R600 will consume around 250W

[grey_1]

Here is the direction for video cards. Take a peek at this. ;)

http://www.nvidia.com/page/quadroplex.html
:drooling:

4 G80's instead of the quadros....that lil rig would look awesome sitting next to my stacker :)

[Xion X2]

It could take the sun to power it and I would still buy it. :)

[Rieper]

It could take the sun to power it and I would still buy it. :)


LOL. There's one born every minute...:fanboy:

[Fotis]

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[Heinz68]

With propaganda like this you wont make many friends at NVIDIA forum.:thumbdwn: :D (nana2)

[mathew952]

I'm just gonna buy a gas generator and splice it into my PSU.... Hey al gore,
What do you think the EPA is gonna say about this.... We'll have gas framerates... the new R700... an amazing 30FPS per gallon, with gas at the low price of 10.15 per gallon.

[retsam]

dont you mean it would make the government richer since a larger part of the money you pay toward your energy use goes to them. its jsut easier to rail against the big bad evil corperations.

[Dazz]

I agree with that coment GPU are going to get faster and faster and need more power, then they will start to work with efficenty much like Intel has donw, it just has to reach that point.

[Intel17]

If the R600 will really consume 250 watts, then I'm seriously going to consider never upgrading past my 7800GS. The engineering teams over at nVidia and ATI should be designing faster chips that aren't outrageous power eaters.

This is analagous to a (game) programmer designing algorithms that are total brute force and inefficient simply because he knows that a good deal of his/her audience will be using high end Pentium 4 and Athlon 64 chips.

[Amuro]

This is going to make global warming worse.

[fellix]

Relax, PCIe will soon receive new spec for the high powered GFX of tomorrow:

PCI Express 225W/300W Graphics Card Electromechanical Specification (http://www.pcisig.com/specifications/pciexpress/review_zone)

[retsam]

Relax, PCIe will soon receive new spec for the high powered GFX of tomorrow:

PCI Express 225W/300W Graphics Card Electromechanical Specification (http://www.pcisig.com/specifications/pciexpress/review_zone)
well its only on revision draft 0.3 so we have a long way to go before we see that in production boards.

[Xion X2]

You guys need to relax. Once they cut the die size down on the GPU then it'll take care of a lot of the power issues. 65nm will greatly improve things.

I'm sure both ATi and Nvidia will be doing some sort of revision in the future along the lines that Intel did in regards to power consumption. It can only go so far.

[nutball]

You guys need to relax. Once they cut the die size down on the GPU then it'll take care of a lot of the power issues. 65nm will greatly improve things.

How so? The thing which is constraining transistor counts from both IHVs is power budget. That's what limits the size of the chips that they put out (at the high-end). If the power budget is raised what possible motive would they have for not explotiing it to its maximum? They would be risking the opposing side doing just that and them getting beaten on performance... which isn't what they want.

65nm doesn't change the situation. Yes it would make G80 smaller and consume less power (maybe, it's not guaranteed anymore), but that then just gives more scope to add more transistors.

CPUs are a bad comparison. The CPU brigade have run out of things to spend transistors on (which is why they're adding more cores). The processes that CPUs are built on are much more advanced than those that GPUs are built on.

The whole situation is just silly.

[Xion X2]

How so? ... If the power budget is raised what possible motive would they have for not explotiing it to its maximum?

For the exact reasons you're seeing on this thread, and many others on the net lately. A lot of people are wary about their power bills.

They would be risking the opposing side doing just that and them getting beaten on performance... which isn't what they want.

I wasn't suggesting they would throttle it back just to save power. I was suggesting that somewhere along the way the innovation to cut down on power consumption will take over and they'll come up with a more efficient architecture, such as Intel has with the C2D's.

Whether or not 65nm would significantly impact that, I really have no idea. I'm not an engineer; I just figured that it would since it significantly affects the power consumption of CPU's.

65nm doesn't change the situation. Yes it would make G80 smaller and consume less power (maybe, it's not guaranteed anymore), but that then just gives more scope to add more transistors.

CPUs are a bad comparison. The CPU brigade have run out of things to spend transistors on (which is why they're adding more cores). The processes that CPUs are built on are much more advanced than those that GPUs are built on.

I guess I can see where you're coming from. I hadn't thought of it in that way.

So what path do you see graphics cards taking in the future? I mean, it's only logical to assume that eventually the population will say "enough is enough," don't you think? I guess I figure it's inevitable that the path will change, since technology always does. Some genius out there (or a group of them) will innovate a branch in architecture and render most of these concerns moot.

[Redeemed]

Seems that I recall an article somewhere saying that the R600 will consume only 180 watts. I even think it was posted in this thread. That seems to be more realistic.

But in the event that this 250watt figure is true, that would be sad. And I would hope that the R600 would make good use of every watt. I'm referring to an extremely efficient use of those 250 watts. And I'm sure that ATi is well aware of people complaining about the wattage being that high. As such, they will probably do their best to make certain that R600 will make the most of each watt it consumes.

Atleast, that is how I see it. ;)

[retsam]

You guys need to relax. Once they cut the die size down on the GPU then it'll take care of a lot of the power issues. 65nm will greatly improve things.that really depends on the situation of the time..if ati is behind in speed/features they probably will want to put power concerns to the side and go for what ever it was they didnt have and put it into the 65 nm part.