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Dan H
09-26-06, 02:38 AM
Is anyone out there using AGP cards?
I am looking for help to get the 7600gs AGP
version to function on an ASUS A8V-MX
motherboard with VIA chipset.

I am thinking that the VIA chipset and the Nvidia
9 series drivers are not compatible. VIA chipset
is optimized for the S3 virge grahics AGP.

I get a black screen on all 3d applications.
All 2d application work fine. I have 20amp 12volt side rails
and 650 watts power supply.

Is there an older driver that supports the 7600 GS AGP
card? I have tried 91.31 91.33 and 91.47 and all have
a black screen after the nvidia splash screen is initialized.

Interesting, as a test I used an old Geforce 3 TI 500 AGP
card with this mother board and all games worked but
worked slow. I used the original drivers that came with that card
very old. Researching 91.47 driver it also supports the geforce 3
TI 500 card. So I update the driver and guess what all 3d games
give me a black screen exactly the same problem as the 7600 gs AGP
card. So the black screen problem is not card related but driver
related.

Perhaps I need to use an ATI card with the VIA chipset/AGP
combination.

Ancient
09-26-06, 01:48 PM
Have you updated to the latest VIA chipset drivers, specifically the AGP driver?

grey_1
09-26-06, 05:16 PM
I think Ancient is right, last VIA chipset I had gave me alot of grief over the GART driver.

http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=2

Try the latest chipset 4 in 1's (sorry Hyperion now) drivers, then reinstall your nv drivers.

Dan H
09-27-06, 12:36 AM
Yes I have updated the chip set driver.
Interesting, the ASUS techs are blaming Nvida and VIA
for this problem. The Nvida techs are blaming VIA.
And VIA techs are blaming Nvidia.
In other words this problem has exsisted for a long time
is never going to get better. But thankfully the AGP
port is dead. That is why none of these companies want
to invest money into fixing this problem. Those of us
with these boards are SOL.
What I have learned from this send all this stuff back to
the place of purchase and start over from scratch.
And never again buy a VIA chipset board.
Plus PCIe video cards are cheaper and faster than their AGP
counterpart anyway and can be used in SLI mode.

Stay with intel or Nvida chip set motherboards.
Those of you with VIA chipset boards out there do
not waist your time trying to upgrade them.
Buy new stuff.

Ancient
09-27-06, 11:58 AM
I'm not sure what could be causing the problem. I hesitate to claim it's simply a VIA/NVIDIA compatibility issue because I'm running a 6800GT on a VIA chipset (ASRock 775Dual-VSTA, though it's for Intel chips and not AMD) and I have no issues at all.

Doing a little searching I've found people using ATi cards who are having trouble with this particular board as well. It appears to have a faulty AGP implementation. Your only solution is to get another motherboard.

grey_1
09-27-06, 02:11 PM
I'm not sure what could be causing the problem. I hesitate to claim it's simply a VIA/NVIDIA compatibility issue because I'm running a 6800GT on a VIA chipset (ASRock 775Dual-VSTA, though it's for Intel chips and not AMD) and I have no issues at all.

Doing a little searching I've found people using ATi cards who are having trouble with this particular board as well. It appears to have a faulty AGP implementation. Your only solution is to get another motherboard.

Yeah, I had my 9700pro at the time. Funny, I can't remember the mobo brand, *oldtimers moment hits early* :p

Dan H
09-28-06, 02:35 AM
I did get an ATI 9550 Pro AGP card to run fine on the Asus A8V-MX board as a test. We downloaded the most current driver for it.
But I sent this all back already.

Now I want to start with a new motherboard that will be expandable
to the fastest Intel CORE 2 dual core CPU's currently on the market.
I think I will start with either an overclocked Pentium D 805 CPU
or a Pentium D 945 CPU with this new mother board.
I want to be able to use SLI in the future as well.
I think I want to stay with Nvidia Nforce chip set unless there is something
else more stable.
I want to be able to build this for less than 800 dollars
(Motherboard, graphics card, ram, CPU, and CPU fan)
now with expandability in the future to the current fastest stuff out there.
I plan on upgrading later as prices fall.

So guys which motherboard can you recommend that best fits this design and is most stable and perhaps a good overclocker?
The Pentium D 805 can safely overclock to the Pentium D 945 speed but with more heat and power use.
And it only saves me about 55 dollars which I will use up on a better
CPU cooler so it may not be worth it.
So overclocking might not be that important an issue for me on the mother board.
I already have an excellent power supply
Mushkin 550 watt with 2 12 volt 20amp side rails which can load share
to a peak power use of 28 amps on one rail.

I think I will start with a BFG 7600 GT OC PCIe video.
I can buy 2 of these cheaper than one 7900 if I need
more GPU power. This setup should be able to run all my games very well
and when I get something new that requires more power well my plan
here is to be easily upgradeable in either the GPU or CPU department
to reach the needed horsepower required at that time.

So guys recommend a motherboard for me please.
Thanks for your help.

Dan H
09-28-06, 02:41 AM
Is there a way to delete a double post?

Viventis
10-03-06, 06:11 AM
A while back, there was a release of a new 4 in 1 VIA chipset driver that caused problems for a lot of people, including me. I believe they eventually pulled the drivers. I read up on the issue in the VIA driver's site forums.

Optimummind
10-08-06, 02:59 AM
Sorry to hear about your trouble. I'm just glad I'm not getting the same errors as you as I have just bought the VIA-based ASRock 775Dual-VSTA with the hopes of using a C2D proc with my old AGP card.

I installed the latest BIOS as well as the latest Hyperion driver (5.10a) and so far, cross my fingers, I'm having no problems with my 6800GT and the 91.48 driver.

Good luck in your next endeavor!