G80 pics - Talk about it here.

[RobsX2]

Forget buying schuey a beer; I'll buy him a whole Budweiser truck if that turns out to be the case.

Im sure a nice warm glass of milk would suffice:captnkill:


Sorry schuey! it was to easy! :p

[Xion X2]

Im sure a nice warm glass of milk would suffice:captnkill:


Sorry schuey! it was to easy! :p

LMAO!

[RobsX2]

And since we recently had a conversation about stability testing, I can't believe you would even bring up the power supply. My system loops the SM 3.0 tests from 3DM06 for hours on end while running two instances of folding. I have zero resets or lockups on my rig. I play a lot SS2, Prey, and Quake 4 as well as F.E.A.R. for many hours without a hitch. And guess what, there are parts in those games when the fps drop as well. It couldn't possibly be that the video card is getting overwhelmed at times......it's the almighty XTX!


Well I think we can safely assume that your psu is doing a fine job so you can eliminate that from the list. Now as for games like Prey, and Quake 4 those run even better on my system than fear does so I would expect you to naturally run those a bit better as well.

What kinda settings and FPS you getting when playing PREY?


Actually, what's pretty clever is somehow coming up with the idea that there's a virus out there that only affects F.E.A.R. during heavy firefights.


Relax schuey, your blowing it out of context. He is only implying that if you have not ran a virus or spyware scan recently that mabey you should. It is part of routine maintinance ya know and a virus does not necessarily have to target one particular program. It doesnt work that way and the fact that you would suggest that it does makes me think even more that you just might not know what your doing.

I dont want to get into a bashing each other arguement but I would like to help you out if you would allow me to. If not then just say so and I will leave you alone.

[RobsX2]

I too can post a pic of myself looking at a barrel on fire while getting 100 fps or shooting at the ceiling with a dead guy on the floor and get 85 fps. That's obviously not the problem. :rolleyes:

Then why are we even having this conversation if you can manage to do the same as XionX2 and I?

What exactly is the problem you are having? Its true that we dont get 100FPS while in a heavy firefight either but as our pics are showing you we sure as hell dont drop into the teens either while in a firefight:)

[Xion X2]

Something else that needs knowing is whether or not he's running vsync. Because if he is, and he's not running triple-buffering through DXTweaker and/or ATi Tray Tools, then that can seriously impact performance.

But "teens" still shouldn't be happening--even with double-buffering.

[RobsX2]

Thanks for the suggestion on the driver issue. I'll definetely try your suggestion and see if it helps during those heavy firefights.



Give it a shot schuey, it should help you out a good bit. Let me know after you do it and we will go from there.:)

[RobsX2]

Something else that needs knowing is whether or not he's running vsync. Because if he is, and he's not running triple-buffering through DXTweaker and/or ATi Tray Tools, then that can seriously impact performance.

But "teens" still shouldn't be happening--even with double-buffering.

Yeah I was gonna get around to that but you have to take one thing at a time as not to overwhelm a noobie with too much info at once:p

[Xion X2]

Yeah I was gonna get around to that but you have to take one thing at a time as not to overwhelm a noobie with too much info at once

True that. (pirate)

[RobsX2]

You guys don't seem to get the point that the game runs fine for me, it's just that on several instances on almost every level when there many soldiers (not one or two) and glass breaking and fire everywhere when the frames will drop significantly.



No schuey, I do get what you are saying. My machine drops in FPS as well when all that is going on but a drop for me is going from like 75fps to 42fps in the most extreme of cases. Not in the teens bro, it shouldnt be happening on your rig.

[RobsX2]

Im not talking about a video or screenshots, I'm talking about a benchmark. You hit a certain key with fraps running and it begins logging your framerate to a file. When you want to stop benchmarking, you hit the key again and it saves the results to a text file to show the total frames rendered, the min, max and average framerates.


Now I might just be taking a stab in the dark here but what the hell does this look like? It might not be a recorded bench with fraps but its still a benchmark that shows min, average, and max fps. From my experiance playing this game all the way through its pretty damn close to being 100% accurate in all aspects of the way this game plays.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6774/fearstockfi8.png

[RobsX2]

Well I gotta get to work now. I will play with you chaps later. Good day.(nana2)

[Xion X2]

^^ He's talking about hitting the benchmark record key in FRAPS which tracks your framerate and turns it into a viewable line graph. I tried doing it last night but it saved it in a BAT file that I never had any success opening. After doing a quick search on the net I found out that apparently these are a pain in the a$$ to open and by that time I was too tired to mess with it and went to bed.

But I do agree with you that FEAR's benchmark test is pretty representative of actual gameplay. It even gives you a minimum FPS, which you would think is exactly what we should be looking for.

[schuey74]

Where are you getting this "mid to high 20's" from?
This must be a joke. If one is dropping into the teens (13- 19) and you get ten more fps then it equals mid to high 20s (23 - 29). How can you not get that?

