G80 pics - Talk about it here.

[mullet]

yup. I don't think a Zalman design could be nearly as cost effective.

For add in partners though, a Zalman design could be something to consider. I think MSI makes a card with a Zalman cooler.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Category=38&N=2010380048+106790717+1067920129&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=48
GIGABYTE GV-NX79T256DP is the 3rd cheapest 7900GT @ $269.99 With Quake-4 & SS-2
Think about this how many ppl would buy a Video card with a Zalman on it for more becouse they don't feel good about putting one on themselves.
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=20750&stc=1&d=1159724025

[Roadhog]

I think i see what might be signs of dual cores?

Look at what i circled.

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5159/dualrl3.jpg

[agentkay]

Yup Roadhog, I thought the same but I changed my opinion because I think the cores would be too tiny to contain 250 million transistors each, even at .80nm, and its even less likely when the 700 million transistor rumor is true.

[Roadhog]

maybe theres 1 core for the 256bit bus, and the other slightly smaller core for the 128bit bus? dunno. Also, maybe the scaleable to 1.5ghz? each core runs at 750mhz? I dunno, just throwing ideas out lol.

[walterman]

Maybe it could mean that the chip architecture is designed to scale up to 1.5 GHz without a new design (transistor count, length of the traces, ... physical parameters).

[DataMatrix]

maybe theres 1 core for the 256bit bus, and the other slightly smaller core for the 128bit bus? dunno. Also, maybe the scaleable to 1.5ghz? each core runs at 750mhz? I dunno, just throwing ideas out lol.

I also thought this, but why would it require 2x PCI-E power connectors at single-core? :)

2x PCI-E power connectors is another sign.

[SH64]

maybe theres 1 core for the 256bit bus, and the other slightly smaller core for the 128bit bus? dunno. Also, maybe the scaleable to 1.5ghz? each core runs at 750mhz? I dunno, just throwing ideas out lol.
Well some of your thoughts make sense .. maybe its a dual-core afterall ! .. i just hope if its a DC it dosent inherit the disadvantages of the SLi tech or the DC CPUs. (ex : if game is not optimized for DC GPU , it will work on single core only .. i.e. -50% performance)

[mullet]

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4442

DailyTech received its first looks at GeForce 8800 production sample today, and by the looks of it, the card is a monster: at least with regard to size and power requirements.

The GeForce 8800 comes in two flavors, which we will get into more detail about over the course of the next few days. Both cards are dual-slot PCIe cards measuring a little less than nine inches in length. The first card, the GeForce 8800GTX, is the full blown G80 experience. The GeForce 8800GTS is a cut down version of the first.

The marketing material included with the card claims NVIDIA requires at least a 450W power supply for a single GeForce 8800GTX, and 400W for the 8800GTS. Top tier vendors in Taiwan have already confirmed with DailyTech that GeForce 8800 cards in SLI mode will likely carry a power supply "recommendation" of 800W. NVIDIA's GeForce 7950GX2, currently the company's top performing video card, carries a recommendation of 400W to run the card in single-card mode.

NVIDIA is slated to launch both versions of the GeForce 8800 in November of this year. More details on the GeForce 8800 will be available later today on DailyTech.

[Redeemed]

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4442

That is the most depressing thing I've heard in a long time. Recommends 800watts for SLi??? That kind of pisses me off. If this does pan out to be true, then it seals the deal- I'll get two of those 7900GTOs and just hold out till the G80 refresh comes. As I'm betting the refresh will bring some less power hungry yet awesome performing cards to the table.

I pray this isn't true. :(

[nemecb]

I find that 800 watt recommendation a little hard to believe. Mostly because it's about double the single card requirement, which would mean that the second card for some reason needs as much power as a single card and the entire rest of the system. Besides, with the new multi-12v rail PSUs these days the two cards are on different rails anyway so unless the power supply can't provide its rated power on more than one rail at a time (which good ones should) you shouldn't actually need double the watts.

That said, the price scared me off of these. I just ordered a 7600 GT for about $115 that should almost double my performance over this 6600 GT to hold me over until G80 comes down to a more reasonable price. Fortunately it's EVGA, so if they turn out to be cheaper than I'm expecting I can always step up (assuming these actually come out in November).:)

[ArrowMk84]

At this point, I might stick with my new GX2 a while longer than I planned. If I upgrade to G80 or R600, I sure as hell won't be using SLI or Crossfire, not with these power requirements. But then again, if their rumored performance is true, I might not need SLI or CF. Since the GX2 can handle Oblivion at my native res (1920x1200) with pretty much all the eye candy turned on, a single G80 or R600 should be more than powerful enough to drive my display at its native resolution in the first generation of DX10 games (or so I hope...).

[Xion X2]

I find that 800 watt recommendation a little hard to believe. Mostly because it's about double the single card requirement, which would mean that the second card for some reason needs as much power as a single card and the entire rest of the system.

Ditto, those #'s just don't scale. It shouldn't be double the entire system output power; the card itself doesn't take up 400 watts.

Besides, with the new multi-12v rail PSUs these days the two cards are on different rails anyway so unless the power supply can't provide its rated power on more than one rail at a time (which good ones should) you shouldn't actually need double the watts.

