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stjuart
09-21-06, 08:58 PM
I rma'd my x1800xt too new egg and i think they ran out of stock, so they might give me a refund of 299, now i have a couple of options, i have never owned nvidia card, but i do have a voodoo 4 iam using now to serf the net till i get the refund. Anyhow with that money i could get a x1900xt 512 for 297 at new egg, or should i get a 7900gt wich iam pretty sure doesnt beat this card in performance but my curiosity is getting the best of me. some advice would be nice. oh and 299 is a high as i go on the card choice.

nekrosoft13
09-21-06, 09:08 PM
i would switch, just for the drivers.

both ati and nvidia has their issues with drivers, but overall after 3 ati cards, i preffer nvidia driver.

i love the profiles, before i used to use radlinker, but having it build in is so much more convienent

crainger
09-21-06, 09:27 PM
The 7900GT will run cooler and a lot quieter and will let you go to SLi (without master cards and dongles) if you current board supports it. Otherwise the 1900 will allow HDR+AA and is faster. Especially Crossfired :)

stjuart
09-21-06, 09:32 PM
well my first card was voodoo4, then i got my new system and got a 9800pro and that card was amazing for its time, it literally obliterated nvidia, but now with my 3rd system things have hit equilibrium and its more about price than performance. but the one thing i wanted from the get go was 512mb of ram and the 7900gt only has as much as my old x1800xt and well i want to have my next card last for another year or so. the gtx cost to much or is above my 299limit but the x1900xt has 512 and is 297 but of course drivers that fix one thing and break ten other games in the process. Maybe ill upgrade to the g80 that should give me something that both current gen cards cant offer. last update, i do have sli motherboard but my price range kills that route of upgradeing.

Tikiman44
09-21-06, 09:35 PM
Switch Nvidia Ftw!

stjuart
09-21-06, 09:37 PM
put some thought into your answear and not just switch, reasons would be nice or pros and cons, like the above posters.

crainger
09-21-06, 09:38 PM
Thats our Tiki. Always shooting from the fetching hip :)

stjuart
09-21-06, 09:42 PM
The switch would of been good for me if i was going sli but right now iam a college students and these bastards at the book store sell you a book for 140 and you sell it back to them for 30 dollars, talk about rip off', and crossfire is pointless if your on budget also, although great idea, i would like both companys to just build one card thats normal sized like voodoo5 with two or 3 gpu working together, rather than these massive cards.

crainger
09-21-06, 09:51 PM
Well I guess it boils down too. Do you want nVidia's drivers and cool and quiet running. Or ATi's faster though slightly loud and hot running.

For me my entire system is cooled with passive water cooling so the nvidia card is a must. Though if I was on air in your postion I would take the ATI card. Its faster and can do HDR+AA.

Tikiman44
09-21-06, 10:01 PM
Thats our Tiki. Always shooting from the fetching hip :)

You bet I am. (nana2)

Xion X2
09-22-06, 01:04 AM
No way you should get a 7900GT over a 1900XT 512MB. No freakin' way.

The 1900 will walk all over it. Take it from someone who's seen it up close and personal and in action. The 1900 can just about keep up with my GTX, and my card outperforms the 7900GT considerably...

Go with the 1900; you won't be sorry.

SH64
09-22-06, 01:17 AM
Do you want nVidia's drivers and cool and quiet running. Or ATi's faster though slightly loud and hot running.
Though if I was on air in your postion I would take the ATI card. Its faster and can do HDR+AA.
Pretty much what he said.
if it came down between those 2 (7900GT vs X1900XT) then i'd go for the X1900 .. its faster indeed!

candle_86
09-22-06, 02:39 AM
neither, get the 7950GT

SpiffMistroII
09-22-06, 07:35 AM
^^

7950gt still dose not compare to the x1900xt.:thumbdwn:

for the price you can pick up a 1900xt these day's, it would be foolish to not get one in that price range unless you have a sli mobo and plan to sli.

just my 2 cents

and ati's drivers have been really good since 6.3 and almost perfect since 6.7

People can no longer bitch about ATI's drivers.

saturnotaku
09-22-06, 07:57 AM
People can no longer bitch about ATI's drivers.

