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retsam
09-30-06, 01:58 AM
what no "this is the death of ATI" speal from athlon?

Roadhog
09-30-06, 02:10 AM
I think I will probably get Geforce 8800 GTX card, the card size judged by the pictures look like 1 inch longer than Geforce 7800 GTX card, I am glad Geforce 8800 GTX will fit in my case. :D

wont fit in mine if its that big.. :O

mullet
09-30-06, 02:21 AM
We all have to wait to see what Jakup bench's, we all know he will get one first. :D

einstein_314
09-30-06, 06:10 AM
wont fit in mine if its that big.. :O
Yeah, me too. I have about 1/2 an inch of space between my hard drives and my 7800GTXs. But I am thinking of a case upgrade...This might give me a good reason to do it.

Redeemed
09-30-06, 07:21 AM
Well, there is speculation now that the pics floating around are fake. If you look at the connectors for the water cooling, you can see the pipe for it through the plastic housing of the heatsink. That pipe doesn't pass through the heatsink, it just goes straight to the other connector. No possible way for it to benefit cooling any. I'm thinking the pics are fake. Atleast I'm now hoping that they are.

Capt. Picard
09-30-06, 07:34 AM
Does anybody want to speculate on what the price are going to be?

jolle
09-30-06, 08:13 AM
Hope they make Dual View possible in SLi, that is a major friggin problem right there IMO..

Fotis
09-30-06, 08:56 AM
Does anybody want to speculate on what the price are going to be?
600-650$ :spank:

DataMatrix
09-30-06, 09:28 AM
Hrm!

I wonder if that 1.5GHZ clock is actually the combined clock speed of the two cores (if there are two cores)

Doesn't nvidia say the 7950X2 has 1GB of Videomemory, but really it only uses 512MB

Also I hope the watercooling card comes with its own pump...if not they must really be targeting the Extreme High End!

What if... the 384bit is:
Primary Core: 256bit Memory access
Secondary Core: 128bit Memory access

Probably a bad way to put it but it's a guess.

Yup. But rumors about these new cards also imply that the they will need tons more bandwidth that the current generation. I am of the opinion that we wont need a new SLi bridge, but I do think that if video cards keep up with this current trend then come G90 or at the latest G100 we will need a revised bridge.

SLi x1
SLi x4
SLi x8
SLi x16

Heh, same as PCI-E :p

loafer87gt
09-30-06, 01:09 PM
The Inquirer just reported that Nvidia is inviting the media to Santa Clara mid October to introduce the G80, and that a November launch is expected. I can't wait. MMM, Intel BadAxe 2, Kentsfield XE, and one of these bad boys.

MUYA
09-30-06, 01:33 PM
Editors Day

Sazar
09-30-06, 01:40 PM
Editors Day

Dude, are we going to keep 2 threads for this topic? Or is a crazy Muya-is-the-man merge on the way?

:nanahump:

MUYA
09-30-06, 02:04 PM
Spread the hardware rumour wealth

slaWter
09-30-06, 03:50 PM
The Inquirer just reported that Nvidia is inviting the media to Santa Clara mid October to introduce the G80, and that a November launch is expected. I can't wait. MMM, Intel BadAxe 2, Kentsfield XE, and one of these bad boys.

Thanks for the info.

What do you mean with MMM?

Sazar
09-30-06, 04:51 PM
Fwiw, there seems to be ample space on the PCB for the components to be put closer together and the trace routes to be shortened, thereby creating a smaller card.

I honestly can't see that being the final product if it is indeed on a smaller process. There are just too many empty spaces on the board.

Nvidia did a pretty good job with the 79xx boards of cramming more stuff into the same/less space, can't imagine why the eng's won't be able to optimize this layout a bit more for space efficieny.

CaptNKILL
09-30-06, 05:35 PM
Fwiw, there seems to be ample space on the PCB for the components to be put closer together and the trace routes to be shortened, thereby creating a smaller card.

I honestly can't see that being the final product if it is indeed on a smaller process. There are just too many empty spaces on the board.

Nvidia did a pretty good job with the 79xx boards of cramming more stuff into the same/less space, can't imagine why the eng's won't be able to optimize this layout a bit more for space efficieny.
I dont know, theres a ton of empty space on the 7950GX2. Half of each PCB is empty space. :o

NoWayDude
09-30-06, 05:57 PM
Fwiw, there seems to be ample space on the PCB for the components to be put closer together and the trace routes to be shortened, thereby creating a smaller card.

I honestly can't see that being the final product if it is indeed on a smaller process. There are just too many empty spaces on the board.

Nvidia did a pretty good job with the 79xx boards of cramming more stuff into the same/less space, can't imagine why the eng's won't be able to optimize this layout a bit more for space efficieny.

I say engineering sample or dev card on those photos.
I would ask Razor1 but he is not saying anithing :)

Sazar
09-30-06, 05:58 PM
Don't own one :(

but it's feasible that the final product will be a little more manageable. I don't understand why they would make a 10 foot card, same goes for ATi, if they have that much free pcb space for their components.

Signal noise is one concern, but with a smaller process and well designed traces in the substrate, it should be fine.

Subtestube
09-30-06, 07:29 PM
Personally, and I'm probably alone in this, I'm not interested in this behemoth. What I care about are the midrange cards - hopefully one of which can be passively cooled. I really like my 7600GT performance wise, but by god is the fan on it loud.

Fingers crossed either ATi or nVidia follow Intel and AMD into higher performance _without_ generating too much more heat.

Razor1
09-30-06, 08:36 PM
I say engineering sample or dev card on those photos.
I would ask Razor1 but he is not saying anithing :)


I can't confirm these pics as engineering or dev samples, the cards I've seen are close to 10 months old and there has been been many changes since then, so these still might not be the final retail design. We will know soon though. I would say within 2 weeks alot more info will be let out.

Also just an observation, the nVIDIA symbol on the front lower right hand side of the card, is still the old logo, so I'm guessing these aren't the final reference design's.

slaWter
10-01-06, 03:29 AM
Also just an observation, the nVIDIA symbol on the front lower right hand side of the card, is still the old logo, so I'm guessing these aren't the final reference design's.

Good point!

mullet
10-01-06, 01:28 PM
I don't know why Nvidia doesn't just get with Zalman and use there HS from the get go instead of trying to make there own. I mean you take any video card and put a Zalman on it and the temps drop huge.

MrSavoy
10-01-06, 02:01 PM
I don't know why Nvidia doesn't just get with Zalman and use there HS from the get go instead of trying to make there own. I mean you take any video card and put a Zalman on it and the temps drop huge.

Very good question. I would think with the sheer numbers of cooling solutions they would need, they could strike an amicable deal with Zalman to make the coolers for a reasonable price no?

nemecb
10-01-06, 02:17 PM
Yeah, but it would probably still be more than their cheap stock cooling. And since most people won't know the difference, it becomes pretty academic.

jAkUp
10-01-06, 02:30 PM
Yeah, but it would probably still be more than their cheap stock cooling. And since most people won't know the difference, it becomes pretty academic.

yup. I don't think a Zalman design could be nearly as cost effective.

For add in partners though, a Zalman design could be something to consider. I think MSI makes a card with a Zalman cooler.