Only problem is that we have no specs describing what kind of amperage these new monsters are going to draw. Most high-wattage PSU's have no more than 15-20A on each rail, and G80 sounds like it's going to draw more than that. I've seen many cases of PSU's crapping out when the amperage goes higher than rail-specs by refusing to pull from another rail.

The whole power issue is just a big screwed up mess right now. I'm going to stick with my single 12v rail Silverstone with its 38 amps and go single card until they get all this mess straightened out.

[nemecb]

Only problem is that we have no specs describing what kind of amperage these new monsters are going to draw. Most high-wattage PSU's have no more than 15-20A on each rail, and G80 sounds like it's going to draw more than that. I've seen many cases of PSU's crapping out when the amperage goes higher than rail-specs by refusing to pull from another rail.
True, and if they really do pull more than 20 amps there are going to be some pissed off enthusiasts who spent a lot of money on their ATX2.01 power supplies. That could be a real mess, although I could probably pick up that OCZ GameXstream that I've been coveting for cheap if all the high end people start unloading theirs.:)

[|MaguS|]

Im so stoked for the G80s now... 128 unified shaders @ 1350... mmmm

[halduemilauno]

http://uk.theinquirer.net/?article=34879
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[kam03]

True, and if they really do pull more than 20 amps there are going to be some pissed off enthusiasts who spent a lot of money on their ATX2.01 power supplies. That could be a real mess, although I could probably pick up that OCZ GameXstream that I've been coveting for cheap if all the high end people start unloading theirs.:)


This shows as 17A but total is 41A. Is this enough for g80?

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8633/psuje2.jpg

[SH64]

http://uk.theinquirer.net/?article=34879
:captnkill:
So Oct 18th is the day ?? good! now i know when is my vacation going to start :D

[Razor1]

We originally reported the GeForce 8800GTX and 8800GTS are 9" in length. The reference design for the 8800GTX is actually a little less than 11 inches.





http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4442



So the boards that we orginally saw weren't the final boards.

[ArrowMk84]

Im so stoked for the G80s now... 128 unified shaders @ 1350... mmmm

With that kind of power, only the 30"+ display guys will need SLI (unless they're really crappy shaders!). I can't wait to see what happens with this!

[nemecb]

This shows as 17A but total is 41A. Is this enough for g80?
Nobody really knows yet. DailyTech speculated on the power requirements, but nobody knows how many amps it will pull. If a 1kW PSU isn't enough then there are going to be serious problems with this card though.

So Oct 18th is the day ?? good! now i know when is my vacation going to start :D
October 18 is the day they're going to announce it, the actual launch is still mid-November though.

[|MaguS|]

With that kind of power, only the 30"+ display guys will need SLI (unless they're really crappy shaders!). I can't wait to see what happens with this!

Um anyone would be able to take advantage of the power as long as they have a 21" Widescreen or higher... with HDR+AA some games will probably be pushing it hard, Like Oblivion with highest settings and 8xAA. ;)

But yeah, Maybe now I can run 2560x1600 in most games! :D

[nemecb]

Heh, yeah and didn't Jakup post screenies with 16x AA at some point? Might be a playable setting on these things.

[halduemilauno]

http://we.pcinlife.com/thread-630584-1-1.html
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[Xion X2]

Originally Posted by kam03

This shows as 17A but total is 41A. Is this enough for g80?


17A isn't enough, so the card would need to pull off a second 12v rail to get enough amps. The question is: will it?

I'm not sure if Intel has this problem or not, but I know from experience that AMD systems have had serious trouble with power-supplies not supporting graphics systems with enough power when run on multi-rail PSU's. The reason this happens is because the rated amps for the card in some cases can exceed whatever amps are available on a single rail, and then the card is forced to pull power from another rail. Sometimes it does this, sometimes it doesn't. It's been a widespread problem for a while. In certain cases, it just slows your entire system down. In others, it causes complete power failure and random shutdowns/lockups.

If I were you and I wasn't going SLi, I would stay away from multi-rail power-supplies. Go with a strong single 12-v rail model like I have (Silverstone Zeus) or OCZ GameXstream. And be sure to get the ones that have only a single 12v rail.

[Roadhog]

17A isn't enough, so the card would need to pull off a second 12v rail to get enough amps. The question is: will it?

I'm not sure if Intel has this problem or not, but I know from experience that AMD systems have had serious trouble with power-supplies not supporting graphics systems with enough power when run on multi-rail PSU's. The reason this happens is because the rated amps for the card in some cases can exceed whatever amps are available on a single rail, and then the card is forced to pull power from another rail. Sometimes it does this, sometimes it doesn't. It's been a widespread problem for a while. In certain cases, it just slows your entire system down. In others, it causes complete power failure and random shutdowns/lockups.

If I were you and I wasn't going SLi, I would stay away from multi-rail power-supplies. Go with a strong single 12-v rail model like I have (Silverstone Zeus) or OCZ GameXstream. And be sure to get the ones that have only a single 12v rail.

the gamexstream is quad rails.