Catalyst Control Center is a bloated piece of crap, and ATI still couldn't write an OpenGL driver to save their souls.

Looks like I just bitched about ATI's drivers. :eek:

nekrosoft13
09-22-06, 08:05 AM
Catalyst Control Center is a bloated piece of crap, and ATI still couldn't write an OpenGL driver to save their souls.

Looks like I just bitched about ATI's drivers. :eek:

bingo, i got a laptop with ati card, i can't stand ati drivers.

back to topic

it all depends from prefference

while one is slightly faster

other one is more quite, cooler and has better driver.

in the end its your choice

saturnotaku
09-22-06, 08:11 AM
One thing I can't do is complain about my old X1900's performance in D3D games. Angle-independent anisotropic filtering was nice as well. It's all a matter of preference. If you were happy with the X1900's performance, by all means, go with it again.

Stoneyguy
09-22-06, 10:18 AM
I would go with the 7900 GS and save 100 bucks. Sure you'll take a hit in performance but if money is important to you right now then the 7900 GS is the sweet spot in my opinion.

glObalist
09-22-06, 11:33 AM
I don't quite understand this "ati runs hotter and louder" and "doesn't perform well in opengl" argument...

So what?

1) Get an aftermarket cooler just like the nvidia guys
2) Count all the worthwile opengl games on the fingers of your one hand and youll be done.

grey_1
09-22-06, 12:07 PM
Catalyst Control Center is a bloated piece of crap, and ATI still couldn't write an OpenGL driver to save their souls.

Looks like I just bitched about ATI's drivers. :eek:

Don't hold back sat..tell us how you REALLY feel! :D

I've never had a 1900 series card, but because nv does better opengl, that doesn't mean the 1900's is bad, just a bit slower. My last ati card was a 9700pro and it was incredible.

Either way you go you ought to be happy with performance, and either way you may have a couple of gripes too. Good luck on your choice!

Xion X2
09-22-06, 12:23 PM
Catalyst Control Center is a bloated piece of crap, and ATI still couldn't write an OpenGL driver to save their souls.

Looks like I just bitched about ATI's drivers. :eek:

Agreed. ATi Tray Tools is a piece of work, tho. Very good software. Especially with the triple-buffering/vsync in DirectX feature.

And there have been lots of advances in OpenGL for ATi cards. They run it just about as good as Nvidia, now.

SpiffMistroII
09-22-06, 02:00 PM
Agreed. ATi Tray Tools is a piece of work, tho. Very good software. Especially with the triple-buffering/vsync in DirectX feature.

And there have been lots of advances in OpenGL for ATi cards. They run it just about as good as Nvidia, now.


EXACTLY. AS I said before, you can't bitch about their drivers. OGL performance is right up on Nvidia's ass now since the release of 6.7 and 8 and 9.

Last time I checked, ccc was not a driver.;) Tray tools is a work of art.

candle_86
09-22-06, 02:58 PM
ATI drivers suck, Nvidia drivers suck both are bloated but what are we to do, use the least bloated

john19055
09-23-06, 04:29 PM
If you are just going with one card then I would get a X1900XT over a 7900GT because it will be faster and it has better over all IQ ,but if you are wanting to go SLI in the future then I would go with a 7900GT,but the new cards are so close to comeing out ,I think I would get the X1900XT if you can get one for $299 with 512mb of memory.

Gregor976
09-24-06, 12:30 AM
The Catalyst Control Center sucks only slightly more than the "new improved" nv control panel and both are bloated pigs IMO.

If you play a lot of Oblivion, I'd get the ATI card. The ATI card is going to be faster in Crysis too. "SM3 path".

$300 to spend on a new card.... I'd wait as long as you can then get an EVGA card then shop for a step-up card in 88-89 days. :)

That said, I love my 7900GT KO SC it does 610 core without a mod. 580 core is the default core speed for this card. 450 is default 7900GT speed.

You can find the 512MB EVGA 7950GT on pricewatch.com for $299:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=322827