.

Redeemed
09-10-06, 01:51 AM
Prolly it will help with Crysis, but the gfx card(s) will continue being the bottleneck, if you raise the resolution/FSAA/AF a little.

Um, as of right now graphics cards have no impact of physics. If Crysis makes use of multiple cores to enable advanced physics functions- then the graphics cards wouldn't be the sole bottleneck per se. If you try playing it on an X2 3800 or even a single core CPU- then that very well could end up being the bottleneck due to the physics.

I'm pointing this out cause I'm of the opinion that the field is about to change in regards to how computers function in regards to gaming. Now, yes, the graphics cards are the main bottleneck. Come this time next year, it very well could be different. With Quad SLi, and probably Quad-CrossFire later, and now dual and quad-core cpus- that could leave some of the other hardware as the bottleneck instead.

DataMatrix
09-10-06, 04:34 AM
I can't use a DVB-S card in my mobo. There're people at boards reporting huge electric problems like mobo & pci cards burned :(

http://www.dvbviewer.com/en/index.php?page=manual&chapter=h&sub=h3

But not the A8N32 ;)

shabby
09-10-06, 09:08 PM
Intel core 2 quadro (http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/10/four_cores_on_the_rampage/) review at toms... quadro eh, where have i heard that before.

DataMatrix
09-11-06, 04:39 AM
Intel core 2 quadro (http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/10/four_cores_on_the_rampage/) review at toms... quadro eh, where have i heard that before.

UK Link: http://tomshardware.co.uk/2006/09/11/four_cores_on_the_rampage_uk/

nekrosoft13
09-11-06, 07:03 AM
Difference between "native" and "non-native", in terms of performance, is close to zero. AMD has still nothing to compete with Core 2 Duo, which is, after overclocking, 60-90% better than AMD.

Well, I am waiting 2-3 months, and will buy Intel quadcore :-) I thought I would not wait, as I cannot stand anymore my slow X2 4400+ (compared to Core 2 Duo), but I will, as I also hope NVIDIA SLI will run on Intel chipsets, giving us a very stable platform, unlike buggy nForce4/5 chipsets (having problems with NIC, HDD and rebooting randomly) for AMD.

so true, i upgraded to 4400 about 11 months ago, i will wait till around spring 07. when DDR3 should be released. I simply just don't want DDR2 now, especially when DDR3 will be released so soon.

but when times comes i will grab a quad core intel.

DCult
09-11-06, 02:11 PM
Non Native Quad Core's rape and pillage the motherboards of Native Quad Cores.

:p

Come on, guys, not even a smile? We should endorse funny posts.

Carbon Unit
09-18-06, 09:43 PM
The only advantage I have heard on the Core 2 QX6800 compared to the Core 2 Extreme X6800 is that the QX6800 is a better overclocker, other than that there wont be much of a difference buying a Kentfield if you already have a Core 2 Duo......for AMD, just adding more of the same Athlon 64 cores to a socket wont help them catch up with Intel, AMD will need a complete overhaul of there processor to compete with Intel, at this point AMD doesn't have much on the horizon except for the same architecture

slaWter
09-19-06, 11:31 AM
I think I'll wait for the cheaper normal Kentsfield. Until Q1 2007 my E6600 is fine. But only if there are good SLI overclockers... otherwise I'll buy the XE.

Redeemed
09-19-06, 04:42 PM
The only advantage I have heard on the Core 2 QX6800 compared to the Core 2 Extreme X6800 is that the QX6800 is a better overclocker, other than that there wont be much of a difference buying a Kentfield if you already have a Core 2 Duo......for AMD, just adding more of the same Athlon 64 cores to a socket wont help them catch up with Intel, AMD will need a complete overhaul of there processor to compete with Intel, at this point AMD doesn't have much on the horizon except for the same architecture

Isn't K8L supposed to be a redesign of the K8 architecture? I'm sure AMD is well aware that their current design can't compete with the Core2 architecture, and that merely adding two more cores wont help any more either.

To be honest, I don't think that K8L will be the architecture to return AMD its crown. But I do feel that K8L will significantly lessen the performance gap between the two architectures.

SH64
10-02-06, 01:32 AM
Will Intel Quad work on 965 chipsets ?

Edit : nevermind .. i searched around & seem it does.

slaWter
10-02-06, 08:06 AM
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2848

SH64
10-03-06, 07:53 AM
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2848
Interesting link thanks!
i wonder if my Abit AB9 (965) is compatible aswell .. its not mentioned there but hope it is!

superklye
10-03-06, 11:12 AM
Cha right...how many times has Intel said the previous motherboards would be compatible only to change that up at the last minute? I'd take anything they say about that with a Yugo-sized grain of salt.