G80 pics - Talk about it here.

[borntosoul]

"G80 Benchmark posted by most reliable person ever


Conroe E6600 400*9
3D06 12xxx
3D05 19xxx"


this quote is from trumphsiao

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33576&page=46

[halduemilauno]

3DM05 / 3DM06
8800GTX 16909 / 11843
8800GTS 15233 / 10071
7950GX2 12931 / 8781
1950XTX 11866 / 7007
1950PRO 10044 / 5600
(nana2)

[CaptNKILL]

3DM05 / 3DM06
8800GTX 16909 / 11843
8800GTS 15233 / 10071
7950GX2 12931 / 8781
1950XTX 11866 / 7007
1950PRO 10044 / 5600
(nana2)
Thatd be good but not all that impressive... hardly the gigantic leap everyone is expecting. If those are real numbers I just hope its utilized better in games.

Dont get me wrong, thats fast... but considering the specs, a 30% performance increase over a GX2 isnt that much at all.

[nekrosoft13]

3DM05 / 3DM06
8800GTX 16909 / 11843
8800GTS 15233 / 10071
7950GX2 12931 / 8781
1950XTX 11866 / 7007
1950PRO 10044 / 5600
(nana2)

i was expecting more, but this will do

[Fotis]

This shows as 17A but total is 41A. Is this enough for g80?


Its actually 34A + 41A=75A in total so you'll be more than ok.

[halduemilauno]

http://www.matbe.com/actualites/14633/nvidia-geforce-8800-gtx-3dmark06/
it is french
:captnkill:

[nemecb]

And their source is The Inq...:rolleyes:

[v3rninater]

Just wondering why Nvidia would say "Don't O/C the G80" and then they have watercooling on the GTX?

I reeeeally hope I don't have to have watercooling on the GTX cause then I'll wait for R600 kthx nvidia.

[Xion X2]

I reeeeally hope I don't have to have watercooling on the GTX cause then I'll wait for R600 kthx nvidia.

Pssh. If the GTX has to be water-cooled, then I'd bet money the R600 will need it as well. Nvidia's cards tend to run cooler than ATi's.

I'd be really shocked if the R600 wouldn't burn your fingers completely off your hand under full load.

[Fotis]

Nvidia's cards tend to run cooler than ATi's.


How do you figure that?
R300 and R420 run cooler than NV30-NV40.

[Fotis]

Anyone know of any changes in the aniso implementation in G80?
G80 seems super rich in features and I hope they don't spoil it by using the same angle depentent method.

[shadow001]

If anyone knows german,this has extra info...

http://www.pcwelt.de/news/hardware/video/61081/index.html


Highlights:
700 million transistors at 90nm :eek:
575 mhz core speed and memory at 900 mhz with a 384 bit bus(86 gig/sec memory bandwith) :D
200 watts power consumption :nutkick:
650 euro's(820$ US) for the high end version at release :nutkick: :nutkick:

[CaptNKILL]

650 euro's(820$ US) for the high end version at release :nutkick: :nutkick:
No, you dont do a direct conversion for hardware pricing. Itl most likely retail for $600 at launch in the US.

[shadow001]

No, you dont do a direct conversion for hardware pricing. Itl most likely retail for $600 at launch in the US.


With no competition from the R600 for another couple of months,and a G80 GPU Die packing 700 million transistors at 90nm(Huge die in other words),with a 384 bit memory bus,wich certainly makes the cards way more expensive to build than any previous card Nvidia has ever released,i wouldn't count on it being anywhere near that price any time soon...

[CaptNKILL]

With no competition from the R600 for another couple of months,and a G80 GPU Die packing 700 million transistors at 90nm(Huge die in other words),with a 384 bit memory bus,wich certainly makes the cards way more expensive to build than any previous card Nvidia has ever released,i wouldn't count on it being anywhere near that price any time soon...
Dont worry, it will be. :p

[Daydre@m]

With no competition from the R600 for another couple of months,and a G80 GPU Die packing 700 million transistors at 90nm(Huge die in other words),with a 384 bit memory bus,wich certainly makes the cards way more expensive to build than any previous card Nvidia has ever released,i wouldn't count on it being anywhere near that price any time soon...
I hope its low , as time passed things do get cheaper though......

LOL you reminded me of 7800GTX512 , that thing was 699U$D at launch and some stores were selling one for 800U$D.... GOD 1600U$D for only 2 GPU's in SLI ....... but they were just the cherry picked cores . This is a whole new line from top to bottom so price should certainly be good enough that everyone can afford one.

[Xion X2]

How do you figure that?
R300 and R420 run cooler than NV30-NV40.

I was talking about latest cards. ATi's tendency in the last generation or two has been to stack extra features on a card that often went unused to their full potential and sacrificed temps in the process. Whether or not they'll do that in the future, who knows, but it has been the trend in recent memory.