[schuey74]

True that. (pirate)
Yea, I'm the one that considers removing an IHS too "hardcore". :p

Uh-huh, I'm the noobie. :D

[schuey74]

I've got a ton of work today and tomorrow so I will do the following. This weekend I will make the sacrifice (joking!) and play through a lot of F.E.A.R. I wanted to replay it before I started Extraction Point anyways. I'll take pics to compare to the ones you guys posted in order to show that I get similar frame rates there and of course I'll take some pics where the system really gets hit. I'll probably just start a new thread in order to stop hijacking this G80 one.

Later fellas.

[Toss3]

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9320/realityredefinedbgxx5.jpg

:captnkill:
Hmm the lightening in her eye seems too bright.. Nah just messing with ya, it looks superb, and remember that that should be real-time!! (nana2) (nana2)

[Xion X2]

This must be a joke. If one is dropping into the teens (13- 19) and you get ten more fps then it equals mid to high 20s (23 - 29). How can you not get that?

*sigh*

What I am asking you is where in the hell you are getting this "23-29" FPS from in the first place. What in the hell are you comparing this # to/with?

[Xion X2]

Yea, I'm the one that considers removing an IHS too "hardcore". :p

Uh-huh, I'm the noobie. :D

What are you talking about?

[Edit: Oh, okay you're the same guy. Well, I don't think removing an IHS makes you an expert or anything. I'm a regular poster over on xtremesystems and few guys talk about doing stuff like this because it's so hardcore/risky for a processor you spent 460$ for (which I did.)]

[schuey74]

*sigh*

What I am asking you is where in the hell you are getting this "23-29" FPS from in the first place. What in the hell are you comparing this # to/with?
The ten frame boost I would get from your buddy's driver help. Get it now?

[Xion X2]

The ten frame boost I would get from your buddy's driver help. Get it now?

That still doesn't put you in the performance bracket he was talking about, though.

That's what I "don't get."

The lowest he ever stated his system dropped to was 38FPS:

Posted by RobsX2:

Back before I knew how to properly overclock this card I would play FEAR at these Video settings and stock video card and the lowest I would get would be about 38fps in Wide Wide open areas with lots of shadows and enemies, Not once have I ever seen anything less than that.

So.. again: ???

[schuey74]

What are you talking about?

[Edit: Oh, okay you're the same guy. Well, I don't think removing an IHS makes you an expert or anything. I'm a regular poster over on xtremesystems and few guys talk about doing stuff like this because it's so hardcore/risky for a processor you spent 460$ for (which I did.)]
Removing IHS' may not make me the end-all expert on PCs, but it's surely yet more proof that I'm not the noobie you want to make me out to be. And there's nothing risky about doing it on AMD processors unless one is just totally incompetent with their hands (I'm NOT saying you are).....now it takes a bit more balls for the Conroes, but pretty easy none the less.

There's people with less and more experience than me. I don't claim to be the all-wise elder, but I have been building PCs since the 486 days. I was playing around with Commodores and Apple IIc's & e's probably before you were even around. ;)

[schuey74]

That still doesn't put you in the performance bracket he was talking about, though.

That's what I "don't get."

The lowest he ever stated his system dropped to was 38FPS:



So.. again: ???
And again, that's seriously debatable since I doubt anyone knows exactly what their lowest fps ever was in a game and none of the screenshots with one or two enemies on screen did anything to prove otherwise.

Like I said, we'll compare identical (or as close as possible) screenshots towards the weekend and see what's the real deal. :)

[Xion X2]

Removing IHS' may not make me the end-all expert on PCs, but it's surely yet more proof that I'm not the noobie you want to make me out to be.

I kind of see your point here, but honestly.. what does removing an IHS have to do with knowing how to optimize your graphics card?

Not much. There are tons of overclocking gurus out there who don't know the first thing about graphics and could honestly care less. Their life is superpi.

And there's nothing risky about doing it on AMD processors unless one is just totally incompetent with their hands (I'm NOT saying you are).....now it takes a bit more balls for the Conroes, but pretty easy none the less.

I'm not talking about the process itself, but I don't like having the core exposed. Moisture in the air.. dust particles.. anything could creep in. Just don't want to take the chance.

There's people with less and more experience than me. I don't claim to be the all-wise elder

Neither do I. I'm 29, BTW, so I was at least around in the PC JR. days. I used to program on them and save to 5.25 floppies. So I have a little bit of experience. :)

[Xion X2]

Some more screens. Pictures aren't the best quality because I'm scaling down the res and image quality since I'm uploading them straight to the site. Again, the lowest my game ever dropped when in firefights was 35FPS--and this was with 5 soldiers on the screen at once. Same graphics settings as before. Everything maxed (1680x1050, 4xAA, 16xAF, physics maxed, effects maxed, lighting maxed):

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=21387&stc=1&d=1161715994
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More to follow.

[Xion X2]

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