[Fotis]

I was talking about latest cards. ATi's tendency in the last generation or two has been to stack extra features on a card that often went unused to their full potential and sacrificed temps in the process. Whether or not they'll do that in the future, who knows, but it has been the trend in recent memory.
You said "Nvidia's cards tend to run cooler than ATi's" and thats far from saying you were talking about the latest cards.Maybe you meant to say it.
Only G70 was cooler for the few last generations and thats because it has 100million trans less than Ati R5xx line.I don't think recent memory only covers the G7X gen and up.

Can you please name a few features that are unused in the R420-R5xx lines?:)

[Daydre@m]

I was talking about latest cards. ATi's tendency in the last generation or two has been to stack extra features on a card that often went unused to their full potential and sacrificed temps in the process. Whether or not they'll do that in the future, who knows, but it has been the trend in recent memory.


Oh yeah reminds me of the R4xx series ....... Nvidia implemented some features it already had ( geometric instancing in farcry ). In a way its actually good for ATI users but not good since they cant force to use the features ... ( HDR + AA , wonder how many games do that without supporting Nvidia SSAA with HDR too ) .

I hope they just work faster and get the product to final market fast with features they can implement....

PS : Just reminded me of 3DC and 3DC ++ , does any game use that except farcry :retard:

[shadow001]

I hope its low , as time passed things do get cheaper though......

LOL you reminded me of 7800GTX512 , that thing was 699U$D at launch and some stores were selling one for 800U$D.... GOD 1600U$D for only 2 GPU's in SLI ....... but they were just the cherry picked cores . This is a whole new line from top to bottom so price should certainly be good enough that everyone can afford one.


I'll just do a quick copy and paste from another forum i'm talking about it as well.




I thought so too,and it's really surprising that it packs 700 million transistors at 90 nm....Only thing that Nvidia was quoting was a GPU at roughly 500 million transistors,wich most assumed at 80nm,to keep the die size reasonable...


But 700 million transistors???...I thought i'd see a transistor budget that big once TSMC or UMC has 65 nm up and running for that sort of thing,so i wonder what would make Nvidia that concerned to make a GPU with that many transistors while still at 90nm,since it makes for a huge die,and even if yeilds are perfect,they're only getting less than half the GPU's out of the same wafer,when compared to the G71 at 301 million transistors at 90 nm...


They would really need to up the transistor count significantly for the simple reason of needing enough room for the 384 bit bus,since it also adds a lot of extra pins on the GPU package itself,and you have to route those from the GPU package to the GPU die itself....


Add the extra traces on the PCB for the memory bus,and you have the makings of a very expensive card to make,and that german site quoted 650 euro's at it's introduction(about 820$ US)...


Might be the fastest thing to ever be released from Nvidia,but at least until the R600 gets introduced in late january,Nvidia has the high end market to itself,and has no reason to sell these at more reasonable prices until then....So if people want this ASAP,they're going to pay thru the nose for it basically....



This should answer the question as to why i believe than even from technical specs alone,it will be a very expensive card to build no matter what...The fact that it'll have nearly 3 months of the high end market to itself,is just an extra bonus.

[shadow001]

You said "Nvidia's cards tend to run cooler than ATi's" and thats far from saying you were talking about the latest cards.Maybe you meant to say it.
Only G70 was cooler for the few last generations and thats because it has 100million trans less than Ati R5xx line.I don't think recent memory only covers the G7X gen and up.

Can you please name a few features that are unused in the R420-R5xx lines?:)


That texture compression tech(3DC) for normal map compression(up to 4 to 1)...:p

I believe that the R5XX series still supports that,even though the R4XX series introduced it.

[Fotis]

That texture compression tech(3DC) for normal map compression(up to 4 to 1)...:p

I believe that the R5XX series still supports that,even though the R4XX series introduced it.
3dc died with R420 and I said mention a few not one feature.:p :D

[Daydre@m]

I'll just do a quick copy and paste from another forum i'm talking about it as well.






This should answer the question as to why i believe than even from technical specs alone,it will be a very expensive card to build no matter what...The fact that it'll have nearly 3 months of the high end market to itself,is just an extra bonus.
Thanks for the info , I also had some part of it in mind that the die does get bigger on the same process scale but I am also kind of speculating/predicting i-e Nvidia wont be a fool to introduce a mainstream card which wont be affordable by people.

[Daydre@m]

LOL 3DC and .... let see ..... hmn.. sm2.0b?....... but u know they both were also kind of used by farcry and Ruby demo... Any other game anyone have in mind ?

[Xion X2]

Sheesh, some of you ATi boys are so sensitive. Just for the record, I owned an 850XT before my 7900GTX, so you can call the guard dogs off now.

I'm not splitting hairs w/ either one of you regarding temps on past generation cards. I thought that both the 1800XT (because of its higher clockspeeds) and 1900XT ran significantly hotter than their nvidia counterparts on the high-end. If you don't, that's fine. Maybe I should preclude all my statements with "In my opinion" from now on out so you two won't get your panties in a wad.

And in regards to "features implemented," hasn't it always been a party-line of the ATi camp that their IQ is so much better than nvidia's? Doesn't that supposed increased IQ come at a cost? As in extra features, possibly? As in extra-generated heat, probably?